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post #9091 of 12887
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Originally Posted by Jwm48324 View Post

Has anyone noticed a difference in sound between line out or phone out with an external amp.


Yes, is that surprising to you? The HO is gonna sound different due to the amp section connected to that output. Even connecting my own portable T1 amp significantly changes the sound characteristics to my ears. It's more than just "sound". There are many aspects to sound.

post #9092 of 12887
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Originally Posted by OneTallGuy View Post

I have been reading the most recent articles in this forum every weekend for nearly 4 months. I have not read more than 25% of the articles prior to July. I have noted the sporadic mention of the HM-801 and HM-901 by HiFiMan as competitor to the Ibasso DX-100. I went to the Denver Audio Fest to listen to the DX-100 along with a long list of other headphone related items. Ibasso was not there, i.e. I could not find them nor were they listed in the show exhibitor book. I did find the HiFiMan exhibit and they were proudly showing the prototype HM-901. I spoke to a gentleman named Fang, and he happily claimed that this was the best portable sound source on the market. I asked him if he was familiar with the Ibasso DX-100. He said that Ibasso was a very small company and their product was insignificant in comparison to the HM-901. I plugged in my Future Sonics mg6pro in ear monitors and listened for perfection and expected to be overwhelmed. I even found one of the same albums on their large sample list as on my Motorola Droid X smart phone (one of my Nora Jones albums). The Droid X is my listening source, mp3's recorded at 170-210 kbps, I can not hear any difference compared to 220-260 kbps. (I do not know whether I was listening to WAV, MP3, or FLAC on the HM-901). I a/b’d the music on this album for over 20 minutes between the 2 different sound sources and I was, to put it nicely, underwhelmed. The HM-901 was less detailed in all frequency levels, more muddy, and generally flat sounding to me. The EQ was flat on both units. I greatly preferred my standard music program in the Droid X. This was highly surprising. I really was looking for an excuse to get an audiophile grade MP3 player. Without a free return policy on the Ibasso DX-100, I will not purchase an unheard unit, if the DX-100 is supposed to be comparable to the HiFiMan’s unit. Living in Oklahoma City, I guess I will never have this opportunity to hear one. OneTallGuy


Well in the end it's your loss OneTall. ibasso does have a return policy. Yes you'll have to cover shipping but that is the price you'd pay to demo the unit. Also you can't come to a conclusion with just a few hours of listening time. It don't work that way my friend. So many wrong impressions come from this and negatively impact others purchases based on flawed listening sessions. You can't expect to walk away with the full value of what something sounds like in a noisy environment with distractions everywhere a short listening period. Not even 2 hours is enough time. I had the AKG3003s for about 3 weeks and if I had only had them for a few hours I would not have though as highly of them as I do now. Note: I am in now way defending Fang as I even feel (not that is true) that his product will fail to beat the DX100, especially after 1.2.7 update. I really have no plans to sell my DX100 to upgrade either. The synergy I am getting with my DX100/T1/1Plus2 is absolutely amazing. So as I said you can take a small gamble and recover most of your costs besides shipping in the even the unit doesn't work out for you. Who knows maybe you may be blown away after you've spent time with it. I sure was. Or you can just forget about it and always wonder, what if? ;).


Edited by lee730 - 11/17/12 at 5:45pm
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i definitely understand what OneTall is talking about.

 

i personally tried DX100 and wasnt impressed with it as I had a Colorfly C4 at the time. 

 

the plus point i would say is its 64gb space with a possible addition of a memory card and its smaller than C4.

 

I could not find any reason to buy the DX100 though...

 

Ps. I have listened to the DX100 for over 30 hours to come to this conclusion, i used a number of IEMs too. 

post #9094 of 12887
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Originally Posted by chesterljh View Post

i definitely understand what OneTall is talking about.

 

i personally tried DX100 and wasnt impressed with it as I had a Colorfly C4 at the time. 

 

the plus point i would say is its 64gb space with a possible addition of a memory card and its smaller than C4.

 

I could not find any reason to buy the DX100 though...

 

Ps. I have listened to the DX100 for over 30 hours to come to this conclusion, i used a number of IEMs too. 


Was this on 1.2.7 firmware or the older firmwares?

post #9095 of 12887
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Originally Posted by chesterljh View Post

i definitely understand what OneTall is talking about.

 

i personally tried DX100 and wasnt impressed with it as I had a Colorfly C4 at the time. 

 

the plus point i would say is its 64gb space with a possible addition of a memory card and its smaller than C4.

 

I could not find any reason to buy the DX100 though...

 

Ps. I have listened to the DX100 for over 30 hours to come to this conclusion, i used a number of IEMs too. 

 

What firmware? The 1.2.7 is next level.  This might sound like an exaggeration, but I jumped from the 1.10 directly to the 1.2.7, and to my ears, the player sounds twice as good.

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Originally Posted by ChrisSC View Post

 

What firmware? The 1.2.7 is next level.  This might sound like an exaggeration, but I jumped from the 1.10 directly to the 1.2.7, and to my ears, the player sounds twice as good.


Yeah I'm a bit curious about that as well. The DX100 was always pretty good but not until 1.1.7 was I satisfied with the sound. Then 1.2.7 just took it to another level. Everything before 1.1.7 was honestly not even an improvement over my Studio V besides hiss.

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If it helps, iBasso has been one of the best companies I've dealt with - on three separate occasions now.

The DX is absolutely top notch - for me nothing else offers what it does at the same level. And the customer service is extremely good. They are a very small company and still respond quickly to email requests with actual information - not some faceless form response that larger companies routinely throw at you - they sent me an extra power adapter and backup batteries upon request for very little cost - try getting that from Apple.

I previously owned the HM-602 player and I would really advise not judging the DX (or any other high end DAP) based on time spent with the Hifiman sound.

If you really "need" a portable with the best possible sound, in my opinion, trying the DX is easily worth the price of return shipping.
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Was pretty interested from the way this thread was going... Finally had a chance to listen to it... Frankly I wasn't that impressed.

 

Thought that something's wrong with my ears until I checked out what the Chinese think...

 

The tear down wasn't too inspiring in relation to the cost... especially the Rockchip being used. The mod looks kinda interesting though...


Edited by justanut - 11/17/12 at 10:01pm
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Well I'm not really sure what more can be said lol. It just my ipod nor any ipod products compare to the sound I get from this unit. It's even comparable to my DACport LX/Triad L3 rig in terms of sound quality. I use it with my T1 amp and am floored how good it sounds. If I listen to anything less than my Studio V I am left disappointed in comparison. However if I just wanted background noise the iphone is more than enough. :P
 


Edited by lee730 - 11/17/12 at 10:11pm
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Originally Posted by justanut View Post

Was pretty interested from the way this thread was going... Finally had a chance to listen to it... Frankly I wasn't that impressed.

Thought that something's wrong with my ears until I checked out what the Chinese think...

The tear down wasn't too inspiring in relation to the cost... especially the Rockchip being used. The mod looks kinda interesting though...

Thank you very much for this information. Very interesting! smile.gif
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Ummm... The Studio V is... Well... Read here yourself >..<

 

Can probably applaud them for the work done with just a Sigmatel...


Edited by justanut - 11/17/12 at 10:24pm
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Ummm... The Studio V is... Well... Read here yourself >..<

 

Can probably applaud them for the work done with just a Sigmatel...


Can't argue there. Especially since it crushes my iphone4 (even amped) and former Sflo2. The newer unit is even better than the second generation one :). Still the DX100 is noticeably better than it but I still very much enjoy using the Studio V 3rd ANV with my IE80s. Battery life is second to none. The unit is quite durable and while the UI is very basic it is useable. Combining that with the superb sound quality I think it's a winner in its own right. Not perfect but moving in the right direction.


Edited by lee730 - 11/17/12 at 10:37pm
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Brought my DX100 to a local mini-meet yesterday and while most thought it was big (well... It is.) all agreed that it was the best DAP they had ever heard. I also got to try it as a transport into a M2Tech Young Dac feeding a Woo Wa6SE powering the HD800. Not bad, not bad at all.
post #9104 of 12887
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


Go into settings/ applications and clear Media Storage and Music player app. Then restart and let it reindex. Then everything should work again.

I had some trouble with the launcher after installing 1.27 and have to force close a few times for the player to launch. Try hitting the reset button on the side a few times but didn't help. Went into settings/applications and clear the data for media settings and Music player app, restarted the DX100 and can't get the launcher to sart again. This screen keep popping up after hitting the force close button:

 

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Tried rebooting, reset, and reinstall 1.27 update but still didn't work. Any help and assistance much appreciated.

 

Thanks.

post #9105 of 12887
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Originally Posted by holeout View Post

I had some trouble with the launcher after installing 1.27 and have to force close a few times for the player to launch. Try hitting the reset button on the side a few times but didn't help. Went into settings/applications and clear the data for media settings and Music player app, restarted the DX100 and can't get the launcher to sart again. This screen keep popping up after hitting the force close button:

 

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Tried rebooting, reset, and reinstall 1.27 update but still didn't work. Any help and assistance much appreciated.

 

Thanks.

You'll need this: http://www.ibasso.com/download/DX100%20tool.rar

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