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post #19096 of 21252
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Originally Posted by Red Jacket Mike View Post
 

I really want to try the XL pads, but I'm afraid of ruining my headphones.  Is it possible to order a pair of M100s with the XL pads already installed?  I'm thinking I might do that, or at least order a 2nd pair along with the XL pads.  Expensive, but then I wouldn't worry so much about the pad removal and installation.

 

Also, I could then sell the pair I liked least . . .

 

These are my only portable headphones, and I really don't want to be without them due to a botched pad replacement.

 

It's hard to break the V-Moda M-100 by ripping out the pads...  The pads would give out before the headphones do ;) 

post #19097 of 21252

The pads are a bit stronger than you'd think as they do resist the tug but you do have to be careful because the plastic holder that keeps the pads hooked on to the driver frame is rather stiff. I noticed that the plastic frame for the XL pads are actually thinner and that hooks actually dug into the side of the stock pad's frame instead of going on top of them.

 

The best way to remove them is to keep a firm grip on the driver frame and then grip the pad at a flat side so that when you pull, you have a greater chance of bending the frame inwards. There's too much structural support at the corners which resists bending.

 

Once you've got that in place, you have to pull with most of the force heading towards the center of the cups and a little bit of the force directed outwards.

 

My first pad went out pretty smoothly with a couple clicks. My second pad was tougher and when I took them out, I heard all the clicks at once and I thought I tore the pads right off the plastic frame.

 

I'd suggest calling V Moda if they'd be willing to arrange a preinstalled pair of XL pads if you're really paranoid about the whole installation process. Honestly, they should have put some instructions to go with the product. If I didn't watch some videos beforehand, I might have damaged my stock pads.

 

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They also don't explain how to put in the pads properly. The only way you'd know exactly how to install them would be if you observed how the pads looked right after you removed them (or by looking up a video). The back of the plastic frame has a flat side on the bottom which does not correspond to the top. If you look at the headphone behind the pad, you'll notice an exposed driver hole (you can probably tape this to control the bass a bit) which corresponds with the flat section of the pad's plastic frame. Since the pads hook in the same way on the outside edge regardless if they're right side up or upside down, it's possible to fit them in upside down without even realizing it. The XL pads actually has a seam on the bottom of the pads which indicates that they should be on the bottom but of course there's no way to really know without looking it up.

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Unrelated but here are my current equalizer settings. I decided to adjust my EQ according to what I found was more enjoyable instead of a completely flat sound. Basically lower bass with more emphasis on sub bass, heightened low mids and lower highs because some of the higher frequencies were hurting my ears.

 


Edited by Semont - 3/10/14 at 6:21pm
post #19098 of 21252
Thank the Lord I seem to have small, flat ears because I would almost certainly break something. The reason it's so difficult is because the headphone was never designed for this kind of mod from the get-go. Good luck to everyone who feels the need to do the mod though.
post #19099 of 21252

I'm pretty happy with mine the way they are now, with the regular pads.  I'm thinking I won't risk trying to put the XL pads on for a tiny improvement.

post #19100 of 21252

The XL pads are just for comfort, and if you find the normal pads TERRIBLE I don't think you'll find the XL pads anything but A BIT LESS TERRIBLE. The M100s are a SMALL over-ear headphones. The XL pads are literally the perimeter of my ear, and rested on my head my ears touch to the plastic. These aren't like big ol' cans where you have all this space in there. Which is actually fairly remarkable if you consider that most headphones with 50mm-ish drivers are SIGNIFICANTLY larger. It's certainly possible that the cramped airspace robs them of some separation, but I'd be hard pressed to say I find them lacking.

post #19101 of 21252
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Thank the Lord I seem to have small, flat ears because I would almost certainly break something. The reason it's so difficult is because the headphone was never designed for this kind of mod from the get-go. Good luck to everyone who feels the need to do the mod though.

 

Actually, V-MODA's Crossfade series of headphones (LP, LP2, M-80, and M-100) has always been designed to have replaceable earpads. Val (the V-MODA CEO, for those just tuning in) has just stated that they're not meant to be frequently swapped. I personally agree with those who suggest a less finnicky/hazardous method of attaching the pads should be visited for future models. I also think that if magnets were smartly utilized to not interfere with the driver function (à la B&W's brilliant P5 and P7 earpad systems), that would be an ideal elegant, low-profile, easy-access solution.

post #19102 of 21252
Its the inner plastic being so stiff and the designed fit that make the pads so hard to pull off.I cramped up my hand going back to stock.And I'm sticking with them.My ears fit in them (barely).And they are very comfortable.
post #19103 of 21252
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Originally Posted by Nirvana1000 View Post

Its the inner plastic being so stiff and the designed fit that make the pads so hard to pull off.I cramped up my hand going back to stock.And I'm sticking with them.My ears fit in them (barely).And they are very comfortable.

 

Not just stiff, but thick. The little clips actually dig INTO to the rim on the stock pads. It's a PITA. I tore the stock pads a little doing it. 

post #19104 of 21252
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Thank the Lord I seem to have small, flat ears because I would almost certainly break something. The reason it's so difficult is because the headphone was never designed for this kind of mod from the get-go. Good luck to everyone who feels the need to do the mod though.

Same boat here...lucky me I have super tiny ears :D

post #19105 of 21252

Has anyone ever cracked a pair of these open to look at the drivers themselves? VMODA is so tight-lipped about them I'd be really curious to actually take a look at how "dual diaphragm" looks. 

post #19106 of 21252
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Originally Posted by SpiderNhan View Post


It's dual-diaphragm. Not the same thing. leemaniac is talking about 4 drivers total, 2 in each ear. What all V-Moda headphones has is dual-diaphragm which looks like this:
VModa_M80V80_photo_inside.jpg

It's one driver, but with 2 parts. This is a quote from Tyll at Innerfidelity:

"Proprietary "Dual Driver" has two parts: a center dome, and surrounding flexure. Kolton claims the center dome is responsibe for clearer mids and highs, while the surrounding flexure improves bass response."
post #19107 of 21252

Thank ya sir!

post #19108 of 21252

My latest setup:

 

post #19109 of 21252
I see it but I don't know what I'm looking at.
post #19110 of 21252

Google Glass XE12 with a microUSB to 3.5mm adapter from Samsung and the 0.2M NuForce Transient cable into the M-100.

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