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Originally Posted by plakat View Post
 

 

Actually I'd say its the other way round: the sound of an electric guitar (or any instrument thats not strictly acoustic) is always an interpretation done by electronics and therefore influenced by how they postprocess sound. An acoustic instrument (or voice for that matter) can be heard in reality so to say, it *does* have a definitive master version (though it is often used as an instrument in the sense that the voice is postprocessed as well, be it the choice of microphone or the effects applied).

 

As the saying goes: "nobody has ever heard a synthesizer" -- but only whats coming out of the speaker at last. So I think a realistic reproduction of voices is one of the most complicated feats to accomplish in audio: we're all used to hear voices (no, not *those* voices in your head ;-) and are therefore very well-versed in differentiation of natural vs. artificial sounding voices.

 

And No: the M-100 does not present natural sounding voices. Its a fun headphone with respectable sound quality, therefore the question to ask is not "how realistic are they?" but more "do I like their coloration?" So, while I can't comment on the M50, which I've never heard, I think, the Focal Spirit Pro or the HP50 are much more natural sounding than the M100. Thats what the first two are built for, and they do it quite well. The latter is for fun, enjoying music -- if you like its take on music that is.


With electric guitars the reference is how the guitar amplifier sounds in person in the room coming from the cabinet. Everything between the speaker cone in the guitar cabinet and the AD converters affects the sound, but in the end the goal is to capture what it sounds like in person sitting right in front of it.

The second point of reference is how the guitar sounded coming from the studio monitors which is where you first hear the result of everything in the chain that is trying to capture the sound of the amp in person. 

I feel like the M50s just can't reproduce really complex sounds compared to the M100. It's missing a lot of detail and transients and sounds ugly overall.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the M50s are like a polyester sweater and the M100s are like a pair of silk underwear.  
 

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To me, when I've compared M50X and V-M100, I feel M100 has a slightly smaller stage than M50X, thus I could slightly hear more details on the 50X than the M100. And, also the M100 is more warm, making it a little more muddy, but still good on the details while compared to M50X.  

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Buy the CoilPro cable for the M100, the quality is given a good push forward smily_headphones1.gif


Speaking about cables: anyone managed to find 3 button iDevices compatible cable for M100?
I have one for sale smily_headphones1.gif
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Speaking about cables: anyone managed to find 3 button iDevices compatible cable for M100?

The Beats and B&O H6 iDevice audio cables work with the M-100.

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What would be the chance of getting a defective pair? Because I want to order some from this seller called LCDstore on amazon and he is selling new M100s for $240usd. So have they fixed the problems now because i've heard that the speaker can blow out after 3-5 months so yeh im kinda worried about this but if all the problems have been fixed im good, let me know your experiences please smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by HardstyleLoco96 View Post

What would be the chance of getting a defective pair? Because I want to order some from this seller called LCDstore on amazon and he is selling new M100s for $240usd. So have they fixed the problems now because i've heard that the speaker can blow out after 3-5 months so yeh im kinda worried about this but if all the problems have been fixed im good, let me know your experiences please smily_headphones1.gif


Chance of a defective pair is fairly slim.
Its' been 3 months since I got my M100's. Mine blew out because I played it at 130db.

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Too loud haha, idk about the seller he has good reviews but then i saw some reviews saying that the beats by dre he was selling were fake, i asked him about the V moda he said they are authentic, brand new and un open but now im kinda on the edge about him, so should i just buy like new M100s or go for the risk? Or do u know any other websites where they sell M100s for a low price? Because if i buy the M100s from him they come about 290 AUD with the XL pads I just dont know if to believe him or not :/
Edited by HardstyleLoco96 - 6/7/14 at 11:23pm
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Chance of a defective pair is fairly slim.

Its' been 3 months since I got my M100's. Mine blew out because I played it at 130db.

I hope this wasn't on your ears when you did this eek.gif and if so for only the briefest of moments!! Still, you could cause permanent damage very, very quickly at 130db. Recommended maximum time for 110-120db is for 30 seconds to avoid hearing loss.

Decibels are on a logarithmic scale so 100db sounds twice as loud as 90db. 130db is like a gunshot in your ear. Besides what can drive the M-100 to 130db!
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Off topic question, I recently received some m100's through the mail from amazon (might have to return them because it came with some paint chipped off near the hinges), they are honestly amazing!! But found them to be somewhat a little too bass heavy at times with some songs. I mostly use my m100's with an iPhone, iPad or computer. With all that said, going to the EQ setting on the iPad or iPhone and setting it to "Bass Reducer" I found that it helped immensely with the issue that I had with the bass. Now I have some Sennheiser Momentums (over ear model) on the way and wanted to know how the M100's(with the bass reducer setting applied) compare to the Sennheiser Momentums. I also wanted to know if the M100's become more of an audiophile headphone when you reduce the bass. Keep in mind that these questions might sound dumb and that's mostly because I'm new to the audiophile community lol.

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Decibels are on a logarithmic scale so 100db sounds twice as loud as 90db. 130db is like a gunshot in your ear. Besides what can drive the M-100 to 130db!

Only partially correct, a 3dB difference is twice the Power. But yea there is no reason to drive the M-100s that high... as Val likes to preach (and rightfully so) hearing loss hearing loss hearing loss. 100 dB for 15 minutes can cause loss. 

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Originally Posted by jdenn View Post
 

Only partially correct, a 3dB difference is twice the Power. But yea there is no reason to drive the M-100s that high... as Val likes to preach (and rightfully so) hearing loss hearing loss hearing loss. 100 dB for 15 minutes can cause loss. 

 

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I hope this wasn't on your ears when you did this eek.gif and if so for only the briefest of moments!! Still, you could cause permanent damage very, very quickly at 130db. Recommended maximum time for 110-120db is for 30 seconds to avoid hearing loss.

Decibels are on a logarithmic scale so 100db sounds twice as loud as 90db. 130db is like a gunshot in your ear. Besides what can drive the M-100 to 130db!



To answer both your questions, I wouldn't know if it's exactly 130db, 120db, or 110db. Obviously I wouldn't want to burst my ears with mids and highs, but the bass is what blew them out. I set everything as low as possible after 150hz, and everything to the max less than 150hz. I used an ODAC/O2 to amp them to the point that when I left the headphones on the desk while playing EDM, they started vibrating on the desk. 

The drivers didn't exactly blow out, but according to one of the guys from V-Moda, one of the solders became loose and thus was the consequence of the left driver producing less bass than the right.

V-Moda was awesome enough to repair them for free and send them back with next day shipping :D

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..wow o.o I see you like to live on the edge smily_headphones1.gif
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..wow o.o I see you like to live on the edge smily_headphones1.gif

Well they were a lot harder to pop than dr dre studios, I can tell you that ;D

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Anyone wanna know how I previously popped the drivers of the V-Moda M100's? Well you can simulate this too! Except I can recommend the volume that's "safe" to play the M100's without popping them just yet!
1. Get Foobar 2000 and download the Real Bass Exciter DSP
2. Get the 31 band EQ
3. Get the ODAC/O2 (If you want to play it the same volume as me anyhow)
3. Plug in yer M100's!
4. Download this Song (It's legal!)
5. On your Windows Speakers Properties for the Odac, go to Enhancements, check bass boost and Apply.
6. On the Real Bass Exciter settings:
Threshold frequency 1200Hz
Harmonic Frequency 40Hz
Harmonic Bandwidth 200Hz
Harmonic Energy 0db
Above Pre-Wave Decay 0db
Below Pre-Wave Decay 0db
7. On the 31 band Graphic Equalizer
Slide 20hz to 100hz all the way to +12
120hz-200hz at 0
250hz-20k to -12
8. Use High gain on the O2 amp
9. Turn the volume to the max on the O2 amp
10. Set windows volume to 0
11. Play song
12. Increase windows volume to 70, stay under 50 if you want to stay safe. I am not responsible for damages done to drivers or hearing loss.

Edit: I just did this... I think I'm partially deaf for tonight.

 

 

Are you trying to pop them?  

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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post
 

 

 

Are you trying to pop them?  



You see, I'm not a bass head, my primary headphones being ER4S and Q701's, but sometimes I get that sudden itch for that deep head rumbling bass sometimes.  This itch can sometimes get a bit extremely hard to satisfy ;D

So no, I'm not trying to pop them. I just happen to pop them in the process of playback :)

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