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post #15181 of 20235

Can't wait to see the pics of the XL pads.

 

One question: you say there is an office in the Netherlands, but the V Moda M100 cannot be bought here. There is one site that carries them for around $450, which is much higher than any other place. Any chance they'll become available in the Netherlands as well?

post #15182 of 20235
definitely looking forward to the XL pads! @Miceblue, I think at those points it's just the sheer number of instruments playing that does that it's very difficult to get dyanamic range. I might try some light bus-level compression just to get some 'pumping'.
post #15183 of 20235

I think XL or even XXL pads with GOOD DEPTH would probably improve the sound, if you can keep the bass from getting bad. To me the standard pads (which are basically "on ear" as my entire ear was touching the speaker cloth) made the headphones sound very 2D and I think if there was actually some space between the drivers and the ear (eg. you can fit your WHOLE ear inside the XL/XXL cup WITHOUT touching the cloth or needing to mod them at all) then it could sound better than the stock pads because there would be more space between the driver and your ears. Also there is the obvious comfort issue.

 

I would be tempted to try the M-100 again with proper pads, but maybe you could revise the M-100 and make them sound a bit more neutral as well so they do not sound so wonky in the treble and mids. This is constructive criticism, I honestly think if you evened out the recessed areas of the sound slightly and sorted the comfort so the whole ear can fit inside the cups with no mods then you would be onto a winner, please do not release an XL pad which is STILL too shallow!

post #15184 of 20235
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Originally Posted by valkolton View Post

 

Stay tuned for XL pics within 48 hours, promise!  And we will post them for preorder.

 

Awesome...

 

 

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Originally Posted by valkolton View Post

 

As far as normal M-100 cushions, thanks for reminding me.  I'll add to our production run grey + black.

 

...and awesome! biggrin.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

Val,

I have owned my M-100 for nearly a year and can't say enough positive about them.  I have an interest in an IEM that would be comparable to the sound of the M-100 and hope you would crowd source that product as well.  The biggest issue I have with IEM's is a comfortable, secure fit (more than what tips alone provide)...

 

As far as sound signature goes, of the IEMs I've heard, the one that comes closest to the M-100 is the original Monster Miles Davis Tribute. Similarly seductive bass and rich, unfatiguing but detailed sound. Of course they've been discontinued... frown.gif I'd love to get my ears on their successor (the Miles Davis Trumpet), but with the transition from dynamic drivers to balanced armatures, I'm not very hopeful that they'd serve as a worthy replacement. BA's and I don't tend to get along too well.

post #15185 of 20235

THANK GOD!

 

the regular pads arent deep enough no matter how much i mod them, im so looking forward to the XLs!

post #15186 of 20235

Will there be a white or gray version of the BPM for the M-100?  I have the black VTF but it just doesn't match the style for the White M-100.

 

p.s. any news on that special project for the iPod classic?  I am going to get a iPhone 5S later and hope there will be a METALLO case for it too.


Edited by DrSheep - 6/26/13 at 12:59pm
post #15187 of 20235
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

Will there be a white or gray version of the BPM for the M-100?  I have the black VTF but it just doesn't match the style for the White M-100.

p.s. any news on that special project for the iPod classic?  I am going to get a iPhone 5S later and hope there will be a METALLO case for it too.

If apple follows their long-running trend, the 5S will fit into the 5 case just fine smily_headphones1.gif.
post #15188 of 20235

Here is my review,  it is a very in-depth review. So for those who like in-depth, enjoy! 

 

PRE

As this is my first review I want to thank this community that has really helped me with my questions and decisions with purchases. First the VSONIC GR07-MK2 , second the Sony MH1C, and third the V-MODA M-100. And I would say they were all great purchases and worth the investment and time. So here’s to giving back to the community! I apologize in advance for any grammar errors as I do not have as much free time to proof read this.

 

OUTLINE

My review format follows more of a consumer review style and I won’t go into too much detail into the audio qualities of the headset as there is plenty of that already and is slightly subjective. But I will also give my own opinion also. My career involves product development and quality assurance, so I will present a slightly more critical analysis in this regard. The purpose of my review is to answer a specific question that I had before this purchase: Is this worth spending $300?

 

THE PACKAGE AND ACCESSORIES

The way the M-100 presents itself is very nice, it is a compact box and there was some thought put into the design of the packaging. In my personal opinion it seems a little wasteful to use a metal snap closure and PU handle on a potential throw away box, but that's what you get with this box!. A nice touch is the red ribbon that you need to cut to open the box. The interior of the box is also packaged nice and tight. One point is that I never noticed the paper manual warranty card until much later when I emptied out the whole box to be more thorough. The paper material was hugging the side of the box and hidden from my view. Another thing to point out is that for being headphones-on-the-go they are missing airplane adapters.

 

9/10

 

 

 

THE SHIELDS

V-MODA makes a big case about the customizability of their headphone shields. However, this was my biggest disappointment. The hex screw bar used to remove the screws is not a perfect fit and the result is a frustrating removal of the original shields that takes a lot of effort because it is easy for the hex bar to slip from the screw area. The actual screw recess is slanted while the hex bar to remove the screws is flat, you can imagine this would cause some problems. I ended up scraping a tiny bit of the screw’s paint during this process. You can what i mean from the photo below.

 

7/10

 

 

 

THE TRAVEL CASE

This travel case is made of the best material I have yet to come across, it is not made like any other I have seen.  It doesn’t seem like it would crack and it’s not made of cheap nylon material that is reinforced with an inner plastic material. In fact, the case reminds me of batman’s suit, a flat rubberized solid material. The only minor point to criticize is the ability to leave the headphone cable plugged and zipping up the case.  It is doable, but it seems like the case was not designed to leave the cable attached in the case. It’s a big shame as this greatly reduces the convenience of using the case and it is slightly annoying to have to attach the cable every time. Another thing to point out is that because it is a ball shape case it is more suitable for use with a backpack.

 

9/10

 

 

BUILD QUALITY

My overall inspection is very good, but only time will tell how great the build quality is. The only problem I found is the plastic on the share-play cable is slightly ‘deformed’. You can see this macro shot of it to see what I mean. It is likely to a less than perfect plastic molding process or handling of it when the material was not set yet. Other than that all the praise about the build quality is well founded!

 

9/10

 

 

 

COMFORT/ADJUSTMENTS

Firstly, I wear prescription glasses (IC!BERLIN). So I am picky on comfort. The over-ear pads fit my ears fine, and the depth is fine. Only the clamping force of is slightly more than what I would like. I ended up bending the headband flat twice to reduce the clamping pressure on my temples.  I believe this is the primary cause for people complaining about comfort issues with using it the first week.  After wearing it for the first week I would say the headphones have conformed nicely to my head and are very comfortable with good clamping force. Without the headband flat-bending “feature” comfort could have been a big problem.

Regarding the glasses issue, I do feel slightly more pressure on my temples because I wear glasses but it is not painful and it is a given compromise with closed-phones. It’s also worth to note that it is even more comfortable if I remove my glasses while listening to them; which I occasionally do when I don’t need to see.

 

9/10

 

 

LISTENING IN QUIET ENVIRONMENT

Even though these headphones are closed ear you would normally think these are not what is recommended for listening in quieter environments. But that is wrong! These headphones shine the best in a quiet environment because the texture of the bass and treble is amazing and everything really pops out. This texture is lost and I can’t hear it in when I am in a vehicle or noisy environment at normal volumes.

 

10/10

 

 

LISTENING IN CAR

If you have a nice car that is air tight sealed you can still hear all the great detail and texture at a reasonable volume. However if you have an old or cheap car and you are on the highway going 70 mph you can forget about having a perfect listening experience. This is my experience from being inside a ‘09 ES Lexus vs a 12 yr old Toyota 4RUNNER. If you are not on the freeway the listening experience is still good overall, but you just won’t be hearing all the details and texture on loose gravel roads.

 

8/10

 

 

LISTENING IN AIRPLANE

The kicker here is that while the wind and road noise in a cheap/old car is annoying I found the listening in airplane to be very enjoyable. They isolated better than my SENN. PXC450 with the active noise blocker turned on. So that tells you something (my PXC450s are several years old so they may not be performing as well) !  Perhaps it may be the bass that was canceling out the hum of the engine but I would say on a commercial aircraft these headphones were great. I wore these on a 13 hour flight from LAX to Hong Kong and watched two movies with them.

 

9/10

 

 

 

MUSIC

These headphones are made for mobile listening and they match up great with any smartphone on the market, the controls work very well with my Note 2. Nothing at fault here and I don’t believe they need amping to get the best sound out of it. I did find that there were a few songs where the cymbals or hi-hats would be too forward and sounded odd on some rap/hip-hop songs, but it was still an enjoyable listening experience. I suppose this is what everyone means by its colored sound signature?

 

9/10

 

 

MOVIES

Movies sound really great on my mobile and on my PC. The sound is very dynamic and the details really get picked up on these headphones. The downside is that these are not open-ear phones and you don’t get the wide expansive stage that some action packed movies utilize for you to really enjoy. However if you are just watching TV shows or non-epic movies you won’t miss that sound stage.

 

9/10

 

GAMES

Games are a double edge sword, if you are social gamer and need to talk or use a mic then closed headphones such as these can be annoying because you can hear yourself talk and you will have trouble listening to others at a LAN party.

 If you mainly play single player games or don’t need to talk to anyone during games then closed headphones like these are very suitable.

 

8/10

 

 

COMPARISIONS

 

VS MH1C

The M-100s are less bassy sounding than the MH1C. Compared to it MH1C sounds much more bass heavy in quantity. If you like the MH1C sound, you will find the M-100 to be light in the bass quantity department. And you will most likely need to add a little bass boost for some songs.

 

VS GR07-MK2

I found that compared to the GR07 MK2 the m-100 sound gives a similar impression of clarity on both ends of the spectrum. Both feel impressive throughout.  While their signature is different, if you like the GR07 I think most will like the M-100 as a big closed ear version of the GR07 with the addition of colored sound signature. The differences that I could tell are that the GR07 sounds a little brighter (more neutral in comparison) and has more sparkle. The sound stage is obviously wider on the M-100 and the bass hits deeper and fuller with slightly more quantity; the overall sound is also fuller sounding.

 

 

QUICK REVIEW RATING

 

PACKAGING and ACCESSORIES 9/10

-    Should include airplane adapter

 

SHIELD PLATES 7/10

-   Not easy to install and remove plates, easy to scratch shield in the process

 

TRAVEL CASE 9/10

-   Best quality I’ve seen so far. Not very accommodating to leaving the wire plugged in. In a ball shape more suitable for backpacks.

 

BUILD QUALITY 9/10

-   Very good so far, but only time will tell! Nitpick on the plastic mold deformation on jack.

 

COMFORT 9/10

-   Very good comfort, the key is the headband can be adjusted to reduce clamping force if need while other headsets don’t even allow for that.

 

LISTENING ENV. USE 8/10

-   Sounds good in most listening environments and isolates very well, even beats out my noise canceling headphones on the airplane.

 

SOUND 9/10

-  Colored sound but very enjoyable listening experience. Clear sounding with impactful bass. Excellent all-rounder for many types of music. Only slight annoyance might be the forward emphasis sounds of cymbals and hi-hats and similar sounding frequencies in certain songs.

 

OVERALL 8.6/10

-    The overall rating is an average of the scores above.

 

Value, Summary, and Personal opinion:

For $300 you really do get what you pay for, I feel that I got my money’s worth and there is a lot offered with the package. It is a shame about the plastic mold deformation, and the lack of airplane adaptor, and the frustration of the shield plates. At this price point I would not say it ranks very high in the value, if discounted to around $250 then these would be the only closed headphones to recommend.  I highly recommend these for any kind non-social listening as I personally can’t stand talking with closed phones and IEMs. Now If V-moda started working on an open-ear version of these at the same price point they would have another winner.


Edited by mercatorn - 6/26/13 at 10:32pm
post #15189 of 20235

Extremely excited about the xl pads. All I'm hoping for is about 3mm of extra depth and I'll be able to listen to these for hours.

post #15190 of 20235
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Originally Posted by Bruin9999 View Post

Extremely excited about the xl pads. All I'm hoping for is about 3mm of extra depth and I'll be able to listen to these for hours.

 

More like 1cm+ of extra depth please. Most headphones fit my ears in, these are nowhere near, far too shallow! Only other headphones I had problems with is the CAL which are stupidly shallow as well.

post #15191 of 20235
off-topic but does anyone have a suggestion for a fairly inexpensive LOD that's a lot more durable than the Fiio variety? so far i've gone through two recently that started cutting out after a few days use. i'm using the l9 just looped around to the input jack so i don't think i'm unduly stressing it.

thanks in advance for any suggestions!
post #15192 of 20235
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Originally Posted by Rhymenoceros View Post

off-topic but does anyone have a suggestion for a fairly inexpensive LOD that's a lot more durable than the Fiio variety? so far i've gone through two recently that started cutting out after a few days use. i'm using the l9 just looped around to the input jack so i don't think i'm unduly stressing it.

thanks in advance for any suggestions!

you can find a lot of good LODs on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOCUR-AUDIO-PURE-COPPER-99-99-IPOD-LOD-CABLE-/330896972442?pt=US_MP3_Player_Cables_Adapters&hash=item4d0aff1a9a

post #15193 of 20235
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhymenoceros View Post

off-topic but does anyone have a suggestion for a fairly inexpensive LOD that's a lot more durable than the Fiio variety? so far i've gone through two recently that started cutting out after a few days use. i'm using the l9 just looped around to the input jack so i don't think i'm unduly stressing it.

thanks in advance for any suggestions!

A few days? That's surprising. What kind of setup are you using?

 

I've been using the L9 for the past 3 months no problem, and the L3 before that for a month with no problem.

 

My L2 is holding up after 4 months too.

 

 


Edited by miceblue - 6/27/13 at 12:59pm
post #15194 of 20235
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhymenoceros View Post

off-topic but does anyone have a suggestion for a fairly inexpensive LOD that's a lot more durable than the Fiio variety? so far i've gone through two recently that started cutting out after a few days use. i'm using the l9 just looped around to the input jack so i don't think i'm unduly stressing it.

thanks in advance for any suggestions!


Interesting.  I have about 5 LOD's from FiiO I've been using in various setups for the past 12+ months with nary a failure.   I wonder if their quality control has changed.  Are they recently built/bought units? 

post #15195 of 20235

Yeah, are you using legitimate FiiO products? (i.e. do they have the scratch confirmation code at the back of your product?)

 

 


On the topic of V-MODA earphones, I just heard Justin Timberlake's "What Goes Around...Comes Around" on the radio. That was pretty much THE test track I used for my V-MODA Vibes. :D

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