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post #91 of 170
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I saw you in the other Pro700 thread as well Leon! Nice to know someone else is enjoying their ANV's. I think the tuning of the ANV is perfect for a lot of modern recordings that can get a little "hot". I actually would describe the ANV as more 'dark' than warm. There's very little mid-bass bloat to go along with that bass :)

 



That's a very good way to put it, "dark."

 

So far the ANV's work best (for me) rith R&B, chill-out Electronica, and Alt. Rock. I've gotten a lot of compliments from my colleagues about them too, since they know me as "the headphone guy."

post #92 of 170
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Originally Posted by Leon Dota View Post

That's a very good way to put it, "dark."

 

So far the ANV's work best (for me) rith R&B, chill-out Electronica, and Alt. Rock. I've gotten a lot of compliments from my colleagues about them too, since they know me as "the headphone guy."



Always fun to let people who aren't used to headphones have a listen.

I let my neighbors listen to the ANVs and L3000s yesterday, you could see their jaws dropping.  ;)

 

post #93 of 170

I wouldn't call the W3000ANV dark, myself. In fact I'm hard pressed to think of a single constituent of the W series that I'd call remotely dark. Hmm... nope. Nothing comes to mind. And I've heard 'em all. : )

 

(For reference the LCD-2 rev. 1, LCD-3, SR-007mk1... those are what I consider darker headphones.)

 

I think my next AT will be the A1000X or A2000X.

post #94 of 170
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I wouldn't call the W3000ANV dark, myself. In fact I'm hard pressed to think of a single constituent of the W series that I'd call remotely dark. Hmm... nope. Nothing comes to mind. And I've heard 'em all. : )

 

(For reference the LCD-2 rev. 1, LCD-3, SR-007mk1... those are what I consider darker headphones.)

 

I think my next AT will be the A1000X or A2000X.

 

 

Fully agree with the W3000 not being dark and LCD2.1 being dark. Don't know the LCD3 though.

But strange you consider the O2Mk1 dark. IMO that one was well balanced and airy, not bright but not what I would describe as dark though.

I had the A2000X and I found it brighter than most AT's. Just to make a silly comparison that is far from accurate but might give you an idea of what it sounds like: a mix of a W5000 with HD800 while being more upfront than the HD800. Quite good for classical, just like the HD800. A pretty big soundstage for a closed phone as well.

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Fully agree with the W3000 not being dark and LCD2.1 being dark. Don't know the LCD3 though.

But strange you consider the O2Mk1 dark. IMO that one was well balanced and airy, not bright but not what I would describe as dark though.

 

There are varying degrees of darkness, of course. I'd describe it thusly: if one imagines a continuum, and in the center is a hypothetical "perfect neutral point," everything to the left of that central point is on the darker side while everything to the right is on the brighter side. The further away one gets from the central point, the darker / brighter one gets.

 

The SR-007mk1 would be fairly close to the center point relative to most other headphones, however it would not fall directly on that center point. It would be slightly to the left, as it has (to my ears) a very slight dark tonality. The SR-009 on the other hand would be slightly to the right, with a very minute brightness.

 

Something like:

 

 

<--- LCD-2 rev. 1 --------- LCD-3 ---- SR-007mk1 -- (neutral) -- SR-009 --------SRH1840 -- W3000ANV ----SRH940--->

post #96 of 170
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I can see the logic of that. The LCD2.1 and W3000 are certainly positioned right IMO although it's hard to say for me since I haven't heard some of the phones.

I'd put the LCD2.1 at about 80% darkness and then I'm still being mild. The W3000ANV I'd put at about 50% brightness, the L3000 at about 10% and the W1000X between those two, maybe at 30%. I would have no idea where to put a stock D7000 with J$ pads though, really would have to think hard about that one.

Where would you put the D7000 and TH900 then?

All this would be listeing with the Zana and a clean tube like the Standard Radio which means a clear and detailed amp. The Zana is what I have been using since last weekend almost non-stop.

 

post #97 of 170

 

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Originally Posted by AppleheadMay View Post

I can see the logic of that. The LCD2.1 and W3000 are certainly positioned right IMO although it's hard to say for me since I haven't heard some of the phones.

I'd put the LCD2.1 at about 80% darkness and then I'm still being mild. The W3000ANV I'd put at about 50% brightness, the L3000 at about 10% and the W1000X between those two, maybe at 30%. I would have no idea where to put a stock D7000 with J$ pads though, really would have to think hard about that one.

Where would you put the D7000 and TH900 then?

All this would be listeing with the Zana and a clean tube like the Standard Radio which means a clear and detailed amp. The Zana is what I have been using since last weekend almost non-stop.

 

 

 

I seem to hear the L3000 as being much brighter than you do. In fact I want to say the W3000ANV is less bright than the L3000 to me. I also think it has a more aggressive treble than the W3000ANV. I can only stand certain genres with the L3000 for instance, whereas the W3000ANV is more versatile.

 

The D7000 is on the brighter side for me, somewhere in the vicinity of the SRH1840 and W3000ANV. The D7000 however has a more robust bottom end, so it helps to counter balance the top end for some people, making it seem less bright than it actually is. I think if you were to EQ the bass down it would be a much less pleasant headphone. The TH900 would be positioned between the SR-009 and SRH1840 for me.

 

 

neutral) -- SR-009 -- TH900 ----SRH1840 - D7000 - W3000ANV ----SRH940--->

post #98 of 170

I'm curious then: what would be considered the darkest 'good' AT?

post #99 of 170
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I'm curious then: what would be considered the darkest 'good' AT?

 

In the W series or in general?

 

I don't think any of the W series could be considered remotely dark, though relatively speaking some are less bright than others.

post #100 of 170
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In the W series or in general?

 

I don't think any of the W series could be considered remotely dark, though relatively speaking some are less bright than others.

 

Nah I mean in general. I'm wondering which of AT's higher end headphones would be considered darkest. I would probably think that the Pro700MK2ANV I have is the darkest, followed by the ES10, but they aren't exactly from the same tier as the W series. 

post #101 of 170

Hi AT people bigsmile_face.gif

 

I'm quite a newbie in the headphone world, but this far I managed to gather some good cans. Been havin plenty of joy with Beyer DT880 250 Ohms and Denon D7000. I have a few iems too, Westone 4, UE TF10, ER4S... but I decided I'm a full sized kind of head-fier dt880smile.png

 

Never heard an Audio Technica though frown.gif

 

So, as I'm getting new amps (an already ordered DNA Stratus and some solid state I'm still choosing), I wanna get also a AT can... I want one that can sumarize Audio Technica sound, if such exists and I think it does... I'm thinking of a woodie, but I can't make up my mind. I been thinking of W5000... maybe a W3000. Or should I go open? Sound leaking is not an issue... and I love AD2000 looks... rolleyes.gif Please help me choose!

 

Thanks in advance! smile.gif

post #102 of 170

Audio-Technica is my favorite headphone company. With all things equal, I would always pick an AT over other established brands.

 

In my collection so far are the M50, PRO700MK2 and the WS55. I'm looking to add the PRO500MK2 to that list soon. I've auditioned them, and I love that PRO700MK2-esque bass in a more compact form. L3000.gif

post #103 of 170

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Originally Posted by madbull View Post

Hi AT people bigsmile_face.gif

 

I'm quite a newbie in the headphone world, but this far I managed to gather some good cans. Been havin plenty of joy with Beyer DT880 250 Ohms and Denon D7000. I have a few iems too, Westone 4, UE TF10, ER4S... but I decided I'm a full sized kind of head-fier dt880smile.png

 

Never heard an Audio Technica though frown.gif

 

So, as I'm getting new amps (an already ordered DNA Stratus and some solid state I'm still choosing), I wanna get also a AT can... I want one that can sumarize Audio Technica sound, if such exists and I think it does... I'm thinking of a woodie, but I can't make up my mind. I been thinking of W5000... maybe a W3000. Or should I go open? Sound leaking is not an issue... and I love AD2000 looks... rolleyes.gif Please help me choose!

 

Thanks in advance! smile.gif

 

Hello madbull. Really, it depends on what you're looking for, as I personally don't think there's a true "house sound" with Audio-Technica; their product lines are so diverse (among the largest of any headphone manufacturer), you could get a variety of sound signatures.

 

The W series of woodies is generally a bit lighter in bass presence, with a more emphasized top end and very colored and lush midrange. It's the sort of signature that lends itself to vocals and acoustic instruments. I say 'generally' though, because some models like the W1000X and W11JPN have more emphasized bass.

 

If you want to hear what the W series is all about, then I'd suggest the W3000ANV if you can afford it (priced around $1000-$1300). Since it's their anniversary model, it represents a summation of all their past models in a way. Its sound is the closest they've come to perfecting their engineering vision for the W series. The construction also borrows different bits and pieces from past models.

 

The W5000 is also a pretty nice headphone in my opinion, and I think it's underrated here. To my ears (and the ears of some others I've spoken with) they actually sound more similar to the W3000ANV than dissimilar. Others will say they're very different, but I don't personally agree. One issue is that the fit for the W5000 is notoriously problematic, so it may require you to bend the headband slightly to get the cups to seat flush to your face. The W3000ANV may also require this. In any case, poor fit seems to contribute to some of the negative impressions regarding the W5000 relative to the W3000ANV. There are differences between the two: the W5000 has an airier and less weighty sound, and the top end is perhaps a little bit brighter.

 

I'd also whole heartedly recommend the ESW9 portable headphones. They are much less expensive and are a great choice for a first pair of Audio-Technica headphones, assuming you don't mind that they sit on-ear rather than over-ear (circumaural). They're portable, easy to store, attractive, and their sound is quite good in my opinion. I have a theory that Audio-Technica tuned them to be more like the now-discontinued ESW10JPN over time.

post #104 of 170

Thank you MuppetFace, I will take your views into consideration... smile.gif
 

post #105 of 170
Hi, fellow head-fiers, sorry in advance, i have questions need to ask here, i want to buy either W5000 or W3000ANV, i been looking online and found a store Beach Camera, i email them questions, then they told me these two headphones are made in china, but as far as i know, these two models are made in japan, i email them again to confirm it, and they said in their computer system shows these two headphones are made in china, does it mean they are selling counterfeit? Is this beach camera reliable? I even check several unboxing video on youtube, and all of them show made in japan.
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