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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post



The DX100 is a great source, whether as a transport to feed a DAC (did a good job with my AudioGD RE-7 DAC) or as a DAC through its line out jack to another amp.  I don't think you'd be missing much using the DX100 alone vs. with a desktop amp because its built in amp is incredibly competent and doesn't leave me wanting for much.


Peter, how does the DX100 as a stand alone unit compare to the coax out to the AudioGD RE-7 DAC and amp (Beta 22?) combo?  If you tell me they are similar, I don't know if I can wait till they release the 2nd batch, now where is my Ambien?

 

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Well, looks like I will be selling my iPhone 4 (currently using it as an iPod) and my HP-P1 since I couldn't resist pre-ordering the DX100.  Sure hope it's worth it and the Android OS is better than it was a few years ago.  I'm sure I'll love the sound without question.  

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Too hard to resist = resisting would take too much effort.   So the resisting is hard

 

Too easy to resist = the fruit is too easily picked for one to resist it.   So the fruit is too easy and consequently, why should one resist something so easy?

 

 

 

So in the first instance, it's the effort of resisting which is 'hard'

 

But in the second instance, it is the picking of the fruit which is too 'easy', and because the fruit is so easy, there is no motivation to resist something so easy.

 

It's a quirk of the English language that a sentence can be constructed which can have more than one meaning, depending on which of the words is emphasised whilst it is being read by the reader. Same words but different emphasis = different perceived meaning.


Hehehehe, Mython, Uelover, and Cooperpwc, you guys all remind me of a joke about three US presidents.  One said I can never tell a lie, the second said I can never tell the truth, the last one said I cannot the difference.  And it is the last one, the last one you guys remind of biggrin.gif

 

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Hehehehe, Mython, Uelover, and Cooperpwc, you guys all remind me of a joke about three US presidents.  One said I can never tell a lie, the second said I can never tell the truth, the last one said I cannot the difference.  And it is the last one, the last one you guys remind of biggrin.gif

 



Hahahaha!

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Originally Posted by Mython View Post

Too hard to resist = resisting would take too much effort. So the resisting is hard Too easy to resist = the fruit is too easily picked for one to resist it. So the fruit is too easy and consequently, why should one resist something so easy? So in the first instance, it's the effort of resisting which is 'hard' But in the second instance, it is the picking of the fruit which is too 'easy', and because the fruit is so easy, there is no motivation to resist something so easy. It's a quirk of the English language that a sentence can be constructed which can have more than one meaning, depending on which of the words is emphasised whilst it is being read by the reader. Same words but different emphasis = different perceived meaning.

The vicar said the curate is a swine.

Try playing with emphasis in that one wink.gif
Edited by nc8000 - 2/10/12 at 10:28pm
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So, I can't wait. How much better is this and have I just wasted a plenty of bucks ?


I've got the Table of Disappointment at my house.  It houses a S:flo2 (fail UI), a bunch of handheld video game systems (short attention span), and a vast array of portable gear.  The DX100 isn't going there, but it could replace everything on the table.  

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Originally Posted by Jalo View Post


Peter, how does the DX100 as a stand alone unit compare to the coax out to the AudioGD RE-7 DAC and amp (Beta 22?) combo?  If you tell me they are similar, I don't know if I can wait till they release the 2nd batch, now where is my Ambien?

 


I"ll give it a quick runthrough right now with the LCD3 then edit this post.  Remember, the full home setup is $6000 and is 150 pounds of loot, so a bit of an unfair comparison...  I think the O2 and DX100 are in the same class of clean neutral sound as a B22 system with a good source and PCM1704UK based DAC, the B22 just provides more power, more headroom, more of the good stuff.  But there's a strong resemblence and you get a lot of the same enjoyment, in that the sound is clean and uncolored at least to me.  The B22 system is just a bit more thrilling and intense because of the extra power that you can really feel.  

 

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I"ll give it a quick runthrough right now with the LCD3 then edit this post.  Remember, the full home setup is $6000 and is 150 pounds of loot, so a bit of an unfair comparison...  I think the O2 and DX100 are in the same class of clean neutral sound as a B22 system with a good source and PCM1704UK based DAC, the B22 just provides more power, more headroom, more of the good stuff.  But there's a strong resemblence and you get a lot of the same enjoyment, in that the sound is clean and uncolored at least to me.  The B22 system is just a bit more thrilling and intense because of the extra power that you can really feel.  

 

Peter, the last I check my full portable set up is not far from that $6,000.00.  So I expect no less ;-)
 

 

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The vicar said the curate is a swine.
Try playing with emphasis in that one wink.gif


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Hokey dokey, that's enough ... let's get back to the subject ...

 

You know, half of these 844 posts are OT and so are many other threads. You joined the forum only a month ago and already screaming "let's get back to the subject"?  You may loose your voice by the end of next month biggrin.gif  For me I really enjoy the humor in many of these posts.  We are just friendly people trying to have some fun with each other.  The original DX100 thread had over 2000 posts before the darn thing is released.  More than half of those posts are BS since no one has heard of it. We just try to humor each other to pass the time.  Nothing against you though just stating the facts wink.gif

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Well, looks like I will be selling my iPhone 4 (currently using it as an iPod) and my HP-P1 since I couldn't resist pre-ordering the DX100.  Sure hope it's worth it and the Android OS is better than it was a few years ago.  I'm sure I'll love the sound without question.  



Don't you use your phone though as a phone? I'm still keeping my baby but never use it for music lol.

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Did some comparisons back and forth with just one track to get a really good feel.  The DX100 is an amazing transport, first off...so transparent; people should really consider it even with a superexpensive DAC, since it can compete favorably with a lot of other sources (my Audiophilleo and my QLS QA350 wav player come to mind).  It has an obviously better UI and more formats than the QLS, and the AP1 is considerably more expensive although it's part of a less integrated laptop setup which depending on one's needs could be better or worse (being able to take your transport to go in your pocket is a plus but not everyone needs that).

 

The DX100 direct with LCD3 is really enjoyable.  The sound is quite expansive and transparent with plenty of layers and microdetail.  The B22/RE7 added to the mix forces every bit of microdetail to the surface which gives even more realism.  Still, it's stupid how good the DX100 is for being the size that it is.  It has a whole lot of the B22's authority and at times really shocks me, like hey it is performing on almost the same level.  Other times the B22 is so incredibly impressive that it's hard to compare anything to it.  I will say this, you'll never hear a portable system like the DX100, not for a long time, if ever.  It makes me forget the B22 exists, and I have to plug into the Beta to remember that the B22 is the last word for me in sound, although I have not tried nearly as many amps as some headfiers...I'm the guy who drove a Ferrari off the lot early on without test driving everything, I really only have the Phoenix, M3, and O2 to mentally compare it to.  

 

Would I be saying too much if I said the DX100 has 70-75% of the enjoyability of the home setup?  I think that's what I'm comfortable with saying at this point.  Some songs the B22 really takes it home, other songs the iBasso is so good that it's more of a tossup.  But once again, it is not a remotely fair comparison.  There's four boards, a huge power supply, and 3 flavors of transistor in the B22...behind eight pieces of PCM1704UK chips and four current output stages in the DAC.  The iBasso has one competitive advantage though - integration.  It is seamless between the files, the operating system, the digital output to the DAC, the DAC's analog connections through the multilayer circuit board to the amplifier.  Cables are no issue, no cables can compete with a clean circuit board layout.  Cables and separated components do offer physical isolation between the parts, but they have plenty of disadvantages.  

 

The DX100 is a no brainer.  The best proof of its value I can give is that I actually want to spend time with it, and it holds my interest, since the sound is in the same class as good desktop systems, to where I don't feel disappointed when I listen, like I'm missing out on a lot.  It has to be the most luxurious toy I've ever used in terms of the perfect sound that comes out of something so small.  I'm an insanely busy person but I'm still making time for the DX100 every day, I love it.

 

Going to test it again with the DB2 PB2 added into the mix, for laughs, in a sec.

 

Edit:  And you'll know I've put a ring on it when all my cables have mini plugs on it instead of 6 pin iBasso...won't be long.


Edited by scootermafia - 2/10/12 at 11:19pm
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Originally Posted by ljuk View Post

No offence fella ...


No worry, btw, we specifically omitting the U in humor just to humor those of us that do not find the U in humor and of course by the time you realize the U is gone, the humor is gone also wink.gif

 

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Didn't we set a Guinness world record for the most off topic posts pre item release lol? (100 pages).

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You know, half of these 844 posts are OT and so are many other threads. You joined the forum only a month ago and already screaming "let's get back to the subject"?  You may loose your voice by the end of next month biggrin.gif  For me I really enjoy the humor in many of these posts.  We are just friendly people trying to have some fun with each other.  The original DX100 thread had over 2000 posts before the darn thing is released.  More than half of those posts are BS since no one has heard of it. We just try to humor each other to pass the time.  Nothing against you though just stating the facts wink.gif



 

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Knowing my luck though...if this ever happens...

 

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