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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

Off topic: I think the B&W sound is not for most people, but I just happened to like how they tune their products.  This is why I hope to trade up from my Nissan GT-R with its grabage Bose system to a Jag XKR-S or a Maserati GT with their B&W system.  Of course I am open minded and there is a B&O shop near me, so I guess I will try to go demo the new H6 when they get's it.


Off-topic response- IMO B&W makes the most natural-sounding, transparent speakers on the planet.  My center channel speaker in my home theater setup is a B&W.  Also, Val owns a pair of $40K B&W Nautilus speakers. 

 

I think the P5 has comparable mids and highs to the M-100, but falls far short on bass.

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Off-topic response- IMO B&W makes the most natural-sounding, transparent speakers on the planet.  My center channel speaker in my home theater setup is a B&W.  Also, Val owns a pair of $40K B&W Nautilus speakers. 

 

I think the P5 has comparable mids and highs to the M-100, but falls far short on bass.

Still off topic: Nice!  And I think the reason why B&W sounds like that is because they mostly tune their products with classical music.  If you register their stuff and go to their download page, pretty much all of them are classical's from London Symphony Orchestra (LSO).

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


Off-topic response- IMO B&W makes the most natural-sounding, transparent speakers on the planet.  My center channel speaker in my home theater setup is a B&W.  Also, Val owns a pair of $40K B&W Nautilus speakers. 

 

I think the P5 has comparable mids and highs to the M-100, but falls far short on bass.

 

Yeah the Nautilus is legendary - I have no doubts about the quality of B&W speakers. I just think that B&O's new headphones are better than B&W's current headphone offerings, that's all. And they should well be, considering that they cost more. But anyways, let's not hijack the thread - back to the M-100!
post #15604 of 20874
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

That's why I am interested in the MDR-1R just to try it out.

Too bad you're not local.  We're having a MN meet this weekend and I'll have a pair with me!

post #15605 of 20874
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Too bad you're not local.  We're having a MN meet this weekend and I'll have a pair with me!

LOL thanks for the invite, but there is a Sony store close enough that I can get a pair... at MSRP :(.  I am still thinking about getting it via Amazon, as the 1R at $300 but the 1RNC is only $350.

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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

I was never impressed with B

Funny, I was of the opposite opinion. I wasn't all that impressed with the P5 or P3 for the price. Likewise for the C5 which sounded good to my ears but only marginally better than the vPulse which is 1/2 the price. B&O on the other hand has some seriously impressive stuff. Have you heard the premium surround sound system that they make for Jags and other luxury cars? The sound is just orgasmic. I've also always wanted a pair of BeoLab 5, but there's no way I'd spend $15k on a pair of speakers, especially when a pair of Mirage OMD-28 can be had for 1/4 of that. In any case, the H6 sounds very good, at least on the level of M-100 and Momentum technically.

Wow jeeze. Companies need better names and product names. I thought you were talking about the C5 amp the whole time. -_-

Let me combine my C4 PMP with my C5 amp with my C5 earphones that I ordered from B&W, B&O, and B&H. Lemme throw in that I'll be listening to this stuff in a BMW while enjoying some A&W while I'm at it. XD

But yeah, I appreciate V-MODA's creative product names like M for Modern-audiophile.
post #15607 of 20874
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Wow jeeze. Companies need better names and product names. I thought you were talking about the C5 amp the whole time. -_-

Let me combine my C4 PMP with my C5 amp with my C5 earphones that I ordered from B&W, B&O, and B&H. Lemme throw in that I'll be listening to this stuff in a BMW while enjoying some A&W while I'm at it. XD

But yeah, I appreciate V-MODA's creative product names like M for Modern-audiophile.

LOL, tell me about it.  To me C4 and C5 means totally different things.

post #15608 of 20874
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

Agreed.  My Sig DJs are fully circumauaral, but do have a bulkier look that makes them somewhat overkill for portable use compared to the M-100.
I don't usually get more than an hour of portable use with headphones anyway, lol. So I agree with you too.

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Originally Posted by Snoopy Ears View Post

In light of all the recent negativity in this thread, I found this article very interesting in regards to deceptive online reviews done by MIT.  The link goes to dpreview.com which has a link to the actual study.  http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/07/15/new-study-investigates-online-reviews

Still loving my M-100's.  Comfort issues zero and am still having a blast listening to them for at least 3 hours a day.  For all those people who are having comfort issues, it'd be interesting to hear what they think are the most comfortable HP's they've listened to.  Honestly, I tried the Sony MD-1R and they felt like nothing was on my head.
Well, my ears get a bit sore after an hour, and then I need a break, but I'm fine after the break. Most comfortable headphones for me were my Audio Technica ATH-AD700, after I bent the headband arcs to better angle the earcups to my head. They were so light weight, clamped lightly, didn't keep heat contained, didn't cause headband soreness; the only issue was the velour started to get itchy or if I wasn't paying attention they would slide and my ears would touch part of the driver cover... Both issues mainly showing up after 3 hours of use, several times while gaming I used them without noticing discomfort for 8 hour marathons.

But they are too big, and perhaps too purple, to wear outside.



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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

Mad Dogs
Sennheiser HD600s
Sony MDR-1R
Denon 2k/5k/D600s
Beyer DT770
etc etc etc

are all more comfortable than the M100s.

BUT, that's just 1 characteristic to look for in a headphone though.
I still think the M100s are KING in portability!
Couple that with a good price, good sound, etc. and it's a pretty good buy... but for some (i.e. ME), I rank comfort almost as high as sound reproduction ;-)

BTW, what is this thing about "ejection" I read a few posts back?!?
Lol, I dropped my M-100 on the concrete porch immediately upon opening the case for the first time (you'll notice it in my unboxing video!), and perhaps because the earcup ejected, nothing snapped, cracked, or dented. It was easier to put back together than a new roll of toilet paper!
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

Ahhh, got it!
So I guess people have dropped the M100s and this is what happens!?
It's nice if you can put it back with no problems I guess.
Yeah, no problems. I would rather easily pop an earcup back into the metal "yolks," than have cracks and snapped pieces.
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

LOL, tell me about it.  To me C4 and C5 means totally different things.
Do you think of Call of Duty? I read your post and thought of CoD4 Search and Destroy.
Edited by Evshrug - 7/16/13 at 9:49pm
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Are the forthcoming XL pads not as important to users as I'd thought, or is their appearance in V-Moda's marketing graphics on Amazon a bigger deal than the last four pages of this thread might seem to indicate?  

 

While I haven't had any real comfort issues with the M-100, the idea of their being more comfortable seems a great perk, especially after I've owned them for all this time.  And the fact that V-Moda has pursued the idea slowly and systematically makes the XLs sound worthy of attention.

 

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About the photo:  My understanding is that the XL is the second (horizontal) black pad in the photo on the Amazon Coilpro product page, not both black pads. That horizontal difference -- i.e., thickness -- is the point. 

 

This is also borne out by the order of the series in the wording.

 

white  gray  black
XL-black

ErgoSoft memory

foam cushions in

original & extra large

sizes

 

 

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Question for those who've been discussing the C5:

 

A lot of people seem to like the C5 with the M100s; is the same not true of the Objective2/ODAC?  I ask because I'd be more interested in a single-module amp/DAC combination, particularly one that could be used with my Galaxy S4 (with DAC) and iMod 5.5 (with amp alone and specifically at work).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if JDL created a standalone DAC/C5 combination? The same potentiometer/channel imbalance issues that affect portable amps also apply to amp/DACs (cf. virtually everything by FiiO).


Edited by scrypt - 7/17/13 at 12:51am
post #15610 of 20874
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Originally Posted by scrypt View Post

Are the forthcoming XL pads not as important to users as I'd thought, or is their appearance in V-Moda's marketing graphics on Amazon a bigger deal than the last four pages of this thread might seem to indicate?  

 

While I haven't had any real comfort issues with the M-100, the idea of their being more comfortable seems a great perk, especially after I've owned them for all this time.  And the fact that V-Moda has pursued the idea slowly and systematically makes the XLs sound worthy of attention.

 

=========

 

About the photo:  My understanding is that the XL is the second (horizontal) black pad in the photo on Amazon, not both black pads.  This is also borne out by the order of the series in the wording.

 

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A lot of people seem to like the C5 with the M100s; is the same not true of the Objective2/ODAC?  I ask because I'd be more interested in a single-module amp/DAC combination, particularly one that could be used with my Galaxy S4 (with DAC) and iMod 5.5 (with amp alone and specifically at work).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if JDL created a standalone DAC/C5 combination? The same potentiometer/channel imbalance issues that affect portable amps also apply to amp/DACs (cf. virtually everything by FiiO).

[JDS Labs] C5 + UD100 DAC and OTG cable mods + M-100 =

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/647838/jds-labs-c5-portable-amplifier-appreciation-discussion-thread-check-1st-post-for-review/360#post_9216039

 

With the UD100's near-ODAC performance and the C5's near-O2 performance, I think you can make a killer mobile combo with those modifications. I'm not sure if it works with the Galaxy S4 per se though.

post #15611 of 20874
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

[JDS Labs] C5 + UD100 DAC and OTG cable mods + M-100 =

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/647838/jds-labs-c5-portable-amplifier-appreciation-discussion-thread-check-1st-post-for-review/360#post_9216039

 

With the UD100's near-ODAC performance and the C5's near-O2 performance, I think you can make a killer mobile combo with those modifications. I'm not sure if it works with the Galaxy S4 per se though.


Thanks for that!

 

According to this foont, the Galaxy S4/UD100 combination does work. 

 

Still considering which DAC to buy for my S4.  I'll be using it with my M100s, but also my TF-10s, the Amperior, the ER-4S and a hoary pair of Grado HF-1s (I really should buy two tiny RCA Victor dogs to mount on the wooden earcups).  I own many others, but these are the ones I tend to use at work and in transit.


Edited by scrypt - 7/17/13 at 3:00am
post #15612 of 20874
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Do you think of Call of Duty? I read your post and thought of CoD4 Search and Destroy.

More like CoD... for real.

post #15613 of 20874
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Originally Posted by martybm5 View Post

As subjective as 'enough volume' is ..... In my opinion the new MD's have enough. You can get enough bass to rumble your ears and if you pu t your hands on the outside of the phones you can feel the thump coming through the earcups. Do you get as much SPL as the M100's ? Absolutely not, and it takes more volume to get those levels of SPL (I'm running my E12 with the Bass boost turned on) but without a doubt you get the bass if you push it, AND the nice thing about the MD's, is that they can handle all the power you want to push at them. The same volume setting on my M100s+E12 would be unbearable. With the MD's it still sounds good (albeit very loud)

 

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

^ yeah with the new pads, the Mad Dogs have some really nice rumble
This song sounded quite awesome with the Mad Dogs, but I think the M-100 has better instrument separation and soundstage width. The Mad Dogs have a similar congested sound as the LCD-2 I tried.

weird... i cant seem to delete the video... anyway, im trying to think of what my next purchase is gonna be. its between the mad dogs, pro-500 and a used d2k (if i can find one when i finally get the money together, which wont be in the near future). and with the mad dogs, it keeps coming down to the same point - no one can really tell me if theyre capable of creating enough bass to please a basshead. this is obviously to be expected, as sound is subjective and all that, so ofcourse ill only ever know once i try for myself... anyway, MD talk is totally off topic...

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Some laugh but putting a length or rope (1/4" or 3/8") under the pads all the way around keeps your ears from hitting the driver cover.  As well, this mod allows you to tuck your ears under the pads and seriously helps. 

 

depends on your ears... ive modded the hell out of my pads (softie mod) and i still get uncomfortable after ~1.5 hours. i can keep going on, and its not downright painful like it was without the mod, but its still not comfortable per se. 

my ears stick out more than average i guess... its weird though because they dont look that abnormal...

 

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Originally Posted by scrypt View Post

A lot of people seem to like the C5 with the M100s; is the same not true of the Objective2/ODAC?  I ask because I'd be more interested in a single-module amp/DAC combination, particularly one that could be used with my Galaxy S4 (with DAC) and iMod 5.5 (with amp alone and specifically at work).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if JDL created a standalone DAC/C5 combination? The same potentiometer/channel imbalance issues that affect portable amps also apply to amp/DACs (cf. virtually everything by FiiO).


ive been using my m-100 with my O2+Odac and im very very pleased (if that was your question?)

 

im pretty sure they cant put the C5 and Odac in the same case, seeing as the Odac isnt their design...

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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

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Originally Posted by martybm5 View Post

As subjective as 'enough volume' is ..... In my opinion the new MD's have enough. You can get enough bass to rumble your ears and if you pu t your hands on the outside of the phones you can feel the thump coming through the earcups. Do you get as much SPL as the M100's ? Absolutely not, and it takes more volume to get those levels of SPL (I'm running my E12 with the Bass boost turned on) but without a doubt you get the bass if you push it, AND the nice thing about the MD's, is that they can handle all the power you want to push at them. The same volume setting on my M100s+E12 would be unbearable. With the MD's it still sounds good (albeit very loud)

 

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

^ yeah with the new pads, the Mad Dogs have some really nice rumble
This song sounded quite awesome with the Mad Dogs, but I think the M-100 has better instrument separation and soundstage width. The Mad Dogs have a similar congested sound as the LCD-2 I tried.

weird... i cant seem to delete the video... anyway, im trying to think of what my next purchase is gonna be. its between the mad dogs, pro-500 and a used d2k (if i can find one when i finally get the money together, which wont be in the near future). and with the mad dogs, it keeps coming down to the same point - no one can really tell me if theyre capable of creating enough bass to please a basshead. this is obviously to be expected, as sound is subjective and all that, so ofcourse ill only ever know once i try for myself... anyway, MD talk is totally off topic...

Yeah you'll have to give it a try for yourself to see if it suits your preferences. I actually prefer the super duper textured planar magnetic bass to that of the M-100 so in that regards I like the Mad Dog's bass. The M-100's bass in comparison "feels" more rumbly with the sub-bass but it sounds kind of dull in comparison.

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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

 


depends on your ears... ive modded the hell out of my pads (softie mod) and i still get uncomfortable after ~1.5 hours. i can keep going on, and its not downright painful like it was without the mod, but its still not comfortable per se. 

my ears stick out more than average i guess... its weird though because they dont look that abnormal...

 

 

You're right about that - even with the rope mod I have to adjust and remove them after a while.  The rope mod only serves to stop the 'ear hitting the driver cover' issue. 

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