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Yes. They are in the process of redesigning it. Luckily I have one from my old m80s that still works great.

Interestingly...when using the 3 button vs the 1 button that came w the M100s...the sound of out of my MacBook Air is significantly quieter. But when I use it with other devices it's about the same. Must be an impedance thing w the output of the Air.

 

I really think new Macbooks ratchet down their headphone output hard, because my iPhone can push these things with a lower volume setting than the Macbook Pro. It's kinda aggravating.

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Yes. They are in the process of redesigning it. Luckily I have one from my old m80s that still works great.


Interestingly...when using the 3 button vs the 1 button that came w the M100s...the sound of out of my MacBook Air is significantly quieter. But when I use it with other devices it's about the same. Must be an impedance thing w the output of the Air.

I really think new Macbooks ratchet down their headphone output hard, because my iPhone can push these things with a lower volume setting than the Macbook Pro. It's kinda aggravating.
Or maybe your MacBook is defective. XD

I run my iPhone at ~30-40% volume on the bus, and the MacBook on notch 0.25-6/16 as shown before.
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Or maybe your MacBook is defective. XD

I run my iPhone at ~30-40% volume on the bus, and the MacBook on notch 0.25-6/16 as shown before.

 

I think you either have REALLY loud music files or you listen to music ridiculously quietly, because the whole reason apps like Boom exist is that Macbooks are notoriously quiet. :P If it were possible to listen to music comfortably at less than one notch, a volume increasing app would make peoples' ear drums explode, LOL. 

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Or maybe your MacBook is defective. XD


I run my iPhone at ~30-40% volume on the bus, and the MacBook on notch 0.25-6/16 as shown before.

I think you either have REALLY loud music files or you listen to music ridiculously quietly, because the whole reason apps like Boom exist is that Macbooks are notoriously quiet. :P If it were possible to listen to music comfortably at less than one notch, a volume increasing app would make peoples' ear drums explode, LOL. 
But like I said, even with one of the quietest pieces of music I have in my library, my volume was ~50% on the bus with the M-100. I can get sufficiently loud volumes even with a really inefficient headphone like the AKG K 701.
Like right now actually. Volume 3 is a bit too loud for me.



I don't know about you, but anything more than 1 volume notch is insanely loud for my ears, even in the quiet beginning part of this song.


The camera's microphone doesn't capture what you hear when the headphones are on your head. It's much louder on the head than what's picked up in the video. I'm using the M-100 as headphones, not desktop speakers. XD
Edited by miceblue - 2/23/14 at 3:37pm
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Okay that's just crazy. My stuff doesn't go even CLOSE to that loud. On any headphones. Or any laptop I've ever had. I -wish-.
 
And you're sure you don't have Boom or something similar installed??
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Okay that's just crazy. My stuff doesn't go even CLOSE to that loud. On any headphones. Or any laptop I've ever had. I -wish-.

And you're sure you don't have Boom or something similar installed??
Yeah I'm sure. I actually didn't know about Boom until you mentioned it. I never needed to increase the volume past 1 volume notch even on my MacBook from 2008.
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Yeah I'm sure. I actually didn't know about Boom until you mentioned it. I never needed to increase the volume past 1 volume notch even on my MacBook from 2008.

 

That's insanity. I've had tons of laptops over the years and I honestly can't recall any time when they powered my devices like that. Not even a little bit. Best I've had was a gaming laptop where 50% was adequate. 

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@ Miceblue

You don't have any Vulcan blood in you by any chance?
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That's insanity. I've had tons of laptops over the years and I honestly can't recall any time when they powered my devices like that. Not even a little bit. Best I've had was a gaming laptop where 50% was adequate. 

 you must have some really loud music or your just use to loud volumes

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Yeah I'm sure. I actually didn't know about Boom until you mentioned it. I never needed to increase the volume past 1 volume notch even on my MacBook from 2008.

i agree i'm using a macbook from 2008-2009 and i never really need to go beyond 1 click and i even reduce the volume on itunes to like 70%

 

of course i'm listening on my noontec zoro (18ohms and like 107 sensitivity)

 

but even when using my other gear (vsonic gr07be, re400 i never need to go beyond 1 click on the volume) all i do is adjust the volume on itunes (on my re400 and vsonic gr07 i go maybe about 90% on the itunes volume bar but on the mac still 1 volume 

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heres a older picture (although this is just a bit lower than what i'm listening to now ) the mac volume is still the same only the itunes is moved up like ever so little to the right (louder) and you can see the music i'm listening to soo none of its really screamo or anything all really poppy music 

 

heres a more recent picture

 the only time i need to turn it up past this is only when using my monoprice 8323 and thats only to 2 clicks at max (100%) itunes volume but no more even then is a bit loud. and yes on the bus i use my vsonic gr07 be off my iphone at about 40% 

 

 

try listening at a low volume and work your way up slowly, even at 3/16 on the mac at 100% my ears hurt after, and starts ringing soo not advised, the macbook has enough power. now how clean the audio sounds is another story, i won't even get into that

 

btw not using any external dac just straight off the macbook pro


Edited by Tom22 - 2/23/14 at 5:04pm
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Just out of curiosity, what are you guys listening to? I mean. I can hear it at 1 notch, but let me tell you. Deathspell Omega at 1 volume notch just uh... well it doesn't really work. 

 

If I throw on the Bastion soundtrack, I can listen to Zia's song and it's pretty nice down there, but that's because it's quiet and laid back music, but that just doesn't feel at all right. 

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Just out of curiosity, what are you guys listening to? I mean. I can hear it at 1 notch, but let me tell you. Deathspell Omega at 1 volume notch just uh... well it doesn't really work. 

 

If I throw on the Bastion soundtrack, I can listen to Zia's song and it's pretty nice down there, but that's because it's quiet and laid back music, but that just doesn't feel at all right. 

i'm jus listening to kpop and other pop music. If you really want to kinda gauge the dynamics of the music and everything to see how loud it is look up rainbow- cha cha or dal shabet b.b.b might not be your cup of tea

 

but my noontec zoros are really efficent even on youtube videos on 1 click on the mac i have to turn down the volume on youtube to about 60-70% so take that with a grain of salt

 

well to each their own right? my ears aren't your ears.

 

just to me those settings i described about is perfect for me.

 

sorry for diverting this thread, 

post #18778 of 22939
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

Just out of curiosity, what are you guys listening to? I mean. I can hear it at 1 notch, but let me tell you. Deathspell Omega at 1 volume notch just uh... well it doesn't really work. 

If I throw on the Bastion soundtrack, I can listen to Zia's song and it's pretty nice down there, but that's because it's quiet and laid back music, but that just doesn't feel at all right. 
I'm listening to a YouTube version, but 0.25 of a notch is quite loud for me at least with the LCD-X at the moment (likewise for the M-100).



My testing playlist (I pretty much listen to anything but death metal/screamo, dubstep, and American pop music):

^ the only reason why the volume is at 0 dBFS is because I'm using an external DAC and a maximum volume from the source produces a bit-perfect signal to the DAC.
Edited by miceblue - 2/23/14 at 5:49pm
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My last two iMacs at work have really high output voltages on the headphone jacks. I have the master volume set to around 3 boxes with my little JBL speakers at about 50%. That's loud enough to hear but not loud enough to carry outside my office. With headphones I have to drop the volume to around 1 box and change to avoid deafening myself.
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I'm legit jealous, lol. Wish I had such an easy time pushing my devices. 

 

Side note. These headphones actually may have stopped me from seeing more and more bass. It's weird but true. See, these are beautiful and active, vibrant and just plain fun, with enough bass for hip hop, right?

 

Well, if you listen to rap, then you know the appeal of bass until your teeth rattle. One of my favorite bass heavy tracks is Flickin, by Frayser Boy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERQVnAMCu1o). It has a massive bass line that sounds awesome with a big system. The M100s have deep, powerful bass, but also clarity elsewhere in the spectrum. Listening to that track today, I noticed something for the first time. 

 

There's a synth choir following the bass. 

 

It's quiet, easily missed with headphones that have a crazy V response (most cheap headphones that I've had over the years), but there it is. Now I've been blasting this song on bass heavy systems and headphones for years now and never noticed that. I would have said emphatically that the producer intended it to be played with the bass up to 11. But then why is that little synth voice there? You can't hear it with the bass blasting. It's a rap song, it doesn't add atmosphere. 

 

Basically, I realized that even for rap I'd been missing things by seeking out enormous bass output. Oh sure, my car is gonna remain my zone to make my mirrors quake and fall off with subs pounding until the seats vibrate, but these babies have helped me discover that you can have thundering bass without losing the rest of the song.

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