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post #19201 of 22821
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post
 

 

You will always be gaining something, but the gains you get as the price goes up decreases.  Think of a y = a*x^0.5 graph, where the x axis is price and the y axis is performance...  It'll eventually reach infinity, but slowly does it. 

 

Great way of putting it! I agree. I think I've kinda topped out the significant gains, and from here on out... I mean, like I said, the Denons sounded great, and so did the HD800s, but frankly for my listening habits I don't see a need to spring more unless I just have money coming out my ears. 

 

My post was to hopefully let other M100 owners know where the product sits in terms of the overall spectrum and either ease some minds (if they're looking up the price chain) or pique curiosity.

post #19202 of 22821
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Originally Posted by iAmCalm View Post
 

 

What store?

 

HiDef Lifestyle in Harrisburg, PA. I was torn between there or AC Gear in NYC since I'm about halfway between and those are the only two places in the region that sell HiFiman products. Settled on HDL because I didn't feel like dealing with toll booths. :P

post #19203 of 22821
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Originally Posted by Androb View Post

How are these compared to momentums? I'm sorry if it is posted already but cba reading through all these pages ^^

Man, it's only 19,000 posts. What's wrong with you?

I think most people in this thread preferred the V-Moda's. Somewhere else there will be a similar thread where you will find the reverse. For what to worth I didn't like the Momentums. I didn't like the fit, the comfort or the sound. So I took a gamble and bought the V-Moda's sight unseen. IMO the gamble paid off. They sound great for a relatively compact closed-back portable. Some people have had fit & comfort issues with these too though, which is why the company released the XL pads. If you're ears are big you might have problems. Having said that I wouldn't have said I had particularly small ears and they find me fine. They are sallow though. It's easy for your ear to touch the filter that sits across the driver.

They sound great though and they're easy to drive too. There's no real energy to be had from amping them.
post #19204 of 22821
I finally broke down and bought a set of these today, already can't wait for them to get here.
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Just went to B&H Photo and did a side-by-side comparison of the M-100 stock pads vs. XL pads and I do notice a slight difference.

 

Stock: Bass slams a bit harder; overall sound is more intimate.

XL: Bass is slightly(very slightly, but noticeably) less impactful, and the sound gets just a pinch airier.

 

There are other variables to consider for the sound changes such as:

-Stock black pads are firmer than stock gray pads (I've confirmed this on both the Matte Black and Shadow vs. my White.)

-Acoustical differences between white earcup vs. black earcup (Val said something a while back about the White Crossfade LP measuring slightly different than the other color LP, but I haven't heard anything like that about the M-100.)

-Headband clamp (note the space between the earcups on the Shadow vs. my White.)

-Burn-in (negligible since I once had two white M-100s in my possession; one 4 months old, the other out of the box, and noticed no differences.)

-Driver variance (which Val is strictly against.)

 

I actually enjoy the stock sound more than the XL sound, but since I wear glasses the XLs are more comfortable for long-term wearing.

 

 

I also got a chance to demo the new Sennheiser HD8 DJ and while they look wicked cool, feel solid, and were relatively comfortable I found their sound to be lacking. Clarity was there, bass was nice and clean, trebles sounded accurate, but the soundstage was cramped and everything I listened to sounded bleh. Maybe it needs an amp to shine, but I honestly found the Momentums, HD 25-1 ii/Amperior, M50X(updated M50 model, who knew?) and, of course, M-100 all sounded better. For a DJ headphone it was a bit of a let down. It has more of a studio monitor sound than a DJ sound. They do isolate better than the M-100 and feel just as nice in the hands.

post #19206 of 22821
@someguydude

I had the same experience at a recent HaedFi meet. I thought the HD800's were sublime for orchestral and vocal music, but when it came to pop, metal, rap, or electronic, they totally lack any energy. At that same meet I tried the M100's and was instantly hooked. I also demoed the HD700's, some Audio technicas, the DT770's, DT13xx's, some high end Grado's, and a bunch more Im forgetting...because they were forgettable even though they're highly regarded phones on here...

I had the same experience thinking "these are 6x more than m100s, but only worth about $300 if you asked me how much I'd pay for them". The Cost/Benefit equation does not work for equipment over $300 in my book. The DX50 rocks, the M100's rock, the BH2 adds a little more punch when I want it...It would take A LOT for me to fork out any more money on audio equipment. THe only thing I might buy is a acoustic/orchestral/vocal specific headphone, but even then I cant justify much more than a couple hundred bucks.

Especially with Rockbox now ported for the DX50, you get improved EQ functionality, so that just allows me to fine tune the 100's for classical music...so that makes other phones an even harder sell...

I know this is the fanboy thread, but I think the fanboy-isim is deserved for these cans. (the DX50 too)
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I'll tell ya. If I wasn't a streaming music guy I'd love to pick up something like the DX50 or the Fiio DAP. 

post #19208 of 22821
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

I'll tell ya. If I wasn't a streaming music guy I'd love to pick up something like the DX50 or the Fiio DAP. 

I'm with ya. Got an x3 a while back and said forget it because I couldn't stream.
post #19209 of 22821
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Originally Posted by dbdynsty25 View Post


I'm with ya. Got an x3 a while back and said forget it because I couldn't stream.

 

What service you use? I've been bouncing around, currently on Google's All Access. 

post #19210 of 22821
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Originally Posted by SpiderNhan View Post
 

Just went to B&H Photo and did a side-by-side comparison of the M-100 stock pads vs. XL pads and I do notice a slight difference.

 

Stock: Bass slams a bit harder; overall sound is more intimate.

XL: Bass is slightly(very slightly, but noticeably) less impactful, and the sound gets just a pinch airier.

 

 

Just came back from (probably that same) B&H Photo with some brand new M-100's...! right before they closed, insane in there

 

got the matte black, I liked the plates on the shadow but everything else on the matte black

 

--I would definitely prefer the XL pads(glasses too), but wouldn't want to take the bass cut. They sound pretty airy to me stock, so I'd rather not have to choose between the two.

 

also resisted trying a slew of top of lines, hd800's etc... I'll let these m100's settle for a bit.

 

 

Sounds great so far, everything's in their right place. Soundstage/imaging great... Bass not NEARLY as overpowering as I thought. 2013 Beats certainly takes that one...  but the m100's destroy overall.

post #19211 of 22821

I can almost guarantee that unless you are listening to the M100s with and without XL pads and doing so literally right beside each other you'll never notice. And HOW that difference manifests isn't even the same from person to person. 

 

To wit: the above poster said the XL pads made the bass less impactful, a poster earlier said it makes the bass louder and looser. For me, there was no difference at all. 

post #19212 of 22821
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Originally Posted by daMannino View Post
 

 

Just came back from (probably that same) B&H Photo with some brand new M-100's...! right before they closed, insane in there

 

got the matte black, I liked the plates on the shadow but everything else on the matte black

 

--I would definitely prefer the XL pads(glasses too), but wouldn't want to take the bass cut. They sound pretty airy to me stock, so I'd rather not have to choose between the two.

 

also resisted trying a slew of top of lines, hd800's etc... I'll let these m100's settle for a bit.

 

 

Sounds great so far, everything's in their right place. Soundstage/imaging great... Bass not NEARLY as overpowering as I thought. 2013 Beats certainly takes that one...  but the m100's destroy overall.

 

I actually had the opposite experience with the XL pads, made the bass go up a bit, did add some staging as well.  You will adjust quickly to the sound the XL pads give. 

post #19213 of 22821
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

So today, I went to a HiFi store and sampled the following:

 

- HiFiman HE-400

- Sennheiser HD800

- Denon AH-D7100

- Shure SRH1840

- Audeze LCD2

- Grado RS1i

- Grado PS500

Not to get off topic, but I see that the LCD-X was not on your list.  You might have saved $1700 by skipping those.:happy_face1:

post #19214 of 22821
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

So today, I went to a HiFi store and sampled the following:

 

- HiFiman HE-400

- Sennheiser HD800

- Denon AH-D7100

- Shure SRH1840

- Audeze LCD2

- Grado RS1i

- Grado PS500

 

This report just made me more anxious to get mine on Saturday (finger's crossed!).
I just received the Momentum today to compete against my MDR-X10 and the M-100 to see who remains home. :D
Regards

post #19215 of 22821
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Originally Posted by Red Jacket Mike View Post
 

Not to get off topic, but I see that the LCD-X was not on your list.  You might have saved $1700 by skipping those.:happy_face1:

 

Yeah I agree. I did a similar sampling lately and also walked out with what I came in with, but the most impressive phones there were the LCD-X and the Grado GS1000i (they are quite different to the RS1 which you tried).

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