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post #6736 of 12660
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

Maybe you have the J3 tuned exactly to the sound you love, so comparing with the DX100, the DX100 will sound off? The J3 is very good, but I honestly believe the DX100 to be better, allthough we are well into the territory of The Law Of Diminishing Returns. I see you have a set of Ultrasone Pro 900 in your signature - Have you tried A/B'ing something punchy (my fave is "Take The Power Back" by Rage Against The Machine) with those on your J3 and the DX100? I found the Pro 900 (and Pro 2900) will sound nice out of almost anything but will be happy to guzzle up any and all power you throw at them and turning it into slam.


Also try Closer from nine inch nails. The bass texture is to die for and should be very apparent over your J3.

post #6737 of 12660

My problem has got even more strange now....after more messing around trying different things to get this track to display correctly, I have noticed that when i hover my mouse over the file on my pc the details that auto show, show the problem within the Artist field, even though when you view/edit the meta data it shows correctly!!!

 

I do not understand whats going on here....I deleted all the meta data, re did it, and still the same thing has happend!

 

Ive also re-ripped using meta data from a diifferent source, and yet again when i hover my mouse over the file it is showing incorrectly!!!!

Picture 14.jpg

 

If I make the artist with 3 "I"s then it shows correctly IE Soul III Soul !!!

 

As soon as i remove the 3rd "I" then it goes back to "Ii"


Edited by surfer1000 - 7/6/12 at 3:00am
post #6738 of 12660
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Originally Posted by surfer1000 View Post

My problem has got even more strange now....after more messing around trying different things to get this track to display correctly, I have noticed that when i hover my mouse over the file on my pc the details that auto show, show the problem within the Artist field, even though when you view/edit the meta data it shows correctly!!!

 

I do not understand whats going on here....I deleted all the meta data, re did it, and still the same thing has happend!

 

Ive also re-ripped using meta data from a diifferent source, and yet again when i hover my mouse over the file it is showing incorrectly!!!!

Picture 14.jpg

 

If I make the artist with 3 "I"s then it shows correctly IE Soul III Soul !!!

 

As soon as i remove the 3rd "I" then it goes back to "Ii"

 

Why not just name it Soul 2 soul or Soul two soul to just solve the issue. If it's just one track then get over it. I have a few problem tracks on other devices where I had to make compromises. On the Studio V there are a certain select tracks where I had to expand them to WAV to prevent clipping.

post #6739 of 12660
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

 

Why not just name it Soul 2 soul or Soul two soul to just solve the issue. If it's just one track then get over it. I have a few problem tracks on other devices where I had to make compromises. On the Studio V there are a certain select tracks where I had to expand them to WAV to prevent clipping.

 

Well as previously posted, It's not just one track, and yes there are ways "around" the problem, but I would still like to get to the bottom of it as it's just plain weired!

 

So far I have found the problem with :-

 

Alexander O'neal (Should be capital N)

Soul II Soul (my test example)

Maddona's new album MDNA, shows as...can you guess ? Mdna

SWV (Sisters with Voices).....Swv

UB40...Ub40

post #6740 of 12660
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

Maybe you have the J3 tuned exactly to the sound you love, so comparing with the DX100, the DX100 will sound off? The J3 is very good, but I honestly believe the DX100 to be better, allthough we are well into the territory of The Law Of Diminishing Returns. I see you have a set of Ultrasone Pro 900 in your signature - Have you tried A/B'ing something punchy (my fave is "Take The Power Back" by Rage Against The Machine) with those on your J3 and the DX100? I found the Pro 900 (and Pro 2900) will sound nice out of almost anything but will be happy to guzzle up any and all power you throw at them and turning it into slam.

 

Having spent more time with the DX100 and not being able to wait the 300hrs I have started to A\B with the J3.

The one track that really started this whole ball rolling for me still doesn't sound quite right on the DX100 - the backstroke of nails on the acoustic guitar strings still sound more real on the J3.

 

Even though I haven't been initially floored by the DX100, I have to admit that there is something indefinably nice about the sound out of the DX100.

The DX100 has a noticeably larger and more 3D sound stage as I mentioned initially, but I have also noticed that the instruments seem to have more weight and impact. I think as I listen more, I will begin to pick out the little nuances which overall make for a sweeter sound.

 

Maybe this whole episode has identified my lack of experience with higher end amps and dacs and that my expectations were set so high, that I was expecting to be left a quivering mess as soon as I fired up the DX100?

 

Also perhaps the JH16 aren't the perfect match for the DX100? I'll check out the track you mentioned on the Pro900....and maybe even look at an upgrade to my cans.

 

Perhaps this is all part of the audiophile journey!

 

BTW does anyone know what the 3 levels of gain are for? I have mine set to Mid for my JH16

post #6741 of 12660
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


Also try Closer from nine inch nails. The bass texture is to die for and should be very apparent over your J3.


I'll definitely try that out. nine inch nails have been on my "to check out" list...just never seem to have got around to them...this will be the perfect excuse wink_face.gif

 

Maybe we should have another thread "Tracks that show off the DX100" ?

post #6742 of 12660

Another thing I'm finding strange is this!

 

When you do a search for “Artist” for example, when you find/select the Artist it then brings up the Album that the song has come from and if it’s a compilation album then you have all the songs from various artists listed!..thats not really how things should be ?

 

 

Example

 

I’ve used the search at the top of default player to search for “The Village People”....when I select this it then goes to showing “Sylvester” (another artist) next to the artist icon, with then the album icon indented in from that, with the album listed that the song from the village people is on.

 

So then you select the album shown, which then goes onto list all the tracks on that album, but really it should only show the Villiage people track of YMCA not all tracks by all artists on that album.


Edited by surfer1000 - 7/6/12 at 3:59am
post #6743 of 12660

I'd like to know exactly what the gain switch does as well, all it seems to do here is alter the loudness of the player

 

Im sure it something more technical to do with the ohm of the amp, but how do we find out exactly what lo mid hi change so we can match to our headphones correctly ?


Edited by surfer1000 - 7/6/12 at 4:02am
post #6744 of 12660
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Originally Posted by kryten123 View Post

Also perhaps the JH16 aren't the perfect match for the DX100? I'll check out the track you mentioned on the Pro900....and maybe even look at an upgrade to my cans.

 

Perhaps this is all part of the audiophile journey!

 

BTW does anyone know what the 3 levels of gain are for? I have mine set to Mid for my JH16

I've found the DX100 to get the best out of any and all headphones I've tried it with but I've never had the pleasure of the JH16 I'm afraid. Given the output impedance of the DX100 is less than 0.1ohm there should be no problems with complex multi-BA designs.

 

I'm using low gain for IEMs and medium gain for the Pro 900. I only use high gain with the HD650, HE-400 and similar "heavy" cans  smile.gif

post #6745 of 12660
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Originally Posted by kryten123 View Post


I'll definitely try that out. nine inch nails have been on my "to check out" list...just never seem to have got around to them...this will be the perfect excuse wink_face.gif

 

Maybe we should have another thread "Tracks that show off the DX100" ?

Also try out "Everyday is exactly the same". Those 2 songs are my all time favorite of them. Then again I have their entire discography in lossless and still haven't found time to listen to them thoroughly ;).

post #6746 of 12660
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Originally Posted by surfer1000 View Post

I'd like to know exactly what the gain switch does as well, all it seems to do here is alter the loudness of the player

 

Im sure it something more technical to do with the ohm of the amp, but how do we find out exactly what lo mid hi change so we can match to our headphones correctly ?


I've found raising the gain tends to brings things closer, more upfront. Especially vocals. So with a can that I'd like the vocals to be more upfront this seems to do the trick.

post #6747 of 12660
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


I've found raising the gain tends to brings things closer, more upfront. Especially vocals. So with a can that I'd like the vocals to be more upfront this seems to do the trick.

Mightbe due to the volume change. Different volume levels usually mean subtle changes in souns signature.Higher gain shouldn't affect sound in any way otherthan raising volume (and raising the noise floor). To all, keep the gain on low unless you can't get the cans to a loud enough volume. Keeps the noise down. Think of gain like a secondary volume control that should only be used if the first volume achieve can't achieve the desired volume.
post #6748 of 12660

Could be but it does seem to have that effect, and allows for some tweaking of the volume. I generally keep it on low or medium gain if I feel things aren't in place.
 

post #6749 of 12660
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Originally Posted by kryten123 View Post

Also perhaps the JH16 aren't the perfect match for the DX100?...

 

...BTW does anyone know what the 3 levels of gain are for? I have mine set to Mid for my JH16

 

I don't know if this helps...but the JH13 has excellent synergy with the DX100....the best I've ever heard them sound, and that's saying a lot.

 

I use mid level gain for my JH13's, but low gain would be normal to use as well with IEM's.  Select the gain that gives you the volume, volume adjustability, and level of hiss you prefer.   Proper gain matching to eliminate hiss is less of an issue with the DX100 as it appears to be hiss free at all gain levels with all headphones I have tried.

post #6750 of 12660
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Originally Posted by wolfen68 View Post

 

I don't know if this helps...but the JH13 has excellent synergy with the DX100....the best I've ever heard them sound, and that's saying a lot.

 

I use mid level gain for my JH13's, but low gain would be normal to use as well with IEM's.  Select the gain that gives you the volume, volume adjustability, and level of hiss you prefer.   Proper gain matching to eliminate hiss is less of an issue with the DX100 as it appears to be hiss free at all gain levels with all headphones I have tried.

 

Hmm? So you don't hear any hiss on the DX100 when you up the gain? I can hear a very slight hiss on medium gain and a very audible hiss on high gain with my IE80s. For what it's worth, its not an issue during music playback.

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