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Guys it sounds fine to describe the sound of the DX100, but until someone compare to some known entity, we still won't know how good this thing is. The followings are some popular set ups or systems on headfi and we will all know how good the DX100 is if there are some comparisons done:
iPod/CLAS/
iPod/foster
Pb2/DB2
DB2/SR71b
Is there a clear improvement of hires stuffs over 16/44.1? Does anyone has the same track recorded in different resolution and can do a comparison and note the difference?
I am very curious if I coax out of the DX100 into DB2/PB2 or SR71b and go full balance to JH13/LCD/HD800 or any other popular phones, will it sound better than the DX100 in SE mode?
We all live vicariously through you until the DX100 is available again. Thanks for so accommodating to our requests.I don't think it's smart to use the iBasso as a transport into other DACs. Besides the fact that lengthening the signal chain is bad, the ESS9018 chip in the iBasso is higher end than the chips in the Boomslang2. I mean I can try it...later today.
The review from Thailand that Turokrocks linked in the other thread has a screen grab with some of the same tracks playing that were on my DX100. It's possible they put these tracks in a big folder into each DX100 to test them by hand (especially important since these first 40 are "review units" and they want them to be perfect, since the real nutters are who bought them first...and forgot to format a few people's units.
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Aiff does not work. There's no reason not to convert all your aiff files to wav as the formats are very similar and the conversion is very fast. You can select files from iTunes (at least on a mac) and drag them onto the Finder window with the iBasso drive mounted and it will copy them over, just as you can do this to drag specific files referenced by iTunes and copy them to any folder. Perhaps iBasso can add aiff support, I don't see why not. There are lots of player programs for android and probably some of them can do aiff. I have a video playing app, Moboplayer, that does great with mkv, xvid, mp4, what have you.I don't think that the iBasso has a USB conversion chip inside it. It takes a specific chip like the PCM2706 to convert USB into a usable digital format. So, it is probably a pipe dream, the idea of iBasso adding USB DAC capability later (although I'm sure at this point they could revise the DX100 and add it if they wanted to), so it's smartest to just put all your computer's music onto the iBasso rather than being tethered to a computer anyway.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jalo
Guys it sounds fine to describe the sound of the DX100, but until someone compare to some known entity, we still won't know how good this thing is. The followings are some popular set ups or systems on headfi and we will all know how good the DX100 is if there are some comparisons done:
iPod/CLAS/
iPod/foster
Pb2/DB2
DB2/SR71b
Is there a clear improvement of hires stuffs over 16/44.1? Does anyone has the same track recorded in different resolution and can do a comparison and note the difference?
I am very curious if I coax out of the DX100 into DB2/PB2 or SR71b and go full balance to JH13/LCD/HD800 or any other popular phones, will it sound better than the DX100 in SE mode?
We all live vicariously through you until the DX100 is available again. Thanks for so accommodating to our requests.
As I own all of the iBasso amps, I would have to say that the SQ of the DX100 is right up at the top, although I can't say whether that is the result of the high-quality DAC or the internal amplifier. I have not yet tried using DX100 outputs with any of my other amps. I have also compared it to another highly-regarded DAP that I own and the DX100 comes out on top by a large margin, both in quality of construction, features, UI and, most of all, SQ.
I do not wish to name other manufacturers products used in my comparisons. As my opinions are only subjective early impressions, of course YMMV.post #155 of 116581/24/12 at 3:46pmAgreed. the DX100 should be revised such that it can be used as a portable DAC out as well. I REALLY hope iBasso adds AIFF support to the DX100, most of my music is in AIFF and it would be a pain for me to convert and store them separately in WAV. There's no reason why the DX100 cannot accept AIFF and its going to be a big deal to many Mac users here.
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Munkong from Thailand has just shared his experience of his demo unit and mentioned that
it is the best DAP in terms of sound quality. He used the DX100 with his his Grado HF2 and will
try with the PS1000, LCD2, LCD3 and other headphones today.
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Quote:Originally Posted by scootermafia
Aiff does not work. There's no reason not to convert all your aiff files to wav as the formats are very similar and the conversion is very fast. You can select files from iTunes (at least on a mac) and drag them onto the Finder window with the iBasso drive mounted and it will copy them over, just as you can do this to drag specific files referenced by iTunes and copy them to any folder. Perhaps iBasso can add aiff support, I don't see why not. There are lots of player programs for android and probably some of them can do aiff. I have a video playing app, Moboplayer, that does great with mkv, xvid, mp4, what have you.I don't think that the iBasso has a USB conversion chip inside it. It takes a specific chip like the PCM2706 to convert USB into a usable digital format. So, it is probably a pipe dream, the idea of iBasso adding USB DAC capability later (although I'm sure at this point they could revise the DX100 and add it if they wanted to), so it's smartest to just put all your computer's music onto the iBasso rather than being tethered to a computer anyway.
Okay thanks for checking - not a problem converting to WAV, just not wanting to convert too many times as each additional conversion strips away some of the resolution. I can go into itunes and switch from aiff to wav without a problem. Just out of curiosity, does the built in EQ add or subtract from the presentation.post #158 of 116581/24/12 at 4:11pmIbasso is smoking something.$700.00 review units then a price increase to 829.00? Everyone that gets ahold of an ess9018 thinks they can get stupid with pricing!!post #159 of 116581/24/12 at 4:19pmQuote:Originally Posted by scootermafia
I don't think it's smart to use the iBasso as a transport into other DACs. Besides the fact that lengthening the signal chain is bad, the ESS9018 chip in the iBasso is higher end than the chips in the Boomslang2. I mean I can try it...later today.
The review from Thailand that Turokrocks linked in the other thread has a screen grab with some of the same tracks playing that were on my DX100. It's possible they put these tracks in a big folder into each DX100 to test them by hand (especially important since these first 40 are "review units" and they want them to be perfect, since the real nutters are who bought them first...and forgot to format a few people's units.
If that is the case, enjoy track 06 Moonlight Sonata.
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The only reason might be for someone who wants to run balanced through the whole chain.
I can see the reasoning behind not having it set up as a USB DAC. It's a media player. You can use it to store your music, play your music, output your music to another DAC-AMP system. Using it as a USB DAC means having another player playing through this one. For a company that has all kinds of portable amps and DACs already available this setup doesn't make much sense and I agree with them. If you can't have everything shoved into one box (owing to size, weight,cost, whatever considerations), losing the USB DAC seems a logical step.post #161 of 116581/24/12 at 6:45pm- nycdoi
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man, i wish ibasso can keep the price at 699.
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Slightly OT, but... Not knowing the innards of how iBasso got their music player to work under Android, but it's a shame that they had (or chose) to integrate it so tightly with a specific version of Android. I'm sure there are apps that someone might want to use on the DX100, but can't because the app isn't compatible with that older version of Android. Seems like it undercuts some of the advantages of using Android on the dap.
On the other hand, my cc keeps walking around my desk wanting to be used...

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Don't get me wrong: I think this device definitely moves dap tech forward, and I understand that developers always have to make choices. So I'm not indicating this as a reason not to buy one - just making an observation.post #165 of 116581/24/12 at 7:59pm- HiFlight
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWbirdseye
Okay thanks for checking - not a problem converting to WAV, just not wanting to convert too many times as each additional conversion strips away some of the resolution. I can go into itunes and switch from aiff to wav without a problem. Just out of curiosity, does the built in EQ add or subtract from the presentation.
If I understand your question correctly, the DX100 EQ does both. The default EQ setting is halfway between minimum and maximum values on all bands. As one clicks the various preset EQ options, the choice is shown on the 8-band equalizer. On each setting, some of the bands are above and some are below the default setting (which is labelled "Custom")Return HomeBack to Forum: Portable Source Gear- iBasso DX100:24 bit for bit, PG 1> Reviews & Impressions, Downloads, VIDEO, NEW Firmware 1.4.2.
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