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post #76 of 89
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Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

I have spoken to Franck Lopez (Earsonics manager) yesterday about Average_joe and Head-fi... and the fact that this CIEM must be pushed forward...so, Average_joe, I don't know if he will contact you or not, but the message has been send to him.

 

Hope he will do something...this CIEM is heaven...

 

While the EM4 has many of the qualities of the EM3 pro and bests it in most every way, the soundstage and coherence are not quite what they are on the EM3 Pro, so I can see where the EM6 could be better in those regards and combine the better clarity, detail, and space of the EM4.  

 

And thank you for talking to me Franck on my behalf.

post #77 of 89
Hi Joe, have you tried em4 with ibasso DX100? My em4 is on the way so I'm looking for the best portable source for it
Edited by miprasetya - 7/25/12 at 5:41pm
post #78 of 89
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Hi Joe, have you tried em4 with ibasso DX100? My em4 is on the way so I'm looking for the best portable source for it

 

This has been added to the source matching section in the first post:

 

 

 

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DX100: Comparing the DX100 with the 801 for powering the EM4, you get a more dynamic presentation with better imaging and instrument separation and presentation depth.  While the 801 is smoother and organic sounding, the DX100 is more defined and involving due to the creation of a more realistic space and a cleaner overall sound, if even by just a small margin. 8/10
post #79 of 89

Is it still true that no company can remold ear sonics IEMs?

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Is it still true that no company can remold ear sonics IEMs?

 

Whilst I can't be certain, I very much doubt that'd be the case... unless somebody could explain why?

 

On a different note, how are existing EM4 owners finding the sig over time?

 

Also, are there any more EM6 owners yet!?

post #81 of 89
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Is it still true that no company can remold ear sonics IEMs?

 

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Whilst I can't be certain, I very much doubt that'd be the case... unless somebody could explain why?

 

On a different note, how are existing EM4 owners finding the sig over time?

 

Also, are there any more EM6 owners yet!?

 

I missed this question, sorry tupac.  I thought I read that UM would remold Earsonics products so you may want to ask them.  Also, you might want to try G Customs (via the Audio Hub?) and/or Alclair as they both seem to be willing to try many different types of reshell.

 

And I too would like to hear from more owners of either the EM4 or EM6.

post #82 of 89
Have you compare Fitears 334 with EM4?
post #83 of 89
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Unfortunately, no as I only had the 334 for a relatively short period of time.  You might be able to get some info about it by reading my 5-way vs. 334 and 5-way vs. EM4 comparisons.

post #84 of 89
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Hello Joe,

 

I know that it's diffcult for you to receive CIEM's but do you think that one day, you could listen to the EM6? (if you aven't).

 

They are so different and for a lot of french audiophiles (Tellement Nomades, Tupperwav), they are even better than the Em4.  

 

I upgraded from the 4 to the 6 and their sound is so fantastic...fuller, faster, better midrange and even imaging...

 

It would be nice.

Hey Sly,

 

How does the bass compare between the two?

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Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

Hello Joe,

 

I know that it's diffcult for you to receive CIEM's but do you think that one day, you could listen to the EM6? (if you aven't).

 

They are so different and for a lot of french audiophiles (Tellement Nomades, Tupperwav), they are even better than the Em4.  

 

I upgraded from the 4 to the 6 and their sound is so fantastic...fuller, faster, better midrange and even imaging...

 

It would be nice.

Hey Sly,

 

How does the bass compare between the two?

I used to be an EM4 owner but had it rebuilt to EM6. The sound signature of the EM4, especially between 2 and 4 kHz was just too (razor) sharp for my taste. To make a long story short I would say first that the basic quality of the two is equal. However, the sound signatures are very different. With the EM4 the sound (all gamuts) appears to be born out of thin air, to appear from nothing (extremely clean). The EM6 has all the qualities of the EM4 but with a major plus, it allows you to easily envision/feel the source of the sound. The sound is endowed with body. You not only hear the song, but you can sense the presence of the singer too. This, for me, makes a world of difference. Perhaps the really low frequencies (30 to 20 Hz or so) of the EM4 were slightly easier hear, but the EM6 presents the bass with a whole lot more body and presence. The difference is so big that if if someone would have told me the price of the EM6 were twice that of the EM4 I had not doubted it even for a single second. I suppose a true audiophile may prefer the EM4, but if listening to music is your priority, then there is no doubt in my mind that the EM6 is the king of CIEMs.

 

If you want to read more about my experiende of the EM4 (and EM6) click here (I actually posted in that thread just a few days ago, replying to average_joe), and I have started my very personal review of the EM6 here. I'm not very clinical when I write about sound, but I hope it is of some value to someone nevertheless.


Edited by Aero Dynamik - 11/27/12 at 12:44pm
post #86 of 89
Hi again Joe...after 3 days compared I just realize that EM4 is above TG334 in term of mid and treble smoothness, 334 is lack of treble energy the mid is to tick for my taste,  but I think in  imaging TG334 is a lot better  because it really creates 3D and more wide presentation...I just noticed that your threat title is Front & Center  which is really describe how is the imaging on EM4, my question is there any cable that can make soundstage on EM4 more seperate ?
Edited by miprasetya - 4/30/13 at 6:55am
post #87 of 89
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Hi again Joe...after 3 days compared I just realize that EM4 is above TG334 in term of mid and treble smoothness, 334 is lack of treble energy the mid is to tick for my taste,  but I think in  imaging TG334 is a lot better  because it really creates 3D and more wide presentation...I just noticed that your threat title is Front & Center  which is really describe how is the imaging on EM4, my question is there any cable that can make soundstage on EM4 more seperate ?

 

Hmmm, while I didn't do a direct comparison between the EM4 and TG334, the EM4 should be larger in soundstage size.  I does change with tracks and I believe the EM4 sound changes more with each track and source than the TG334.  I am interested to see if you opinion changes with well mastered live tracks or spacious electronic music and/or a high end source, if you haven't compared under those conditions.

post #88 of 89
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Originally Posted by Aero Dynamik View Post

I used to be an EM4 owner but had it rebuilt to EM6. The sound signature of the EM4, especially between 2 and 4 kHz was just too (razor) sharp for my taste. To make a long story short I would say first that the basic quality of the two is equal. However, the sound signatures are very different. With the EM4 the sound (all gamuts) appears to be born out of thin air, to appear from nothing (extremely clean). The EM6 has all the qualities of the EM4 but with a major plus, it allows you to easily envision/feel the source of the sound. The sound is endowed with body. You not only hear the song, but you can sense the presence of the singer too. This, for me, makes a world of difference. Perhaps the really low frequencies (30 to 20 Hz or so) of the EM4 were slightly easier hear, but the EM6 presents the bass with a whole lot more body and presence. The difference is so big that if if someone would have told me the price of the EM6 were twice that of the EM4 I had not doubted it even for a single second. I suppose a true audiophile may prefer the EM4, but if listening to music is your priority, then there is no doubt in my mind that the EM6 is the king of CIEMs.

 

If you want to read more about my experiende of the EM4 (and EM6) click here (I actually posted in that thread just a few days ago, replying to average_joe), and I have started my very personal review of the EM6 here. I'm not very clinical when I write about sound, but I hope it is of some value to someone nevertheless.

 

 

Completely agree with you... the EM6 has so many body in bass medium and treble region but without loosing the capability to give a lot of details when song demands it, very very musical, never to much technical but never lacking details at the same time... everything is extremely living/dynamic and real to my ears... more than the EM4 that from what I remember has less body, more "thin". 

 

Average_joe, I had Max from Earsonics on the phone telling me that he is getting in touch with you for you to "upgrade" your EM4 into EM6...I don't know if you'll do it but it would be so nice.... this EM6 has not the success it deserves yet... in France, they do..

post #89 of 89
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Completely agree with you... the EM6 has so many body in bass medium and treble region but without loosing the capability to give a lot of details when song demands it, very very musical, never to much technical but never lacking details at the same time... everything is extremely living/dynamic and real to my ears... more than the EM4 that from what I remember has less body, more "thin". 

 

Average_joe, I had Max from Earsonics on the phone telling me that he is getting in touch with you for you to "upgrade" your EM4 into EM6...I don't know if you'll do it but it would be so nice.... this EM6 has not the success it deserves yet... in France, they do..

 

Thanks for the assistance, I have been in contact with Max.  I may do an EM6 review in the future, but I need to get other reviews posted first before I take on anything new.

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