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post #91 of 20881

 

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Well, I mean, if they sound better than the m80 and scale with an amp...I suppose nobody who could afford them would complain about that :)


Exactly, but costing 100 more than the m80 and sounding worse without an amp is what is bothering me.  Sure, if your market is only home users and you want to make the greatest headphone possible, fine, Val is allowed to do that, but that's not the headphone market that I am in.  I'm in for portable headphones that sound great without amps.

 

post #92 of 20881
Me too. That's not Head-Fi, but it is the majority of the market. I would love to see the M100s be the real Beats killer that does it on every level, including style and build quality, to show everyone how it can and should really be done. That's really what Im hoping for.
Edited by Gilly87 - 2/1/12 at 12:06pm
post #93 of 20881
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Exactly, but costing 100 more than the m80 and sounding worse without an amp is what is bothering me.  Sure, if your market is only home users and you want to make the greatest headphone possible, fine, Val is allowed to do that, but that's not the headphone market that I am in.  I'm in for portable headphones that sound great without amps.

 



Whoah...who said anything about that?  I don't think that's what is being said here at all.  I'm sure they will sound better than the M80s unamped, and then will get a little boost on top of that with an amp.

 

Again, I'll bring up the Shure 940s.  Unamped, they sound FAR superiod to the 840s.  And, then, if you decide to amp them (which I have not), they will supposedly go a bit beyond where they already are.

 

post #94 of 20881
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Me too. That's not Head-Fi, but it is the majority of the market. I would love to see the M100s be the real Beats killer that does it on every level, including style and build quality, to show everyone how it can and should really be done. That's really what Im hoping for.


You can't have a beats killer in my opinion, monster is a large company with a lot of resources and the marketing from Monster is the best I've ever seen. Not just with the beats but with everything. V-moda's aim in my opinion is and should be making quality cans no matter who they're marketed to. V-moda, instead of spending all their money on marketing so that they can sell a million to consumers unaware they might find better deals elsewhere, seem to be spending it on designing and building great cans. I commend them for that.

 

post #95 of 20881

The thing is, you already see people wearing the m80s and LPs on the streets in cities. I live in one of the bigger cities in the US, and I've already seen plenty of people with the M80s; not as many as the Beats, granted, but noticeably more common than most other brands. I saw a couple in NYC when I went there for New Years, too. I think with the M80s in places like RadioShack and BestBuy, if you give people a chance to hear the phones side by side, they will choose VMODA over Bose or Monster any day. Get BestBuy to throw an extra demo out there with the XB500s and Aviators and Beats, and the M100s will probably FLY off the shelves.

post #96 of 20881
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The thing is, you already see people wearing the m80s and LPs on the streets in cities. I live in one of the bigger cities in the US, and I've already seen plenty of people with the M80s; not as many as the Beats, granted, but noticeably more common than most other brands. I saw a couple in NYC when I went there for New Years, too. I think with the M80s in places like RadioShack and BestBuy, if you give people a chance to hear the phones side by side, they will choose VMODA over Bose or Monster any day. Get BestBuy to throw an extra demo out there with the XB500s and Aviators and Beats, and the M100s will probably FLY off the shelves.



definitely not true, most average users would take the booming bass over the relaxed accurate sound, the primary reason they would choose v-moda would depend on the music choice. 

post #97 of 20881

 

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Whoah...who said anything about that?  I don't think that's what is being said here at all.  I'm sure they will sound better than the M80s unamped, and then will get a little boost on top of that with an amp.

 

Again, I'll bring up the Shure 940s.  Unamped, they sound FAR superiod to the 840s.  And, then, if you decide to amp them (which I have not), they will supposedly go a bit beyond where they already are.

 


Actually Val said it in this very thread (or was it the M80 thread???).  Unamped M100s < M80s.  I dont feel like finding the quote, but he said it.

 


Edited by dbdynsty25 - 2/1/12 at 12:50pm
post #98 of 20881
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Actually Val said it in this very thread.  M100s < M80s.  I dont feel like finding the quote, but he said it.

 



i feel like this will be very similar to the d1001 vs the d1100   the d1001 being less bass and smaller and the d1100 being larger and bassier. Oh and the d1001 having slightly better sound quality but cheaper still, like the m-80.

post #99 of 20881

It wasn't originally in this thread but it was quoted on the first page:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/578207/v-moda-crossfade-m-80-reviews/885#post_8087569

 

Sad.

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Actually Val said it in this very thread (or was it the M80 thread???).  Unamped M100s < M80s.  I dont feel like finding the quote, but he said it.

 



 

post #100 of 20881
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It wasn't originally in this thread but it was quoted on the first page:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/578207/v-moda-crossfade-m-80-reviews/885#post_8087569

 

Sad.



 



Very interesting, and you can certainly see his dilemna.  At the same time, it sounds like a final discussion is far from being made, which means...like others have said...

 

All of this praise/criticism certainly seems premature considering the fact that he hasn't made a final decision one way or the other.

 

post #101 of 20881

I can see the dilemma, but it seems like he just needs to make 2 headphones: one that needs an amp, and one that doesn't. The "M100" name sounds like its primed to be a successor to the M80, which is a pure portable; if I was Val and I was going to make one that needed an amp, I would call it the LP2 Studio or something of the sort.

 

M100: $250ish, no amp required; M80 with bigger bass and over ear design

LP2 Studio: $300-$350, LP2 but with bigger drivers for better SQ, amp preferable

 

I'll wager Val has considered this very thing himself ;) However his more recent posts lead me to believe that he is fairly close to a final decision, and that this will not be the case.
 

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Very interesting, and you can certainly see his dilemna.  At the same time, it sounds like a final discussion is far from being made, which means...like others have said...

 

All of this praise/criticism certainly seems premature considering the fact that he hasn't made a final decision one way or the other.

 



 


Edited by Gilly87 - 2/1/12 at 1:17pm
post #102 of 20881

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

I can see the dilemma, but it seems like he just needs to make 2 headphones: one that needs an amp, and one that doesn't. The "M100" name sounds like its primed to be a successor to the M80, which is a pure portable; if I was Val and I was going to make one that needed an amp, I would call it the LP2 Studio or something of the sort.

 

M100: $250ish, no amp required; M80 with bigger bass and over ear design

LP2 Studio: $300-$350, LP2 but with bigger drivers for better SQ, amp preferable

 

I'll wager Val has considered this very thing himself ;) However his more recent posts lead me to believe that he is fairly close to a final decision, and that this will not be the case.
 


I was thinking the exact same thing! xD

Since they are both the "M" line, I would think it would be better if Val made another line for amped/at home use headphones, and keep the M line to non-amp/portable use.

Thats what I thought of when I first heard of the M100s: just like you said, a successor to the M80s

 

post #103 of 20881

:) Thank you!

 

I think that's what everyone thought, originally, whether they are OK with buying an amp/already have one, or not.
 

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I was thinking the exact same thing! xD

Since they are both the "M" line, I would think it would be better if Val made another line for amped/at home use headphones, and keep the M line to non-amp/portable use.

Thats what I thought of when I first heard of the M100s: just like you said, a successor to the M80s

 



 

post #104 of 20881

The M-100 should be the amped version if he went that approach but it's easy to say just make 2 separate headphones, not so easy to do.

 

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

I can see the dilemma, but it seems like he just needs to make 2 headphones: one that needs an amp, and one that doesn't. The "M100" name sounds like its primed to be a successor to the M80, which is a pure portable; if I was Val and I was going to make one that needed an amp, I would call it the LP2 Studio or something of the sort.

 

M100: $250ish, no amp required; M80 with bigger bass and over ear design

LP2 Studio: $300-$350, LP2 but with bigger drivers for better SQ, amp preferable

 

I'll wager Val has considered this very thing himself ;) However his more recent posts lead me to believe that he is fairly close to a final decision, and that this will not be the case.
 



 



 

post #105 of 20881

What, you think Val would be done making headphones after the M100? Gimme a break! I'm sure there's other stuff he has planned, too, but he's already making portables, so why not go ahead and make the best portable and THEN tackle the home market? Idk, makes more sense to me anyways.

 

Val can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants; I'm just putting in my .02 for a purely portable over-ear upgrade to the M80, and I think it would make sense to call it the M100 tongue.gif
 

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Edited by Gilly87 - 2/1/12 at 1:49pm
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