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post #76 of 170

Well, its pretty logical since clip-ons are meant to be clipped on ears, I actually thought of that but it would be just too big for such small headphones (besides that, I dont like the look of heads as stands). But I have something different in mind right now, its basically the same as that acrylic/wooden AT stand, it would just be much smaller (half or even one third of its normal size would be sufficient), acrylic plate would be 2-3mm thick (instead of 1cm) and it would be placed horizontally (not vertically). That would be perfect, it would maintain the overall look of the rig and yet it wouldnt take much space. But as you said, I hardly can find something like that, so I might look for some handcrafter after all.
 

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I must say I never heard of such a stand before and I'd be surprised if it exists.

One Idea might be if you know a woodworker that could sculpt a small wooden head with ears so you can clip them on to those? Silly, I know, but it's about the only thing I can come up with.  :)

 



 

post #77 of 170
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There is no doubt that HD800 have the largest soundstage out of all of them. However, still don't have the sense of "air" that the AD series really shines. AD2000 have a rather condensed soundstage, if you are going for large scale classical only, I don't think it will be that good. A2000X the most airy sound I have ever heard on any closed back and decently sized, not massive nor small. W5000 have a spacious sound wider than both AD2k and A2kX but lack the sense of air those two have, maybe due to the wood shell. But, it is also far more relax than any other phones on that list.
IMO, W5000/A2000X >>>>>> AD2000 for classical. I can't stand HD800 myself but it is certainly better than AD2000 for classical, the AD2k is just not designed for listeners with a amount of large scale classical, small scale acoustics like jazz is rather captivating on the AD2000 though.

 

Got both the 2K's today. After a bit of listening to just those two tonight I have to concur. The AD2000 doesn't do classical and the A2000X doesn't do vocal jazz. Neither do 70ies hardrock well IMO, but that's exactly what the L3000 does best. That's about all I can say now after a few hours of listening right out of the box. I didn't compare to the W5000 yet.

 

In the next few weeks I'm about to throw all my fullsized cans in the ring and let them have a try at those three genres to see what I'm going to keep and sell. I fear for the HD800 as I seem to be moving towards closed cans more and more. But with my first impression of the two newcomers I do seem to like the AD2k a bit more than the A2kX for now. I wonder what will be left over.

 

I just did that with all my portables and was amazed with the result myself: I'm only keeping one of them and one for my wife, the rest will have to find new owners.
 

 

 

post #78 of 170

Oh wow, a general AT collector's thread. Hi AppleheadMay!

 

I wouldn't describe myself as a collector of AT gear just yet, but they are certainly one of my favourite brands. So far I have the following (grouped by type):

 

AD2000

AD900 <-- I'm actually trying to sell these since getting the AD2000 so if anyone is interested :)

Pro700Mk2 ANV edition

 

SQ5 <-- I use these for running

I once bought the ATH-EW9 clip ons for my sister, after another pair of the cheaper AT clip ons of hers broke, 

 

CK90Pro

CKS70 (I don't really use these anymore though)

 

In addition what is neat is that Audio Technica has their own outlet store in Sydney, so its possible to try almost everything there - though some of the range is not sold in Australia. 

 

I agree with the comments about the AD2000 not being quite right for classical though its by no means unpleasant. I have a pair of Sony Z1000's that works quite nicely, but I just got a deal on a pair of MDR-SA3000's which should be sweet. I tend to think of Sony and AT as the two companies competing for my affection as far as headphones go. I'm keen on the ES88 (as Applehead knows) but I'm trying to hold off on new purchases for a while.

 

If I had to name a reason why I love AT gear, its that they have a distinctive house sound. Apart from some of their outlying models, they always bring a beautiful rendition of vocals. In this respect the AD2000 is magical.

 

 

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In this respect the AD2000 is magical.


I've been enjoying this immensely as well. Also not a collector per say, but I probably would be if I had the means. It's ok though, because I think I've been lucky enough to find my ideal headphone in the AD2000. L3000.gif

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Oh wow, a general AT collector's thread. Hi AppleheadMay!

 

I wouldn't describe myself as a collector of AT gear just yet, but they are certainly one of my favourite brands. So far I have the following (grouped by type):

 

AD2000

AD900 <-- I'm actually trying to sell these since getting the AD2000 so if anyone is interested :)

Pro700Mk2 ANV edition

 

SQ5 <-- I use these for running

I once bought the ATH-EW9 clip ons for my sister, after another pair of the cheaper AT clip ons of hers broke, 

 

CK90Pro

CKS70 (I don't really use these anymore though)

 

In addition what is neat is that Audio Technica has their own outlet store in Sydney, so its possible to try almost everything there - though some of the range is not sold in Australia. 

 

I agree with the comments about the AD2000 not being quite right for classical though its by no means unpleasant. I have a pair of Sony Z1000's that works quite nicely, but I just got a deal on a pair of MDR-SA3000's which should be sweet. I tend to think of Sony and AT as the two companies competing for my affection as far as headphones go. I'm keen on the ES88 (as Applehead knows) but I'm trying to hold off on new purchases for a while.

 

If I had to name a reason why I love AT gear, its that they have a distinctive house sound. Apart from some of their outlying models, they always bring a beautiful rendition of vocals. In this respect the AD2000 is magical.

 

 


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I've been enjoying this immensely as well. Also not a collector per say, but I probably would be if I had the means. It's ok though, because I think I've been lucky enough to find my ideal headphone in the AD2000. L3000.gif


I'm really digging the AD2000 as well for now but I need to do some more comparing.

How is that Pro700Mk2 ANV by the way? Bass monster?

 

 

post #81 of 170
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I'm really digging the AD2000 as well for now but I need to do some more comparing.

How is that Pro700Mk2 ANV by the way? Bass monster?


Hmm. Well, I wouldn't describe them as monsters. The best I can put it is that they sound very solid. They definitely have a tilt to the lower frequencies but overall because of the clear upper treble/vocals (classic AT treatment again) they don't sound warm or too 'bloomy' like you might expect. The bass is also not so strong that it becomes dis-integrated from the rest of the signature. This is unlike say, something like the Atrio M5 (you might not have heard this but they are regarded among IEM's as the sub-bass kings) where the bass is a kick in the ears.

 

I don't know how it compares to the non ANV edition with its unique drivers, but when I bought it I got a chance to audition both. I felt that though they had similar signature, the Pro 700Mk2 had tighter (and seemingly a little softer) bass, less housing resonance (the standard edition had some plasticky timbre the ANV doesn't, and I dont know how much is due to the aluminium accents on the cups which are describe alternately in literature as being ornamental, and also acoustically significant - it might be that their mere presence on the cups is damping some vibrations in the plastic).

 

All in all, they were 33% more expensive than the standard edition in Australia, a price difference I felt was justified in their sound improvement and noticeably more snazzy build quality. While it certainly lacks the refinement of any of the A, AD, W series etc, it does have a very fun and enjoyable sound of its own, with the most surprising aspect being very articulate and coherent soundstaging, especially for a closed can. And of course because of their design for DJs, they are much more suited to portable use then any of the other models. They have a rather brutal clamping force, but its decently comfortable once they are positioned on the head right.

 

I think the 3D Wing system is reason enough to be an AT collector!

 

post #82 of 170
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Thanks for the info, they might be worth the try as well.

Yep, the wing system suits me very weel also. But some people seem to have fit problems with ATs

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Thanks for the info, they might be worth the try as well.

Yep, the wing system suits me very weel also. But some people seem to have fit problems with ATs


I had a friend who has quite a large head. When he put the AT wings on he didn't like them - he said that it felt like a large spider was clamped on the top of his head haha.

 

By the way Apple has an AT collector would you consider a swap of the ES88's for the AD900?

 

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I had a friend who has quite a large head. When he put the AT wings on he didn't like them - he said that it felt like a large spider was clamped on the top of his head haha.

 

By the way Apple has an AT collector would you consider a swap of the ES88's for the AD900?

 

Not really, I'm having a bit of a cleanup in headphones this weekend, time to decide what I will keep and sell some to fund trying out some other phones I have in mind. If I did it would be to sell off the AD900 anyway. But contact me via PM for that if you want to discuss it.
 

 

 

post #85 of 170

So AppleheadMay, I saw that you're selling your A2000x. I guess they lost out huh? :p Any parting thoughts on how they fared against the AD2000?

post #86 of 170
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The A2000X are sold already, as are the AD2000.

They lost out, yes, and no. The A2000X were on par with the HD800 (for sale as well) and I consider both phones best used for classical music. Not really a loser I'd say. ;)

Both lost against the D7000 for me.

The A2000X and AD2000 are not to be compared IMO, they both do very well with Different genres IMO.

The AD2000 lost the match with the W3000ANV which are both good for vocal, lighter rock, light jazzy stuff. (Maybe the better Jazz as well but that's not something I really like.) Some people may actually prefer the AD2000 over the W3000ANV though, I just seem to favor closed cans over open ones. After the HD800 gets sold I will have no open phones left.

 

Some more thoughts on my compariosns here in the W3000ANV thread.

All my opionion of course, I don't seem to have a mainstream taste as I don't prefer some (and even dislike some other) highly regarded phones.

For amps I seem to have a pretty conservative taste though. ;)

post #87 of 170
AD2000 have nearly polar opposite presentation and A2000X just stood out from the rest of the Audio Technica as being... not so Audio Technica sounding. It is airy as hell but sound signature is just not very Audio Technicaish. I wish to pick up a pair of A2000X once more as they are one of my favourite headphone of all time, but STAX are sucking my money at the moment...
post #88 of 170

Collector's thread, huh? Man...almost every can I own are AT's. I'll list them in order of preference, least to most preferred

 

ATH-M30

ATH-M50

Allen & Heath Xone XD-53 (Sold/Distributed under A&H; made by AT)

ATH-Pro700MK2ANV

 

Yeah, the Anniversary editions of the MK2 are incredible. Some of the richest lows I've ever heard, and the mids and highs are surprisingly clear for such a warm can. Sexy, too.

 

The only headphone I own that isn't AT right now are my Senn HD598's, and then I have some Klipsch S4's.


Edited by Leon Dota - 4/13/12 at 12:08am
post #89 of 170

Thanks for the responses guys. Very interesting...

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Collector's thread, huh? Man...almost every can I own are AT's. I'll list them in order of preference, least to most preferred

 

ATH-M30

ATH-M50

Allen & Heath Xone XD-53 (Sold/Distributed under A&H; made by AT)

ATH-Pro700MK2ANV

 

Yeah, the Anniversary editions of the MK2 are incredible. Some of the richest lows I've ever heard, and the mids and highs are surprisingly clear for such a warm can. Sexy, too.

 

The only headphone I own that isn't AT right now are my Senn HD598's, and then I have some Klipsch S4's.


I saw you in the other Pro700 thread as well Leon! Nice to know someone else is enjoying their ANV's. I think the tuning of the ANV is perfect for a lot of modern recordings that can get a little "hot". I actually would describe the ANV as more 'dark' than warm. There's very little mid-bass bloat to go along with that bass :)

 

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