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post #18736 of 22858
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Originally Posted by DangerToast View Post


I guess what I'm asking is: what happens when you plug a DAC into something that already has a DAC? Is that bad? I know double amping is bad but I'm not sure about this.

 

The DAC/Amp only acts as an amp in those situations, so you're not double DAC-ing - you're only using the DAC from the iPod.

post #18737 of 22858
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Originally Posted by DangerToast View Post


I guess what I'm asking is: what happens when you plug a DAC into something that already has a DAC? Is that bad? I know double amping is bad but I'm not sure about this.

 

Double amping isn't always bad, so long as your source has a clean output. I double amp my J3 with my arrow 4G. but because at max volume the J3's HO is basically the same as a LO, it doesn't make much difference. Every player is different. However, for a DAC you need a LO that bypasses the internal DAC. 

post #18738 of 22858

There's 3 rings around the input jack of the microphone cable, when I plug these into my odac, the middle part of the soundstage is completely gone. When I pull it out a little, everything's back to normal. Any suggestions as to why?

post #18739 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post

There's 3 rings around the input jack of the microphone cable, when I plug these into my odac, the middle part of the soundstage is completely gone. When I pull it out a little, everything's back to normal. Any suggestions as to why?
The ODAC? Just a DAC?

That happens to me with the Objective 2, except a microphone cable has a 4-ring TRRS connector. I'm guessing the headphone jack has a bad connection with the 4-ring connectors such that one of the internal connecting pins isn't aligned with the 4 rings.
post #18740 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Nec3 View Post
 

There's 3 rings around the input jack of the microphone cable, when I plug these into my odac, the middle part of the soundstage is completely gone. When I pull it out a little, everything's back to normal. Any suggestions as to why?

 

 

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post


The ODAC? Just a DAC?

That happens to me with the Objective 2, except a microphone cable has a 4-ring TRRS connector. I'm guessing the headphone jack has a bad connection with the 4-ring connectors such that one of the internal connecting pins isn't aligned with the 4 rings.

 

 

Yeah pretty much what miceblue said. Not everything can accept a TRRS jack. Probably to cut costs the O2/ODAC were created with a TRS jack. Some FiiO products have the same issue.

 

If you want a definitive test, just flip the cable so that the TRRS side goes into the headphones and the TRS side goes into the ODAC.

post #18741 of 22858
I use mine with a portaphile 627, not mandatory as I have a Fiio x3 but it definitely adds snap and space. Great combo but pricey.
post #18742 of 22858
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Originally Posted by kyuuketsuki View Post
 

 

 

 

 

Yeah pretty much what miceblue said. Not everything can accept a TRRS jack. Probably to cut costs the O2/ODAC were created with a TRS jack. Some FiiO products have the same issue.

 

If you want a definitive test, just flip the cable so that the TRRS side goes into the headphones and the TRS side goes into the ODAC.

 

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post


The ODAC? Just a DAC?

That happens to me with the Objective 2, except a microphone cable has a 4-ring TRRS connector. I'm guessing the headphone jack has a bad connection with the 4-ring connectors such that one of the internal connecting pins isn't aligned with the 4 rings.

 

Well I got lazy typing the odac/o2 since I'm on my phone, my apologies >.<

 

Your solution works kyuuketsuki, thanks for the help miceblue as well. Originally my thoughts were that the objective 2 headphone in port was wearing out, until I noticed the 3 ring instead of the standard 2 ring on my other cables.


Edited by Nec3 - 2/22/14 at 10:18am
post #18743 of 22858

Any advice on how to take out the stock ear pad? I've been trying but I can't manage to get it off... 

 

Edit: OMG one came off... :x now to do the other side...

post #18744 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Miss Roxy View Post

Any advice on how to take out the stock ear pad? I've been trying but I can't manage to get it off... 

Edit: OMG one came off... :x now to do the other side...

Well its easier to watch a youtube video, but normally you put your fingers inside and hold the foam between fingers and palm, you will still find it hard if you try to pull directly upwards, just the trick here to pull upwards and to the center to remove it from under the clips.
post #18745 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Miss Roxy View Post

Any advice on how to take out the stock ear pad? I've been trying but I can't manage to get it off... 

Edit: OMG one came off... :x now to do the other side...

Yeah, the key is to get all your fingers inside the cup. I tore mine slightly when I only had 2 of my fingers. Use leverage when pulling off.
post #18746 of 22858
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Originally Posted by Miss Roxy View Post
 

Any advice on how to take out the stock ear pad? I've been trying but I can't manage to get it off... 

 

Edit: OMG one came off... :x now to do the other side...

The trick is to pull the edge inward toward the center first. Gotta clear at least one of the clips and then it gets easy. They don't lift straight out.

post #18747 of 22858

In addition to adding the xl pads, I bent the headband just the slightest bit and now the m-100 is easily the most comfortable headphone I've ever owned that still makes a good seal.

post #18748 of 22858
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Originally Posted by DangerToast View Post
 

In addition to adding the xl pads, I bent the headband just the slightest bit and now the m-100 is easily the most comfortable headphone I've ever owned that still makes a good seal.

 

I feel like the only person who hates the XL pads. My ears started to hurt like crazy after maybe 15 minutes wearing those things. 

 

BUT, that's a good thing, because it means V-MODA made two styles that work for different people, so everyone can get what works for them!

post #18749 of 22858
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

I feel like the only person who hates the XL pads. My ears started to hurt like crazy after maybe 15 minutes wearing those things. 

BUT, that's a good thing, because it means V-MODA made two styles that work for different people, so everyone can get what works for them!

Had it not been for the XL pads, I probably would have returned my M-100s. We definitely all have different preferences. biggrin.gif
post #18750 of 22858

Ditto on the return without the XL's. My ears rubbed so bad that they hurt when I slept.

 

Thats why options are good!

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