Are the military quality V-Moda Crossfade LPs the same as regular V-moda Crossfade LPs, and is...

If you have to have over ear go with the LP2 as its sound signature is less rolled off toward the mids and treble.  The Corssfade M80 and V80 are the better headphone in that they have better frequency response curves as well as cleaner square wave response and less ringing during the impulse test.  I found the M80 / V80 extremely comfortable especially after gently bending the ear pieces a bit to fit the angles of my head.

I think the LP2 goes a bit deeper into the bass region as well, but I honestly do not like either the LP or LP2.

I wasn't able to compare the LP2s to the LPs, but, x2 that M80 is a better route, even though they're on ear. They're much more controlled than the LP2s and are more neutral. The LP2s are so bass heavy and punchy, they can pretty much only be good for hip-hop and more basic electronica. I didn't really care for them. They might be better at half the cost, but I wouldn't pay retail for them.

The M80 / V80 is a far better sounding headphone and to me even at $100 the LP or LP2 is just not worth it.

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Originally Posted by nailbunny7 

Soo, you're saying at 100 dollars, the LPs might be fine, but If I was to spend 200 for a good on-ear or over-ear, what would your suggestion be for listening to hard rock/metal (and some hip-hop)?

I think the M80s would be good if you're set on V-Moda. They have enough bass (actually more than enough) for hip-hop, but it's tight enough to follow kicks and double bass in metal. The LP2's bass is too flabby for rock, I'd say. As far as other brands in the price range, my favorite closed cans are Shure SRH-840s, ATH-M50s, and pretty much all studio monitors that I've heard.

<edit> What is your price range? The P5s are $300 where as the M80s and what I said are ~$150. I would also go with HD 25-1 II as opposed to the P5. Have you seen the Adidas originals version? There's also the new Sennheiser Amperior

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Originally Posted by nailbunny7 

I was looking at spending 200 or less, but can easily be coaxed to 300 if the quality is worth it.

I've only briefly heard the HD 25-1 II's, so I don't have a very accurate assessment as to if they're worth it and the Amperiors are supposedly the same but slightly different. If portability is a factor, I would say for sure get the M80s. Studio monitors like the ATH-M50s and SRH-840s are a bit big for portable use and have rather long cables. But, if you can live with their bulkiness, around ear headphones are less finicky than on-ears imo.

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Originally Posted by nailbunny7 

Ok, I'll probably get the M80s then, but I am still intrigued by the Bowers and Wilkins P5. Did you have any experience with those?

 

I've only heard them in an Apple store a time or two. I was using their iPods, but they seemed a little boomy to me and the highs were recessed. Decent ~$100 headphone, not so great for ~$300. Not to mention the cable on the P5s is stringy compared to the M80.