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post #676 of 689
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Originally Posted by comrade_ix View Post

Can anyone who has heard both the Fidelio L1 and Sony MH1C write a quick comparison of their sound signatures and other qualities/drawbacks?

Love the MH1C's extended subbass (even if the amount can be a bit much at times) and the super smooth, non fatiguing mid and treble. Now looking for something similar in full size cans.

Any input is highly appreciated!

From what I've heard when I tested the L1, was that they were REALLY dark, like they almost had no treble. They also lacked clarity A LOT.

post #677 of 689

Yo,

 

I got my L1 in and will be shooting a video about it to day sometime for you all. I haven't done a video since October, so I'd say it's about time to do one for the L1, X1, M1, and Q701. I'll also do a mid-fi comparisons video. 

 

Anyways the L1 is really nice and is like a mini X1: dark, smooth, and energetic. The treble maybe a bit tolled off and the bass elevated, but oh those creamy mids! I may just convert away from neutral headphones! Do I see a LCD-2 in my future? Oh but back to the L1. As some have stated, it is quite dark with subdued treble and elevated bass, but the bass is never overpowering. The treble is never muffled, but smooth and articulate while being quite detailed. Really just like the X1. The bass extends well and has ample "oomf" behind it but never gets muddy or bloated. The midrange is the star here: upfront and center with no obvious honky or congested tone. They are still quite clear but lack some detailed as they are so forward. The soundstage is good, but not so wide. The imaging is also nice.

 

Overall the headphone is like a baby X1, but less refined of course. Now I am waiting on some M1's...

 

EDIT:

After more listening, I've found them to have slightly more forward upper mids and treble, but nothing bothersome. These still are smooth headphones. I've been using them on my Violectric V200 and oh does this amp pair well with them. The X1's benefits from this pairing more but the L1 gains more midrange body, smoother highs, and deeper bass. Sounds so glorious!

 

Also, the video on the X1 in rendering and will be up later tonight.

 


Edited by Zombie_X - 3/17/14 at 7:40pm
post #678 of 689
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post

From what I've heard when I tested the L1, was that they were REALLY dark, like they almost had no treble. They also lacked clarity A LOT.
These were my initial impressions as well. I almost retuned them until I EQ'd them. Without the EQ I can say they sounded horrible..
post #679 of 689
Hello, how are you?
Are the L1's a noticeable upgrade to the Citiscape Uptowns?
And would they pair well with the HDP-R10?

Cheers!
post #680 of 689
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Originally Posted by gdourado View Post

Hello, how are you?
Are the L1's a noticeable upgrade to the Citiscape Uptowns?
And would they pair well with the HDP-R10?

Cheers!

I can safely say that (without an EQ anyway) the Uptowns sound better than them.

post #681 of 689
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

I can safely say that (without an EQ anyway) the Uptowns sound better than them.

 

This makes no sense. The Citiscape line is a step below the Fidelios.

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I bought the Uptowns on sale and they are an excellent bang for the buck for the price I got them.

The L1's I never heard, so I was wondering on this...

 

Cheers!

post #683 of 689
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Originally Posted by Alex Altorfer View Post
 

 

This makes no sense. The Citiscape line is a step below the Fidelios.

Well, that's what it sounded like to me. The L1 had a ''fuller'' sound and more bass, but besides that the Uptowns sounded clearly better (imo ofcourse).

 

Maybe I'm just not used to dark headphones, but they sounded HORRIBLE to me. Like a $20 headphone

post #684 of 689
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

Well, that's what it sounded like to me. The L1 had a ''fuller'' sound and more bass, but besides that the Uptowns sounded clearly better (imo ofcourse).

 

Maybe I'm just not used to dark headphones, but they sounded HORRIBLE to me. Like a $20 headphone

 

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Originally Posted by gdourado View Post
 

I bought the Uptowns on sale and they are an excellent bang for the buck for the price I got them.

The L1's I never heard, so I was wondering on this...

 

Cheers!

 

Well, I use the Downtowns at work and they sound great for the money. Perhaps the Fidelios' price/performance ratio is not as good as the Citiscapes'.

post #685 of 689
I just don't hear what I'm reading. My new L1s have a nice balanced sound. Plenty of kick in the bass, but a smooth and definite high end. I guess it's subjective.
post #686 of 689

Would using these with the Astro Mixamp for gaming be a waste? Or would it be better if I get M40x?

post #687 of 689
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Originally Posted by gdourado View Post

Hello, how are you?
Are the L1's a noticeable upgrade to the Citiscape Uptowns?
And would they pair well with the HDP-R10?

Cheers!

 

Hi,

 

L1s build quality is definitely more solid, the cables have a much better feel also. On the other hand, Uptowns are lighter, more comfortable with slightly bigger earpads.

Frequency response aside, I think L1s provide a clearly more 'HiFi' and realistic sound in comparison. They sound bigger, fuller, with more realistic treble too.

 

The problem (or not) with Fidelio L1s is that they have a pretty colored sound signature: powerful and really extended sub-bass, quite recessed mid-bass kick, raised upper mids (2,5 Khz) and quite rolled off treble.

While some people could find this sound signature pretty engaging, with some recordings this headphones can sound a bit congested and dark. They could leave you wanting more mid-bass clarity and not as much background sub-bass.

That said, L1s may be very appealing for modern music, specially electronic music where a forgiving presentation with powerful sub bass is often really praised.

 

Uptowns are probably more balanced by comparison, and thus many people like them better.

In my opinion, Uptowns are great headphones for the money, (good sound quality, great comfort, nice looking, etc.) while L1s are more special and clearly more love/hate headphones.

 

If you like an overall warm presentation, with some sub-bass emphasis, and you are not too picky about comfort then L1s are a solid upgrade over Uptowns.

 

Best Luck!

post #688 of 689
Had these headphones awhile back. They sound great for listening when you just want to have fun but thy can get tiring.

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