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post #9511 of 21263

Headfonia's article:

 

http://www.headfonia.com/style-and-power-vmoda-m-100/

post #9512 of 21263

Has anyone compared the M100 to the Amperior?  Methinks they may sound quite similar if one applies bass boost to the Amperior.  From Tyli's excellent datasheets:  

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserAmperior.pdf

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/VModaM100.pdf

post #9513 of 21263
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

Headfonia's article:

 

http://www.headfonia.com/style-and-power-vmoda-m-100/


Sounds like it should have been named "V-Moda LP3"

post #9514 of 21263
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post

Has anyone compared the M100 to the Amperior?  Methinks they may sound quite similar if one applies bass boost to the Amperior.  From Tyli's excellent datasheets:  

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserAmperior.pdf

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/VModaM100.pdf

I did a chart comparison:

700

 

 

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Originally Posted by JohannLiebert View Post


Sounds like it should have been named "V-Moda LP3"

That's pretty much what I've been trying to say.

M-100 vs LP

700

 

M-100 vs M-80

700

post #9515 of 21263
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

Headfonia's article:

 

http://www.headfonia.com/style-and-power-vmoda-m-100/

That doesn't sound good.

post #9516 of 21263
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Originally Posted by Emospence View Post

That doesn't sound good.

*shrugs* YMMV, if what Anakchan and Tyll have been saying, the M-100's have been very well received by a large number of people in comparison to the other new offerings out there for the past few months. They won't be for everybody, but they'll find their place for what they offer.

post #9517 of 21263
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

Headfonia's article:

 

http://www.headfonia.com/style-and-power-vmoda-m-100/

 

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Originally Posted by Emospence View Post

That doesn't sound good.


Consider the source- just one opinion and IMO doesn't represent the M-100 that I hear and enjoy every day.

post #9518 of 21263
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

 


Consider the source- just one opinion and IMO doesn't represent the M-100 that I hear and enjoy every day.

Yeah I wouldn't say the M-100's sound that bad. The one guy only compared the M-100 to the L1. OK so there's ONE good headphone that's better than the M-100 for its price, but that doesn't mean the whole review needs to bash the M-100.

 

It is interesting to see the reactions for the M-100 though. Many people were genuinely expecting a more audiophile M-80 based on the hype from this thread. Instead the M-100 ended up being a very "fun" headphone with a nearly identical frequency response to the LP.

post #9519 of 21263
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


Consider the source- just one opinion and IMO doesn't represent the M-100 that I hear and enjoy every day.

 

Well, technically two opinions, since it's a combination of two reviewers (one in italics, one not). Still....

post #9520 of 21263

The problem with that reviewer which you can easily read between the lines and conclude the reviewer lacks experience with bassier headphones and this is obviously his bassiest headphone while it exists also significantly bassier ones still. He lacks the perception of how a bassy headphone sounds and behaves like and is living in the world that ofc everything can still sound extremely detailed despite having a 8~9dB boost as compared to say 5dB or so. So yea his vision is a bit skewed and probably gives an unfair reflection over his M100, while Tyll has tried several "bassiest" headphones and has a better perception of what to expect out of a bassy headphone. That he also says the bass quality is not even that good while it measures very well (very tight & punchy) further strengthens my point. This sounds like the typical review when you put some1 to review a headphone which isn't happening to like such kind of sound signature and is therefore disappointed as it doesn't meet his personal preferences. It's a little too subjective review IMO where the reader's personal preferences gets too much weight to it. When I write a review I disregard my personal preferences and just try to describe how it sounds like compared to other headphones I've tried (=objective). Subjective is when you for example say that 9dB bass sounds bad because you happen to like 5dB of bass. People should describe the sound, not take that much stand to whether it's good or not, that's the reader's task.

 

Not trying to defend M100, just my objective observations (when it comes to sound pyschology this is my expertise that I'm interested in, I'm not nearly as interested in the technical details as the psychology behind it)


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 11/16/12 at 1:39pm
post #9521 of 21263
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Yeah I wouldn't say the M-100's sound that bad. The one guy only compared the M-100 to the L1. OK so there's ONE good headphone that's better than the M-100 for its price, but that doesn't mean the whole review needs to bash the M-100.

 

It is interesting to see the reactions for the M-100 though. Many people were genuinely expecting a more audiophile M-80 based on the hype from this thread. Instead the M-100 ended up being a very "fun" headphone with a nearly identical frequency response to the LP.

I remember back when people were asking what they'd change. Bassier response and treble extension than the M-80's. And we got that, but perhaps people were looking for more balance? mmm

post #9522 of 21263

Miceblue, any chance I can get those datas without the hard to read overlapping? I'm wondering how different these are to the LP2.

post #9523 of 21263
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Originally Posted by robble View Post

I remember back when people were asking what they'd change. Bassier response and treble extension than the M-80's. And we got that, but perhaps people were looking for more balance? mmm


I would have personally have gone for more balance, better mid response.

 

I'm wondering if I should just go for the M80's now personally, as the sound stage has never bothered me with my Senn's, but I want a headphone with a lot more detail.

Extra bass is an extra, but I feel the M100's may just be overdoing it a tad.

 

I certainly don't want to be causing damage to my ears at the levels I normally listen to, with bass as pronounced as what has been described.

post #9524 of 21263
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I did a chart comparison:

700

 

 

That's pretty much what I've been trying to say.

M-100 vs LP

700

 

M-100 vs M-80

700

Thanks for this.  I do see the similarity between all four (Amperior, LP, M80, and M100). 

 

I think the Amperior is closer to the M100 in the midrange than the other two, however.   The main difference is in the bass end.   I would not be surprised that an ample bass boost to the Amperior -- say 3dB per octave below 200Hz -- would make these two headphone sound very similar.  

post #9525 of 21263

According to that chart, the M-100 FR is extremely similar to the LP's. So LP2 is less of a basshead headphone?

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