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post #20296 of 22858
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Originally Posted by SpiderNhan View Post
 

If you don't want a pair of V-MODA headphones for a few years, then yes. Other than the name and a few sentences about them from Val, there is no information about them other then conceptually. Just enjoy the now, man.

Part of me agrees, part of me doesn't.

 

Unless you like what you've heard about the M100's or the XS' - wait for it.

 

I personally found the comfort and sound signature of both to be a bit lacking, but I can tell V-MODA is on the right track. I have high hopes for the Revolver, however far away it may be. 

post #20297 of 22858
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Originally Posted by RJxx01 View Post

so i should wait for it?
I think you should buy the xs for now and hold out for the Revolver. Since the xs is on ear and you'll have both types of headphones when the Revolver comes out. Plus, you can't beat the price tag on the xs. For all that they give, it's one of the most worth the money headphones ever. Hope this helps.
post #20298 of 22858

I'm a bit torn between using the XL pads and using the stock pads.


XL pads. Sounds more like the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros.

 

Pros: More sub bass, better seal, better comfort
Cons: Doesn't sound good on the bus. The lower mids are recessed, leaving shouty mids, obviously the sub-bass is lost as well due to vibrations

Stock pads. Sounds more like the Audio Technica A900X.
Pros: Better all rounders, better mids, more portable
Cons: Less sub-bass

I wish I could get good sub bass, with good isolation and non-shouty mids with the XL pads :(

post #20299 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post

I'm a bit torn between using the XL pads and using the stock pads.


XL pads. Sounds more like the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros.

Pros: More sub bass, better seal, better comfort

Cons: Doesn't sound good on the bus. The lower mids are recessed, leaving shouty mids, obviously the sub-bass is lost as well due to vibrations


Stock pads. Sounds more like the Audio Technica A900X.

Pros: Better all rounders, better mids, more portable

Cons: Less sub-bass


I wish I could get good sub bass, with good isolation and non-shouty mids with the XL pads frown.gif
The XL Memory Cushions were tuned to keep the M-100 sound signature as close to the original pads as possible. If there are any changes it would be very subtle.

When I changed to the XL's I got this:
1) more comfortable (my ears do not touch the inner part of the pads or the headphone drivers)
2) better bass quality and texture, quantity is about the same
3) better soundstage (slightly wider and deeper) could be because the headphone drivers are further away from my ears
4) smoother transition from bass to mids (less V more U but still FUN!)

The mids are less recessed (more forward). All of the above are very small subtle changes. Maybe your expectations of the XL pads have colored your perception of whatever changes actually occurred.

I do NOT think changing to the XL Memory Cushions will cause the mids to change from non-shouty to shouty. Or maybe you were playing something shouty like heavy metal, punk or industrial.
post #20300 of 22858
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Originally Posted by thx1000 View Post


The XL Memory Cushions were tuned to keep the M-100 sound signature as close to the original pads as possible. If there are any changes it would be very subtle.

When I changed to the XL's I got this:
1) more comfortable (my ears do not touch the inner part of the pads or the headphone drivers)
2) better bass quality and texture, quantity is about the same
3) better soundstage (slightly wider and deeper) could be because the headphone drivers are further away from my ears
4) smoother transition from bass to mids (less V more U but still FUN!)

The mids are less recessed (more forward). All of the above are very small subtle changes. Maybe your expectations of the XL pads have colored your perception of whatever changes actually occurred.

I do NOT think changing to the XL Memory Cushions will cause the mids to change from non-shouty to shouty. Or maybe you were playing something shouty like heavy metal, punk or industrial.

I'm aware that Val intended to keep the sound signature the way it is when developing the XL pads. However my head is shaped in a way that the stock pads are not making a full seal around my ears, somehow actually balancing the lower midrange (~500hz-1khz) that makes the vocals in the 1khz-2khz range more enjoyable to listen to.  Yes I've experienced what you have, the more comfort, bass improvement, soundstage and bass transition.


Maybe I just simply chose the wrong pair of headphones.

 

The changes from stock to XL may be subtle to some, but to me it's a change that decides whether I would skip a song or listen to it entirely. When I ordered a second pair of stock pads, I came back to enjoying the midrange and stopped being picky of just choosing bassy songs. Although I'm just frustrated because when I fit on the XL pads, the way my music sounds actually relates more to the M100's frequency response chart instead of just a portable ATH-A900X. So overall I'm just stuck deciding whether these M100's should be a portable bassy can or an enjoyable portable can.

I might just be ranting.. :rolleyes: 

post #20301 of 22858
I couldn't hear any real difference when I switched to XL's, other than wearability. Surely judicious use of EQ could counter any perceived changes?
post #20302 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I couldn't hear any real difference when I switched to XL's, other than wearability. Surely judicious use of EQ could counter any perceived changes?



I wish that were the case, although my M100's came back from repairs not so long ago. So I haven't EQ'd anything to prevent another breakdown. Rant over, I think I'll just try and enjoy my M100's fitted with XL pads.

post #20303 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post

I'm aware that Val intended to keep the sound signature the way it is when developing the XL pads. However my head is shaped in a way that the stock pads are not making a full seal around my ears, somehow actually balancing the lower midrange (~500hz-1khz) that makes the vocals in the 1khz-2khz range more enjoyable to listen to.  Yes I've experienced what you have, the more comfort, bass improvement, soundstage and bass transition.


Maybe I just simply chose the wrong pair of headphones.

The changes from stock to XL may be subtle to some, but to me it's a change that decides whether I would skip a song or listen to it entirely. When I ordered a second pair of stock pads, I came back to enjoying the midrange and stopped being picky of just choosing bassy songs. Although I'm just frustrated because when I fit on the XL pads, the way my music sounds actually relates more to the M100's frequency response chart instead of just a portable ATH-A900X. So overall I'm just stuck deciding whether these M100's should be a portable bassy can or an enjoyable portable can.


I might just be ranting.. rolleyes.gif  
Sorry you felt the need to rant. I apologize for not being aware of your special shaped head and it's effect on the fit and the sound. Like Val says, "the fit is the sound." I'm still trying to imagine what that shape is...


I listened to "Hana no Iro" on my M-100 with XL pads and I found the song shouty. Tried my X1 and it sounded nice and smooth, very enjoyable. Tried my SE530 and ER4S and it sounded shouty.

I would recommend that you use the stock pads because you would enjoy your music better.

The 2nd verse of Hana no Iro:
"kudaranai RU-RU kara hamidasezu ni naiteita
boyake sugita mirai chizu
surihetta KOKORO wo umetakute
atsumeta iranai MONO bakari

I easily cried because of these worthless rules
which blurred my future outlook…
I wanted to fill my worn out heart,
so I only gathered useless things."

Whether or not you bought the wrong headphones, that's for you to decide. I love my M-100 with XL pads. I also love my X1 which made Hana no Iro sound way better.
post #20304 of 22858
My XL pads are shipped. Ordered them on the 11th of April.
post #20305 of 22858

does anyone know how much will i pay for taxes, brokerage fee or import charger to ship it in BC, Canada via usps? coz i really want that custom shield without paying extra. Or do you think i could save more if i bought m100's on headphonebar w/c is located near my place then order the shield, cable and xl pads separately on vmodas website?

post #20306 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Th3Guardian698 View Post
 

I ordered them last Tuesday, June 11th with standard shipping to Canada ($21), I thought I might have to pay customs since it was crossing the border but it wasn’t even customs fee. I’ve already emailed V-moda and I’m not opening them unless I get reimbursed a little, if anything I’m just going to send them back. Really disappointed, I was really looking forward to using them.

how much did you pay after taxes and other fees?

post #20307 of 22858
If I recall by the time I was done with customs and brokerage fees it was near or just over $500. I'm not going to lie, I still enjoy the headphones. However I didn't plan on spending and additional $200 for nothing. And by no means are these worth that kind of money.
post #20308 of 22858

thx for responding. so ill go and get them then at headphonebar. which would only cost me like $370 after tax with boompro. :))

post #20309 of 22858
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Originally Posted by RJxx01 View Post

thx for responding. so ill go and get them then at headphonebar. which would only cost me like $370 after tax with boompro. smily_headphones1.gif)

Well i live in toronto , not bc but still in canads paid for priority so $40 it said 6-10 days i got it in the 6 th day. No sagging in customs when i was tracking it. No problems but i got lucky i guess, i was impatient so i got priority but that sucks $200 for customs? Wth why?? 500$ sorry too rich for my blood, what happened after
post #20310 of 22858
Trust me $500 was too rich for my blood also, however there was nothing I could do really. I could have refused the upstairs delivery but I still wanted the headphones, and If I chose to send the headphones back after I signed for them I was still out $200 in customs and brokerage fees.
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