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Originally Posted by gauchotodd View Post

I'd just like to point out for the people who still find these uncomfortable with the XL pads that the HM5 pads do help with the comfort quite a bit. I imagine people who already find the XL pads comfy would find the HM5s pretty luxurious. My temples are particularly sensitive so I still have to take them off fairly often, but when I get some free time to try to add a suspension band, I'll update on the comfort factor. I should note that with the HM5s they no longer fold up well since it makes them noticeably larger overall since the pads stick out from the cups so much more.

 

how did you get the hm5 pads installed?

post #21857 of 21865
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Originally Posted by gauchotodd View Post

I'd just like to point out for the people who still find these uncomfortable with the XL pads that the HM5 pads do help with the comfort quite a bit. I imagine people who already find the XL pads comfy would find the HM5s pretty luxurious. My temples are particularly sensitive so I still have to take them off fairly often, but when I get some free time to try to add a suspension band, I'll update on the comfort factor. I should note that with the HM5s they no longer fold up well since it makes them noticeably larger overall since the pads stick out from the cups so much more.

Wouldn't non-OE pads change the sound signature?

post #21858 of 21865
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post

how did you get the hm5 pads installed?

It just occurred to me that most people don't remove the dust filter from the pads like I do and that this would be a necessary initial step for putting the screws back in during the last step. Then remove the original pads, unscrew the screws in the cups, pop out the driver chambers being careful not to damage the connected wires, put the ring of the HM5 pads between the two parts of the cup and hold them back together with the pad in place while you put the screws back in.
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Originally Posted by MICHAELSD View Post

Wouldn't non-OE pads change the sound signature?

Well, every pad changes the sound signature to some extent, even the XL pads from the original. But it certainly doesn't change the V-shape or warmth, and other than having a very pleasantly wider soundstage and better noise isolation, I would have to A/B a second pair in direct succession to tell any subtle changes. I should also note that for these I am using the (p)leather HM5s, but from experience the velours have a more natural and revealing signature and as such may make the mids more enjoyable. But that's both subjective and speculative without yet having tried them on the M-100 myself.
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I think they look even better too:

post #21860 of 21865
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Originally Posted by gauchotodd View Post

I think they look even better too:


Can we have a picture of the inside of the cup too? :)

post #21861 of 21865
Hopefully this slight angle helps gauge the depth a bit. As you can see, I put felt all over the inside of the cups for dampening, I think it makes a noticeable difference in the control of the tones. Unlike with the similar mod for Hifimans, though, it didn't bring out the clarity in the midrange much, if at all.

post #21862 of 21865
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Originally Posted by gauchotodd View Post

Hopefully this slight angle helps gauge the depth a bit. As you can see, I put felt all over the inside of the cups for dampening, I think it makes a noticeable difference in the control of the tones. Unlike with the similar mod for Hifimans, though, it didn't bring out the clarity in the midrange much, if at all.


do you think you can take a picture of the m100s when its collapsed?  I know you said it can't but I'm curious

post #21863 of 21865
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Originally Posted by gauchotodd View Post


It just occurred to me that most people don't remove the dust filter from the pads like I do and that this would be a necessary initial step for putting the screws back in during the last step. Then remove the original pads, unscrew the screws in the cups, pop out the driver chambers being careful not to damage the connected wires, put the ring of the HM5 pads between the two parts of the cup and hold them back together with the pad in place while you put the screws back in.
Well, every pad changes the sound signature to some extent, even the XL pads from the original. But it certainly doesn't change the V-shape or warmth, and other than having a very pleasantly wider soundstage and better noise isolation, I would have to A/B a second pair in direct succession to tell any subtle changes. I should also note that for these I am using the (p)leather HM5s, but from experience the velours have a more natural and revealing signature and as such may make the mids more enjoyable. But that's both subjective and speculative without yet having tried them on the M-100 myself.


I am noticing a significant widening of soundstage going to the XL pad, and yes, the bass isn't as pronounced with these pads. The performance of M-100 with the XL pad has been absolutely outstanding, and I find myself keeping EQ off when on the go, while turning it on for room listening.

The comfort level boost of these thicker pads have been a matter of night and day. I will never go back to the stock pads ever again.

post #21864 of 21865
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Originally Posted by panzerfan View Post


I am noticing a significant widening of soundstage going to the XL pad, and yes, the bass isn't as pronounced with these pads. The performance of M-100 with the XL pad has been absolutely outstanding, and I find myself keeping EQ off when on the go, while turning it on for room listening.
The comfort level boost of these thicker pads have been a matter of night and day. I will never go back to the stock pads ever again.

I've been talking about the HM5 pads, not the XL pads. The soundstage and comfort with the HM5s is very significantly improved over that of the XL pads, which in turn are improved over the stock pads.
post #21865 of 21865
Here they are collapsed as best I could get them. I couldn't get both sides to fold in completely, and the pads squish together at the top by the headband. Maybe others could find better success with more bending of the headband, but as is I don't care to keep them folded in so as to preserve the pads.

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