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Feb 8, 2013 at 4:44 AM Post #10,501 of 13,503
So I keep eyeing this up. Very tempted. I am however concerned that my Klipsch Image x10's aren't really good enough to do one of these justice (no real concerns over the Mr Speakers Mad Dogs though). Would I need to upgrade my in ears to really benefit from one of these?
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 4:47 AM Post #10,502 of 13,503
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So I keep eyeing this up. Very tempted. I am however concerned that my Klipsch Image x10's aren't really good enough to do one of these justice (no real concerns over the Mr Speakers Mad Dogs though). Would I need to upgrade my in ears to really benefit from one of these?

The DX100 doesn't need high-end headphones - It'll make whatever you have sound it's best 
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I've been listening almost exclusively to the (relatively) reasonably priced Beyer DT770AE this week and it sounds great from the DX100. 
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 4:52 AM Post #10,503 of 13,503
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The DX100 doesn't need high-end headphones - It'll make whatever you have sound it's best 
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I've been listening almost exclusively to the (relatively) reasonably priced Beyer DT770AE this week and it sounds great from the DX100. 


I would agree.
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 5:05 AM Post #10,504 of 13,503
With the reports about changes in SQ between different firmwares, I am really curious as to how that is possible considering what was being fixed.
I'd like to know why iBasso would go anywhere near the sound when fixing the previous bugs....are "we" sure its not just placebo?
 
I'm on 1.2.7 currently and will upgrade over the weekend and see whether I can hear these differences....
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 5:09 AM Post #10,505 of 13,503
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With the reports about changes in SQ between different firmwares, I am really curious as to how that is possible considering what was being fixed.
I'd like to know why iBasso would go anywhere near the sound when fixing the previous bugs....are "we" sure its not just placebo?
 
I'm on 1.2.7 currently and will upgrade over the weekend and see whether I can hear these differences....

Check out the 1.2.3 FW - They botched the calls to the ESS chip on that one so especially the bass got all muddy and boomy.
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 5:16 AM Post #10,506 of 13,503
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Check out the 1.2.3 FW - They botched the calls to the ESS chip on that one so especially the bass got all muddy and boomy.


Think it was before my time - Were they trying to fix a SQ issue there?
 
I assumed that they would setup the chip <this way> and then just make calls to the <this way> and never have to make calls to individual parts of the chip....or am I being too simplistic?
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 6:41 AM Post #10,507 of 13,503
Hello guys,
 
Since I have spent a lot of time making playlists work on the DX100 (since I always use playlists, I absolutely need them to work), here are a few things I noticed that could be useful to some:
 
  • Playlists that you created outside of the DX100 (for instance on Mediamonkey) are still reversed on the DX100, even with 1.3.7. You can remedy this temporarily by creating reversed playlists on Mediamonkey (put all the songs in the playlist in the "now playing" window and then do "edit" and "reversed list" and then paste back in you playlist
  • If you edit you playlist manually, you can simplify them : all folders on the DX100 flash can be put as "\folder name" and all folders on the sd card can be put as "\sd card\folder name". You can erase all driver names
  • Sometimes some playlists will not appear. I found one of the possible reasons: if a playlists STARTS with tracks that are located on the sd card, and that you place this playlist on the root of the DX100's flash, it won't be recognized. Therefore placing all playlists on the root of the sdcard usually works
 
Let me know if this is unclear.
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM Post #10,511 of 13,503
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Hello guys,
 
Since I have spent a lot of time making playlists work on the DX100 (since I always use playlists, I absolutely need them to work), here are a few things I noticed that could be useful to some:
 
  • Playlists that you created outside of the DX100 (for instance on Mediamonkey) are still reversed on the DX100, even with 1.3.7. You can remedy this temporarily by creating reversed playlists on Mediamonkey (put all the songs in the playlist in the "now playing" window and then do "edit" and "reversed list" and then paste back in you playlist
  • If you edit you playlist manually, you can simplify them : all folders on the DX100 flash can be put as "\folder name" and all folders on the sd card can be put as "\sd card\folder name". You can erase all driver names
  • Sometimes some playlists will not appear. I found one of the possible reasons: if a playlists STARTS with tracks that are located on the sd card, and that you place this playlist on the root of the DX100's flash, it won't be recognized. Therefore placing all playlists on the root of the sdcard usually works
 
Let me know if this is unclear.


Thanks Mimouille - that's useful
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM Post #10,512 of 13,503
Grateful Dead - Franklin's Tower - Live at Nashville Municipal Auditorium 1978-12-16 > DX100 (1.2.7) > HE-500 > EQ off / High Gain / Volume 234

Seventh Heaven!

Download from archive.org ... you'll have to look for it ... can't remember exactly which version I got. Look for the "matrix" flac downloads ...

Other artists are available - I listen to a lot of Beethoven and Mozart too ... my music tastes change like the wind. Probably later I will be listening to New Order.

:)
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM Post #10,514 of 13,503
I might try to roll back to 1.2.7, as the sound is a little muddy to me.

Let us know when you do... Personally, I can't say I feel much if any difference 1.2.7 and wonder if there is some placebo effect. For me, I'm so happy to have the stop play fixed and the playlist order at least in album track order (last added album or track appears first still...doh), that maybe I'm just feeling this is the best FW so far. If those things never bothered you then maybe you see little value in the changes and just have an affiliation to the first one you felt right. I liked 1.2.7 but that's what came on my DX so never had to wrangle with earlier versions.

In any case I am going to use the installer tool now I am happy with the FW to load 1.3.7 so I am truly starting with a fresh unit.

Just thinking though, I wonder if the production run and hours played are having an impact on people's perceptions. Anyone A/B'd different runs and FWs?
 
Feb 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM Post #10,515 of 13,503
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Let us know when you do... Personally, I can't say I feel much if any difference 1.2.7 and wonder if there is some placebo effect. For me, I'm so happy to have the stop play fixed and the playlist order at least in album track order (last added album or track appears first still...doh), that maybe I'm just feeling this is the best FW so far. If those things never bothered you then maybe you see little value in the changes and just have an affiliation to the first one you felt right. I liked 1.2.7 but that's what came on my DX so never had to wrangle with earlier versions.

In any case I am going to use the installer tool now I am happy with the FW to load 1.3.7 so I am truly starting with a fresh unit.

Just thinking though, I wonder if the production run and hours played are having an impact on people's perceptions. Anyone A/B'd different runs and FWs?

Yeah, I've noticed a more than a few posters say they had better sound with 1.2.7, but I can't see how much different because it's not a unanimous opinion. However, it's interesting they all picked 1.2.7 to say this about. Could be something to it.
 

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