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post #19021 of 20870

The better answer is magnetic shields.  Already using metal, just gotta have a few magnetic connection points in spots that don't interfere with the driver (probably where the screws lie currently).  I have a feeling more people would have extra shields if they were simple to just pop off and pop back on.

post #19022 of 20870
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Originally Posted by dbdynsty25 View Post
 

The better answer is magnetic shields.  Already using metal, just gotta have a few magnetic connection points in spots that don't interfere with the driver (probably where the screws lie currently).  I have a feeling more people would have extra shields if they were simple to just pop off and pop back on.


i appreciate what your saying, but i imagine plates getting lost at random and aggravated people... dont forget, the shields are there to, well, shield. i can say from personal experience they do this very well. as these are portable phones, they get battered about quite abit when i take them commuting to other cities. if they were the pop-on pop-off kind i suspect the whole purpose of them being there would just fail...

post #19023 of 20870
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i appreciate what your saying, but i imagine plates getting lost at random and aggravated people... dont forget, the shields are there to, well, shield. i can say from personal experience they do this very well. as these are portable phones, they get battered about quite abit when i take them commuting to other cities. if they were the pop-on pop-off kind i suspect the whole purpose of them being there would just fail...

 

Just if there were a way to pop them on and off without needing an allen key would be nice. There could be clips, something to turn, there are definitely ways to do it. I'd have a stack of the things if I could swap them out depending on my mood.

post #19024 of 20870
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Just if there were a way to pop them on and off without needing an allen key would be nice. There could be clips, something to turn, there are definitely ways to do it. I'd have a stack of the things if I could swap them out depending on my mood.


these would add extra cost to manufacturing. 300$ is already stretching it given that these are portable. atleast imo...

the allan key and screws that the m-100 sports are standard sizes, keeping the costs down. for example, the volume pot on jds labs amps (specifically the cmoy and O2, since i cant speak for the others) are held in place by the same size allen screws, albeit a different design.

 

i get it, peoples headphones are cracking and this shouldnt be. but like i said, i suspect alot of the cracks are due to the users own fault. true, the things were meant to be switched out by the user in the first place and the design should have probably included rubber rings such as RPG mentioned. and yea, some peoples phones are cracking despite them not touching the sheilds themselves, but as far as i can remember, v-moda replaced most of the defected pairs with no hassle... maybe not for everyone, but for most atleast

post #19025 of 20870
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Originally Posted by dbdynsty25 View Post

The better answer is magnetic shields.

That's actually a terrible solution.

What makes a dynamic speaker driver work? Magnets. Specifically, the interaction between the permanent magnet attached to the driver membrane and the electromagnetic field generated by electrical current passing through the voice coil.

What happens to a dynamic speaker driver if you bring another magnet close to it? Distortion and possibly physical damage to the driver membrane.
post #19026 of 20870
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Originally Posted by ratinox View Post

That's actually a terrible solution.

What makes a dynamic speaker driver work? Magnets. Specifically, the interaction between the permanent magnet attached to the driver membrane and the electromagnetic field generated by electrical current passing through the voice coil.

What happens to a dynamic speaker driver if you bring another magnet close to it? Distortion and possibly physical damage to the driver membrane.

Well magnets have been used in other headphones without issues (see Astro gaming headphones). You can utilize small magnets with some shielding so that it doesn't affect the main driver. But hey...you're apparently a design engineer and you know better.
post #19027 of 20870
STICKERS!!!

oh well, at least V-Moda has a great warranty. Not going to test it out yet as my headphones are fully functional.

Tis just a flesh wound!
post #19028 of 20870
This is a rare instance where I'd be happy to pay more for less. I'm quite happy with my matt black cans and will never have an aesthetic need to change them, so why not have a solid model with fixed guards? I'd be tempted to take my guards off right now and glue them back on without the screws, If I didn't just know that I'd probably crack them getting the screws out in the first place.
post #19029 of 20870
Great warranty isn't much good to those of us who live on the other side of the world.
post #19030 of 20870
It should be. PM Val about it.
post #19031 of 20870

^ I would be surprised if it costed me less than $35 to ship a headphone to US from Finland, I haven't checked lately but I'd expect it to be about 35~$40 with a regular postal carrier. I think that's what he means, US to europe is cheaper than the other way 'round. Two days ago I sent a very small domestic parcel only weighing 285g (work related) "to-the-door" and this costed a whooping $22, that's Finnish postal pricing for you.

Then you have to wait ages before you get your replaced/fixed unit too. This, for a small crack that should never have happened in first place if the basic physics laws hadn't been ignored.

Moral of the story: don't skip your physics class!

(Hope you sense a healthy dose of sarcasm)


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/6/14 at 9:58am
post #19032 of 20870
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Originally Posted by dbdynsty25 View Post

But hey...you're apparently a design engineer and you know better.

Electronics hobbyist and wannabe double-E.

Magnets could be made to work but it's not so simple as sticking some in the housing if you don't want distorted playback, and it would increase design and manufacturing costs (tiny screws cost much less than rare earth magnets).
post #19033 of 20870
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Originally Posted by ratinox View Post

Electronics hobbyist and wannabe double-E.

Magnets could be made to work but it's not so simple as sticking some in the housing if you don't want distorted playback, and it would increase design and manufacturing costs (tiny screws cost much less than rare earth magnets).

Well yeah the cost per unit would go up but not any more than replacing cracked wing plates and cups. I agree that it would take more work and be harder to deal with design wise but for warranty purposes it would be smart I would think.
post #19034 of 20870

Warranty aside, I guarantee VMODA would make it back just by letting the customer easily swap shields out. Heck I'll bet people would buy a bunch of colors even without engraving just to swap around depending on mood.

post #19035 of 20870
I'm sure a lot of people would go for that. My own personal favourite colour combination is black on... black.
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