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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
i have been a fan of ambient music, specifically brian eno, for some time. i always thought his ambient music sounded best on speakers because of the spacial and enveloping nature of the genre. on headphones it always sounded a bit out of place.. until now. i've listened to eno's ambient #4 and apollo soundtrack with my ety er6 a couple of times now, and the level of detail and atmosphere is amazing, especially with the added isolation. it makes me wonder if he used binaural or hrtf sound processing. if you're also a fan of eno (i know you're out there) you really owe it to yourself to listen to his ambient stuff on etymotics. WOW!
post #2 of 16
Thread Starter 
hmmm, no brian eno fans here? one of the things this site has taught me is that in many ways i have fairly unusual taste in music.
post #3 of 16
No, Redshifter, it's on my list to buy today based on your rec. I will let you know how I like it.

Steven
post #4 of 16
My life in the bush of ghosts........mm think I might listen to that
again now, thats good ,
do you like that one Redshifter?
post #5 of 16
It's playing now...takes me back to when I first heared it,
Not entirely sober[or straight or whatever] if you know what I
mean,1982 I think.

Nice though.
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
headwired:
my favorite eno ambient recordings are:
thursday afternoon
ambient #4: on land
Apollo: Atmospheres and Soundtracks
Music for Airports

there's also a great box set of his ambient works that includes much of the above. his ambient stuff is one of those love it or hate it things. i hope you like it!

Setmenu:
MLITBOG is one of my favorites!! i recently found the original vinyl release of it and it is AWESOME. i wont say it puts the cd to shame, but it is noticeably richer sounding. there's something about eno's work from the 70s & 80s that sounds better on vinyl. maybe it's the analog synths.

if you like eno's collaberation stuff, check out a disc by a group called "passengers". it's eno & u2, but much heavier on the eno than bono.

glad to see some eno fans here!

oh yeah, just so this doesn't get moved to the music section, if you have etymotics you really should have a listen to his stuff with them. like i said the extra isolation allows the dense textures and details of his sound to come out.

here's a detailed review of much of eno's ambient work i wrote:

Basic Brian
i also drew that picture of eno at the top.
post #7 of 16
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Originally posted by redshifter
hmmm, no brian eno fans here? one of the things this site has taught me is that in many ways i have fairly unusual taste in music.

I am a Brian Eno fan, I have the cd "Drawn From Life" in mp3 format. I got that a year ago and I absolutely love it, it could potentially my #1 favourite. I was actually trying to find that cd today in a store while I was shopping for other cds, but I couldn't find it.

What else do you suggest for similar type of music?

BTW, do you like THOMAS NEWMAN? I love the American Beauty soundtrack by Thomas Newman.
post #8 of 16
Music similar to Brian Eno? No such thing!
I'll second all of Redshifter's list but add:

Music for Films
Neroli
Thinking Music
Spinner (with Jah Wobble)
Any of the Fripp & Eno collaborations

I'll also put in a plug for Brian's brother, Roger, who has done some very interesting things.

Almost anyone Eno crosses paths with is worth exploring, Fripp, Roxy Music, David Byrne (Catherine Wheel, especially if you like My Life in the Bush of Ghosts).

I'm also a big fan of Steve Reich, who I think Eno has mentioned as an influence. (It's Gonna Rain is a unique experience with headphones).
post #9 of 16
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pepsi1,
i have drawn from life too, a good return to form for eno. byte has some good suggestions, although besides me he is the only other person i know who likes neroli. it drives some people nuts hearing the same notes over & over. but with neroli there are lots of ineresting things happening in the extremes of the frequency range: lots of ghostly harmonics and subsonic waves.

one of eno's best collaberations is with michael brook on "cobalt blue". it is a production wonder, and has some very unique and interesting music on it. it was just re-released in a double cd set with brook's live version of the same music. i HIGHLY recommend it to anyone who likes ambient.

byte,
do you have reich's "different trains" and "electric counterpoint"? the first one gives me chills. the second is pat methany playing solo guitar patterns, which get recorded as he plays, played back, and he plays a counterpoint to it. i think he gets it up to 12 lines at once--another favorite of mine. what is "thinking music" like? i noticed neroli is "thinking music part 4".
post #10 of 16
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do you have reich's "different trains" and "electric counterpoint"? the first one gives me chills. the second is pat methany playing solo guitar patterns, which get recorded as he plays, played back, and he plays a counterpoint to it. i think he gets it up to 12 lines at once--another favorite of mine
Yep, got that one. Somehow it's never quite grown on me, but I don't think I've actually listened closely enough (reminds me of Black Angels from Kronos Quartet, I hated that the first few times I listened, then somehow I "got" it and found it chillingly beautiful). Reich's favorites for me are probably Music for 18 Musicians and Drumming. Think I'll go listen to Different Trains again.

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what is "thinking music" like? i noticed neroli is "thinking music part 4".
Ooops, broke that line by accident, they're one and the same. It's very ambient, belongs in the background. It's great for listening to while working.
post #11 of 16
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for me the cathartic point in "different trains" is when the vocals and the sampled train sounds change from civilian trains in the u.s.a. to the air raid sirens and concentration camp trains in 1940 germany. it's a chilling effect. i also find the ending where the say/sing "and when she stopped singing they said 'more! more!'" touching in a strange way.
post #12 of 16
redshifter--good looking out on the Brian Eno/Ety combination. I got Apollo and Music for Film this weekend and love them both. They are going to be perfect for me. Completely takes me away. And with the Etys, when I close my eyes, the imaging seems to move way outside my head. I'm going to look into his other stuff next weekend.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
headwired,
glad you like it!
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And with the Etys, when I close my eyes, the imaging seems to move way outside my head.
i noticed this too, which is why i was wondering if it is somehow binaural. there is so much detail in his ambient stuff the etys really help pick out the layers of sound. for sure get ambient #4, or the ambient boxed set.
post #14 of 16
Redshifter, that drawing of Brian Eno looks amazing, despite its small size. Do you have any more pictures to share?
I always want to check out Eno's work, but keep forgetting to. I have a really bad memory...
post #15 of 16
I have yet to hear Brian Eno, but I am planning on checking him out once I am back in the U.S.A. I do like Windy & Carl though, which is also ambient music, and rather good. It does sound very nice on Ety's.
Stu
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