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post #556 of 1319
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

I'm in the middle of reviewing all the IEMs I own.

 

Here are my impressions of the ATH-CKM50s. Let me know if I am completely off base with what you guys are hearing:

 

ATH-CKM50 Review



While the cable is too short....the length with the extension is fine.

 

I don't find them to be over bassy.....a different tip will reduce the bass so I really believe the bass response is very related and dependent on the tips used.

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I actually tried to play MW3 earlier today with the CKM50s...DO NOT ATTEMPT!

 

For single player I'm sure it's fine, but for online shooters where positional cues are vital, the small soundstage coupled with the massive amounts of bass will have you shot way before you even hear the enemy coming.
 

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How's gaming on the ckm50s, and the ckm77s guys?



 

 

post #558 of 1319
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

I actually tried to play MW3 earlier today with the CKM50s...DO NOT ATTEMPT!

 

For single player I'm sure it's fine, but for online shooters where positional cues are vital, the small soundstage coupled with the massive amounts of bass will have you shot way before you even hear the enemy coming.
 



 

 



Ouch, maybe that's not such a good thing for them, but it isn't half bad on it is it
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post #559 of 1319

I actually had quite the opposite experience. The soundstage isnt that small its ok. I was playing BF3 with Dolby Headphone from my Xonar DG and the sound was really directional, I could hear the helicopters over me and the direction of the gunshots. 
 

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Ouch, maybe that's not such a good thing for them, but it isn't half bad on it is it
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post #560 of 1319

Not to be rude but if I had the money to buy 15 iems, I'd rather spend it on other things. I appreciate what you're doing, but we have different approaches to life.
 

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I got one better for ya eke. XanderTJ. Why don't you show us one we can all enjoy for $25 then..I would like to see what you consider a great deal for $25 and do some comparisons myself..Why don't you buy 15 iems like I did to find one and then we will see how good it is compared to these CKM50s. If not then please no one here is feeling your negativity you feel me? Simply show this community better for the $25 instead of saying there is so much wrong with these CKM50s. No one forced you to get them and if you don't like them I am willing to bet you. You can sell those off easily. Don't like them, get rid of them and move on. Or return them for a refund.

 

See what I don't get is people that complain yet they don't show the community better. Man you have no idea what I had to do to find these. Everyone is entitled to what they like but if you have something better for us why don't you throw up your recommend to all of us. I will personally buy it to see if it is all that and a bag o chips. If it is I will support it 100%. I am sure you know at least a dozen right? Cuz there are so many outstanding iems that cost less than $25.

 

Everyone get ready for the XanderTJ great find thread. I can't wait.



 



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Please stop trolling! Enough already!

 

You're implying I'm trolling. Sharing my opinion =/= saying something to elicit a response.
 

 



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I haven't found them to get confused at all with busier tracks.

 

What tracks in particular are you referring to?

 

And what is your reference iem/can?

 


Every melodeath/power metal/prog metal/symphony/concerto/djent/deathcore/neo-classial song I have listened to, period.

 

I've listened to:

 

At the Gates, After the Burial, Animals as Leaders, Haunted Shores, Periphery, As Blood Runs Black, ETOS, Draconian, Insomnium, Pietro Locatelli, Yuki Kajiura's live works, Vivaldi, Joe Satriani, Dreamtheater, Symphony X, Seventh Wonder, Yngwie Malmsteen, Within the Ruins, Black Aeon Sun, Machinae Supremacy, Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Kamelot, Rhapsody of Fire, and Nightwish

 

My references are SoundMagic PL30, Klipsch Image x10, ATH-AD700

 

Source is SGS Captivate with voodoo mod, and Neutron MP. It's a bright source, which does nothing to counter react the overabundance of bass.

post #561 of 1319

Soundstage definitely isn't "small." Not even when compared to much more expensive IEMs IMO. It might not have great depth or positioning or what have you, but it certainly isn't small.

post #562 of 1319
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Originally Posted by XanderTJ View Post

Not to be rude but if I had the money to buy 15 iems, I'd rather spend it on other things. I appreciate what you're doing, but we have different approaches to life.
 



 

 

You're implying I'm trolling. Sharing my opinion =/= saying something to elicit a response.
 

 


Every melodeath/power metal/prog metal/symphony/concerto/djent/deathcore/neo-classial song I have listened to, period.

 

I've listened to:

 

At the Gates, After the Burial, Animals as Leaders, Haunted Shores, Periphery, As Blood Runs Black, ETOS, Draconian, Insomnium, Pietro Locatelli, Yuki Kajiura's live works, Vivaldi, Joe Satriani, Dreamtheater, Symphony X, Seventh Wonder, Yngwie Malmsteen, Within the Ruins, Black Aeon Sun, Machinae Supremacy, Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Kamelot, Rhapsody of Fire, and Nightwish

 

My references are SoundMagic PL30, Klipsch Image x10, ATH-AD700

 

Source is SGS Captivate with voodoo mod, and Neutron MP. It's a bright source, which does nothing to counter react the overabundance of bass.


The trolling comment was a slight joke, can't believe you just went to defend yourself so quickly. Everyone has opinions, great then, glad to hear that. However, since dsnuts is doing this for the benefit of all of us, glad you are at least respecting ds for what he does.

 

post #563 of 1319
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Soundstage definitely isn't "small." Not even when compared to much more expensive IEMs IMO. It might not have great depth or positioning or what have you, but it certainly isn't small.


The separation, imaging, and airyness are inferior to the SMPL30 which can found from $20-24 on eBay from reputable resellers. Mp4 nation also has plenty of sales that drop its price below the ckm50. The kicker? The ckm50 retails at $100-$150 and is arguably inferior to the pl30, a $30 retail phone depending on your musical tastes.

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post #564 of 1319
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The ckm50 retails at $100-$150 and is arguably inferior to the pl30, a $30 retail phone depending on your musical tastes.

The ATH-CKM50 has an MSRP of $59.95. You might find a few places that have them listed at a higher price, but I doubt they're actually selling many, if any, of them. Street price looks to be about $25 - $40. They are in no way perfect, but that's a fair price considering their performance, which is pretty good, albeit with faults.
post #565 of 1319

Pretty sure the MSRP is $80, possibly $100. $80 according to cnet and $100 according to this thread.

 

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The ATH-CKM50 has an MSRP of $59.95. You might find a few places that have them listed at a higher price, but I doubt they're actually selling many, if any, of them. Street price looks to be about $25 - $40. They are in no way perfect, but that's a fair price considering their performance, which is pretty good, albeit with faults.


 

post #566 of 1319

In any case, who cares about the MSRP? Isn't it all about the street price? We're going for real bang for the buck here....

 

Besides, I think the sound signature of the CKM50 is more then different enough then the PL30 to justify it's presence. I actually rather like how it responds to EQ(but I also don't think it's that bad by itself). Seriously, I think it's a great $25-35 dollar IEM. 

post #567 of 1319
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

Pretty sure the MSRP is $80, possibly $100. $80 according to cnet and $100 according to this thread.

According to the manufacturer, it's $59.95.
Edited by Jaywalk3r - 2/4/12 at 12:18am
post #568 of 1319
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Originally Posted by Omark12 View Post

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUU!!! Just bought got my CKM-50 so far they're pretty good. Not much of an improvement from the Isurus which I really like a lot, but this is without burn in, we'll see how it fares afterwards. But now Im reading that the CKM-33 and the Soundmagic PL30 are better than this... like wtf. I should stop jumping on Dsnut's gems and wait a few days till reviews are in. 



I think it depends on what type of sound signature you prefer.. I will say the CKM33 and the Soundmagic PL30s have a different sound signature and more similar to the isururs.. The CKM33s are very similar to the sound signature to the isurus. And for that sound signature I would say it is more of a side grade than an upgrade. Both the CKM33 and the Isurus is an upgrade from the Soundmagics PL30. Eke liked the CKM50 more than the isurus...I think the Isurus is of a similar value to the CKM50 but both are good for the types of signature they represent.

 

Just my own experience through full sized cans.. The CKM50 I mentioned that they have a sound signature of the M50s. They have a sound signature of closed cans in general. Closed cans have much bigger bass response by design and the sound of them are representative of this. Something like an isurus is more like a semi open can. Wide stage with extended highs and good solid bass. Kinda reminds me of my Samson SR850.. The CKM33 has the exact sound that is on an open can..Fully balanced with bass that is balanced with the other parts of the signature with the least amount of bass.

 

I would skip on a CKM33 and I don't see them as an actual upgrade to the isurus. If anything the isurus has better bass. The true upgrade to that sound is the CKM77 unfortunately you are gonna have to spend much more to actually get a solid upgrade.  There are similarities on the CKM77s and the isurus. But with less sharper highs while having even more detail, mids are better balanced and have a clear definition on the CKM77 vs isurus and the bass is also very defined and smooth to compliment the sound.. A finely refined isurus basically. I haven't mentioned this maybe up till now. For the guys that like the isurus sound signature.. Especially for you guys. The CKM77 is the upgrade.  The CKM50 I consider the side grade but worth having because they have a completely different sound signature.

post #569 of 1319

I bought the CKM50's after going through much of this thread. $25 seemed like a small price to pay to see what the hype was all about. All comments made are "non-audiophile" - just your average consumer who has been listening to a lot of headphones lately.

 

Initial listening

Overall: unimpressed

 

Listening directly through my macbook pro.

 

I'm really surprised that people are saying the bass is heavy as I'm definitely not getting the kind of bass I'm used to. The bass goes deep but doesn't seem strong enough. When I listen to NAS, I get almost no bass at all. The soundstage - on first listen - did seem quite wide and unexpected for headphones of this type but I doubt it would blow anyone's mind. The music so far is clear with heavy sibilance noted. 

 

Also, I get the "microphonics" effect when I touch the cord. This is a huge nuisance for me. I almost wish there was a thread that filtered out only headphones / cables that did NOT produce this effect as it is a deal-breaker for me in most cases. 

 

Anyhow, I'm still going to give it a longer listen but I wanted to get out there and share a little as well. I'm pretty happy with my purchase as it was only $25 but if it was $100 I would be thinking about returning it.

post #570 of 1319
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See this is a prime example. Thanks for your take on them simonlsays.. Many of you guys say too much bass and he says too little. Lol!. Everyone has different taste of what they all consider great in sound. Obviously you are a hiphop listener. I personally think the CKM50s are really great at hiphop.. You should try some eq . Throw on a bit more bass end and these will shine for you. 

 

Because we all have different likes in sound it is impossible to please everyone.

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