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post #4621 of 11661
4/13/12 at 7:46am
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I know that wma is prone to errors (unrecoverable errors) as its not as stable as others esp. ape and flac.

 



Thankyou. If that's true, then there is no value in trying to save 5-10% space by transcoding my FLACs and ALACs to WMA. I'll make do with the slight storage space disadvantage.

 

All the best

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post #4622 of 11661
4/13/12 at 7:46am
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Get the Fostex TH900.

I will, thanks for the advice.

Please send 23 barrels of oil. I'll pm you my address. wink.gif
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post #4623 of 11661
4/13/12 at 7:48am
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Get the Fostex TH900.

I will, thanks for the advice.

Please send 23 barrels of oil. I'll pm you my address. wink.gif


 

Hey, I said between us.......wink_face.gif.

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post #4624 of 11661
4/13/12 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by bmiamihk View Post


NOT PORTABLE!



 



I Use it as a transportable rig, Its either sitting on my desk at work or sitting on my coffee table. Everything fits into my Beyerdynamic Case so its pretty east to tote around. Sounds great too.

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post #4625 of 11661
4/13/12 at 7:50am

From http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison:

@ Mython; I think I was mistaken as the chart claims!

 

Features FLAC WavPack TAK Monkey's OptimFROG ALAC WMA
Encoding speed fast very fast very fast fast slow average average
Decoding speed very fast very fast very fast average average fast average
Compression* 58.70% 58.0% 57.0% 55.50% 54.70% 58.50% 56.30%
Flexibility** very good very good very good very good very good bad bad
 
Error handling yes yes yes no yes   yes
Seeking yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
Tagging Vorbis tags ID3/APE APEv2 (exp.) ID3/APE ID3/APE iTunes ASF
Hardware support very good limited no limited no good limited
Software support very good good average good average average good
Hybrid/lossy no yes no no yes no no
ReplayGain yes yes yes no yes sort of no
RIFF chunks yes yes   yes yes   no
Streaming yes yes yes no yes yes yes
Pipe support yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
Open source yes yes no yes no yes (third-party) no
Multichannel yes yes no no no yes yes
High resolution yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
OS support All All Win/Linux Wine All Win/Mac/Linux All Win/Mac

(table continued below)

Features Shorten LA TTA LPAC MPEG-4 ALS MPEG-4 SLS Real Lossless
Encoding speed very fast slow very fast average average slow slow
Decoding speed very fast slow fast fast fast slow fast
Compression* 63.50% 53.50% 57.10% 57.20% 57.10%  ? 57.0%
Flexibility** bad average bad bad very good bad bad
 
Error handling no no yes no yes yes  
Seeking yes yes yes slow yes yes yes
Tagging no ID3v1 ID3 no yes yes proprietary
Hardware support limited no limited no no no no
Software support very good bad average average bad bad bad
Hybrid/lossy no no no no no yes no
ReplayGain no no yes no yes yes no
RIFF chunks yes yes no yes      
Streaming no   no no yes yes yes
Pipe support yes yes no       no
Open source yes no yes no yes yes no
Multichannel no no yes no yes yes no
High resolution no no yes yes yes yes no
OS support All Win/Linux All Win/Linux/Sol All All Win/Mac/Linux
 

 


Edited by turokrocks - 4/13/12 at 7:57am
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post #4626 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:08am

No matter; more importantly, thankyou for the chart, it's EXACTLY what I needed!

 

And interestingly, if you look at the compression percentage of FLAC vs. WMA, it does not support my notion (gleaned from the difference in file sizes apparent on the Linn downloads) that WMA offers a higher compression percentage, so it seems WMA is a moot point for me anyway.

 

Thanks, you've solved my issue; I'll stick with mostly FLAC along with some ALAC (I'm sometimes lazy and use my old mac to rip directly within iTunes - yes, I know I should be jumping onto Windows and using EACs superior error correction) wink_face.gif

 

 

Anyway cheers for the useful info/chart!

 

beerchug.gif

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post #4627 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:13am


I did demo the 801 and also borrowed it. I did not get to hear it with the other aditionally priced amps. Actually with the stock amp I had it at full volume so power was lacking. The upgrade amps will make the 801 cost more then the DX100. Also the 801 did NOT sound as good as the DX100 but it DID sound nice. Another issue would be the material of the 801 which is Plastic TOY material.
 

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You will be pleasantly surprised of 801 sound, if you have a chance to do a serious audition. Don't look at 24/96 and 24/192 difference, as C4 can play 24/192 music as well but 801 sounds alot better than both C4 and 801. The 2 pieces of PCM1704U-K remains the potent DAC that produced very smooth and analogue sound, yet very micro details if you use the balanced or GAME amp module. PCM1704U-K chip has been known as the best DAC ever produced, and can compete easily with the newer modern digital chip of DX100.

 

BTW, how did you know that I am using the Crystal Piccolino cable for my JH16? With this combination, 801 sounds clearer and smoother than DX100.

 

Happy to let you test it if you are in KL Malaysia.
 



 



 

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post #4628 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post

No matter; more importantly, thankyou for the chart, it's EXACTLY what I needed!

 

And interestingly, if you look at the compression percentage of FLAC vs. WMA, it does not support my notion (gleaned from the difference in file sizes apparent on the Linn downloads) that WMA offers a higher compression percentage, so it seems WMA is a moot point for me anyway.

 

Thanks, you've solved my issue; I'll stick with mostly FLAC along with some ALAC (I'm sometimes lazy and use my old mac to rip directly within iTunes - yes, I know I should be jumping onto Windows and using EACs superior error correction) wink_face.gif

 

 

Anyway cheers for the useful info/chart!

 

beerchug.gif



 

Glad I was helpful, I need someone to tell my Girlbiggrin.gif.


Edited by turokrocks - 4/13/12 at 8:18am
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post #4629 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:18am
The 801 is not plastic but metal, some aluminium alloy like material. I've had the 801 with the balanced amp module and still have the C4 and will get to audition 2 different dx100 next week. Of the 801 (balanced amp) and C4, the 801 is probably the better product but I personally prefer the C4 experience.
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post #4630 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:24am
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Glad, I was helpful, I need someone to tell my Girlbiggrin.gif.


Good idea! Let's all send her an email detailing how Turok amazingly donates sooo much of his time ready to lend a hand to everyone on Head-Fi ...

What's her address?
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post #4631 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by fanboy2012 View Post

You will be pleasantly surprised of 801 sound, if you have a chance to do a serious audition. Don't look at 24/96 and 24/192 difference, as C4 can play 24/192 music as well but 801 sounds alot better than both C4 and 801. The 2 pieces of PCM1704U-K remains the potent DAC that produced very smooth and analogue sound, yet very micro details if you use the balanced or GAME amp module. PCM1704U-K chip has been known as the best DAC ever produced, and can compete easily with the newer modern digital chip of DX100.

 

BTW, how did you know that I am using the Crystal Piccolino cable for my JH16? With this combination, 801 sounds clearer and smoother than DX100.

 

Happy to let you test it if you are in KL Malaysia.
 

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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

I doubt very much if HiFiMan is sonically superior than the DX100. The HiFiMan 801 was tuned using a $3000 CDp. The DX100 sounds as good if not better than a $3k CDp. And on 24/96 and 24/192 it is comparable to $10k CDp playing Red Book.

 

The DX100, at present has the highest resolution of any DAP available, manipulate this signal to your advantage. You want a nice euphonic, smooth and organic sound get some Crystal Piccolinos and appropriate CANs or IEMs. If you are hearing from the HiFMan as much detail as the DX100, then the problem lies in your Head/Ear phones........  

 

 



 



 


I'm not sure if C4 is playing 24bit/192khz files bit for bit according to this review,

http://www.headfonia.com/colorfly-c4/2

Unless there was an Update to the player since then.
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post #4632 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:29am
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Glad, I was helpful, I need someone to tell my Girlbiggrin.gif.

 



Good idea! Let's all send her an email detailing how Turok amazingly donates sooo much of his time ready to lend a hand to everyone on Head-Fi ...

What's her address?


 

What, no you are ruining it,...why you hate me..., first with Tony and now with my Girl! whose next?

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post #4633 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:30am



Looks and felt like plastic

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Originally Posted by nc8000 View Post

The 801 is not plastic but metal, some aluminium alloy like material. I've had the 801 with the balanced amp module and still have the C4 and will get to audition 2 different dx100 next week. Of the 801 (balanced amp) and C4, the 801 is probably the better product but I personally prefer the C4 experience.


 

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post #4634 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:34am

Hope you can give your take on the DX100 and compare it to the 801 and C4. The C4 sounded ok but the volume control sucks and no EQ.
 

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Originally Posted by nc8000 View Post

The 801 is not plastic but metal, some aluminium alloy like material. I've had the 801 with the balanced amp module and still have the C4 and will get to audition 2 different dx100 next week. Of the 801 (balanced amp) and C4, the 801 is probably the better product but I personally prefer the C4 experience.


 

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post #4635 of 11661
4/13/12 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by bmiamihk View Post

Hope you can give your take on the DX100 and compare it to the 801 and C4. The C4 sounded ok but the volume control sucks and no EQ.
 



 


HM901 is just around the corner...ph34r.gif

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