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post #19561 of 23002
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

^^^^ 

Swapping the pads is such a ridiculously intimidating process the first time. 

That's what everybody says eh? I'm not expecting my pads to arrive for another week and I can't remember ever buying a product that both excited me and filled me with dread at the same time.

I hope V-Moda have learned something from this problem and if in future products there's a need for the user to modify the product they will have designed-in an easy method.

They'll need to be clever though as the obvious way won't work with V-Moda's penchant for style. Simple circular cups are best since they facilitate the use of a bayonet mount, but there's no denying how stylish the signature V-Moda diamond shape is.
post #19562 of 23002
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

^^^^ 

Swapping the pads is such a ridiculously intimidating process the first time. 
If you follow miceblues tutorial it is extremely easy. I changed them both out in about a minute no joke.
post #19563 of 23002
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I can't remember ever owning headphones that didn't benefit to some extent from burn-in. I tend to use my M-100's as portables so that clamping pressure turns into a bonus. I've never owned more secure headphones.

i agree they are very secure in terms of the clamping force

 

but i wish the headband (the underside had the same material on the monster diamond tears and or the beats solo) that gummy gripping thing instead of the fabric mesh

 

especially because these are also dj cans they need them to be secure over the head ( i was putting them a bit farther back than usual, cause i styled my hair and i didn't want the m100s to ruin my hair) and while the earpads clamped tightly the headband felt like it was about to slide off. 

 

this isn't a huge deal but just saying thats one the qualities i thought monster/beats executed well is that gummy grippy surface

post #19564 of 23002
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post

this isn't a huge deal but just saying thats one the qualities i thought monster/beats executed well is that gummy grippy surface

Yuck. I mean, yuck. Synthetic leather is bad enough on my scalp but gummy, sticky? Do. Not. Want.
post #19565 of 23002
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Originally Posted by indieman View Post

Has anyone done a balanced mod on these? It would be cool to leave one side normal and have the other with a balanced input.
I have no idea what these connections are. I'm assuming red is right, blue is left, and orange is ground. I took apart the right earcup.






That dust is pretty disgusting. XD
Edited by miceblue - 3/23/14 at 5:04pm
post #19566 of 23002
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I have no idea what these connections are. I'm assuming red is right, orange is left, and blue is ground.






That dust is pretty disgusting. XD

Oh man! Rather you than me.
post #19567 of 23002
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Originally Posted by ratinox View Post


Yuck. I mean, yuck. Synthetic leather is bad enough on my scalp but gummy, sticky? Do. Not. Want.

you should go check them out before hating on them cause its beats 

 

IF you have hair than the vmoda m100s headband slides really easy off (sans considering clamping force--> which should loosen over time)

 

the surface is not really sticky per say it just adheres to hair just enough that it doesn't literallly pull your hair out but grips it enough that some headbanging does not move the headphones

 

the m100 headband s i find right now shuffles when i headbang (which is pretty much often cause they sound so fun) but the earpads are whats gripping my head really.

 

anyways since beats solos are so widely available (like in apple stores, or best buy, which i'm pretty sure you gonna walk into one the next 3-4 months) just pick it up and check out the underside of the headband. not asking you to actually listen the solos. unless you one of the those people that won't be even caught seen with beats headphones.

 

just sayin, keep an open mind

post #19568 of 23002
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post


That's what everybody says eh? I'm not expecting my pads to arrive for another week and I can't remember ever buying a product that both excited me and filled me with dread at the same time.

I hope V-Moda have learned something from this problem and if in future products there's a need for the user to modify the product they will have designed-in an easy method.

They'll need to be clever though as the obvious way won't work with V-Moda's penchant for style. Simple circular cups are best since they facilitate the use of a bayonet mount, but there's no denying how stylish the signature V-Moda diamond shape is.

 

Here's the main thing: the stock pads are hard as hell to pop out the first time because (I guess) they shipped installed and settled there. Once you get 'em out the first time it's a snap, probably since the flat surface that the hooks hold onto has been gently softened. 

 

I have to admit it's the biggest flaw on the M100s. You can swap out the earpads and the shields, but it's a PITA in both cases. 

post #19569 of 23002
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I have no idea what these connections are. I'm assuming red is right, blue is left, and orange is ground. I took apart the right earcup.

[XD
Wow awesome! Thanks for taking those detailed pics!
The "fabric" covered cable goes through the headband to the other driver correct?
post #19570 of 23002
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I have no idea what these connections are. I'm assuming red is right, orange is left, and blue is ground.

You can see a red wire and an orange wire connected to one of the driver terminals. That's negative and positive for that channel. If that's a "P" on the damping material then the red lead is probably the positive lead. I'd need to see the other driver (and probably get in there with a mult-tester to be sure) but it appears that red is used as the common return with orange leads for the left and right channels. The blue lead is... well... I'm not sure. It doesn't appear to go anywhere.
post #19571 of 23002
I am by no means an expert on headphone wiring. I'm just barely delving into it. From my understanding unbalanced or single ended headphones share a common ground for both drivers. I'm not sure if the reddish colored wire is ground since it goes to both cups? That would be my guess. For an unbalanced mod there would need to be another ground wire. I could/probably be completely wrong though...
post #19572 of 23002
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I have no idea what these connections are. I'm assuming red is right, blue is left, and orange is ground. I took apart the right earcup.

[XD
Wow awesome! Thanks for taking those detailed pics!
The "fabric" covered cable goes through the headband to the other driver correct?
I think so, yeah.

I took apart the left driver and it looks the same. Red and orange wires from the driver to the PCB, red/orange/blue wires to the PCB from the braided cable. I'm guessing blue is the common ground.
post #19573 of 23002
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post

you should go check them out before hating on them cause its beats

I'm not hating because they're Beats. I'm hating because I have no hair. I've sported a "Telly Savalas" for years. So when I say "pleather on scalp is yuck" I mean it literally.
post #19574 of 23002
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Originally Posted by ratinox View Post

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I have no idea what these connections are. I'm assuming red is right, orange is left, and blue is ground.

You can see a red wire and an orange wire connected to one of the driver terminals. That's negative and positive for that channel. If that's a "P" on the damping material then the red lead is probably the positive lead. I'd need to see the other driver (and probably get in there with a mult-tester to be sure) but it appears that red is used as the common return with orange leads for the left and right channels. The blue lead is... well... I'm not sure. It doesn't appear to go anywhere.
Oh that's a "P"? I thought it was an 8. XD

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/balancedheadphones/one.html


I'm not sure what the blue wire is then.
post #19575 of 23002
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I took apart the left driver and it looks the same. Red and orange wires from the driver to the PCB, red/orange/blue wires to the PCB from the braided cable. I'm guessing blue is the common ground.

Headphones and speakers don't have ground wires, common or otherwise. Single-ended headphones share the positive lead as a common return. That's probably the red wires. The shared PCB solder points supports this. The orange wires are left and right channels. I'm still not sure what the blue wire is but it doesn't appear to be attached to anything. It might simply be a leftover from 3 lead wire that's been soldered down to keep it tidy. Again, someone would have to get in there with a multi-tester to be sure.

Clarification: the common return is usually connected to the amplifier's ground so the return is sometimes called a common ground. My understanding that in car audio it really is a common ground (wiring connected directly to the chassis). Within the headphone or speaker wire loops it's just the positive lead.
Edited by ratinox - 3/23/14 at 6:03pm
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