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post #166 of 699

I think I am going to go with these headphones when I get the money. But one question about the leakage. If I listen to these in a quiet classroom (virtually silent), would people hear my music at 50% volume? What about 75%+?

post #167 of 699

Thanks to both Ultazino and Muppetface for your impressions. I'm not sure how much one can relate to the graphs. I've been looking at this headphone and the Z1000. Going strictly by the graphs (depending on who's graph) the L1 looks like a bass monster and Z1000 looks like it should have less bass than a SRH940 or K701, but the actual accounts of those who have listened to them don't seem to reflect that at all.

 

I'm mainly looking for closed/semi-closed headphone with similar bass to my HFI-780, but a slightly smoother presentation and more conventional (but still spacious) soundstage. I tried the SRH940, but it's bass gets drowned out by mids/highs in complex music. On the other hand I still want good midrange vocal/strings performance. Highs I actually like on the airy side, but not harsh. An R10 would probably be perfect, but I'm limiting my spending this year to around $500-600 biggrin.gif. Hoping to pickup either a new portable/transportable dac/amp or pmp along with a headphone.

post #168 of 699
Problem with R10 is the age. The drivers are only supposed to last about 20-25 years and most R10s are already at least 10 years old. They were made between 1989 and 2004, iirc.
post #169 of 699

Is there a reason why the drivers wear out so fast?

post #170 of 699
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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post

Is there a reason why the drivers wear out so fast?

Bio-cellulose is an organic substance that degrades at a faster rate than other diaphragm materials.
post #171 of 699

Hmm... That's too bad.  At those prices it should really last forever if you take care of it.

post #172 of 699
In the end, the reason for their great sound is the reason for their relatively short life.
post #173 of 699

I'd imagine that the cups are probably just as important as the drivers, if not more so...

post #174 of 699
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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post

I'd imagine that the cups are probably just as important as the drivers, if not more so...

True, but if you can't get replacement drivers, the cups don't do anything for you tongue.gif
post #175 of 699

It won't be the same sound, but if the drivers went out you could make something nice by putting some new drivers in them.  Maybe from an AT woody.  I believe AT does sell replacement drivers for their limited edition models.

post #176 of 699

I've always wondered what an R10 would sound like if the drivers were replaced with those from a CD3000 once they went kaput.

post #177 of 699
Tyll's L1 measurement suggests that L1s need similar power as Lcd2s to reach 90db, which is a lot more than normal portable headphones. How come?
post #178 of 699

Just realized that there is two thread on the L1. eek.gif oh well sorry to repeat myself but like I just said on the other thread I'm a new owner of the L1. They should arrive in two days.  We'll see/hear how the Bass behave.  wink_face.gif

post #179 of 699

Just received mine #01788 Sounds pretty good so far, Did your pair change much with burn in?

post #180 of 699
Thread Starter 
My very first impressions were much too warm, extremely veiled and very recessed mids. So, yeah. smily_headphones1.gif

I came from the PRO 900 so I can see how the veil and warmth make relatively sense, but even now, switching back to Ultrasone, my first impressions surprise me.
Something definitely happened within the first two hours. If it's burn-in or my brain, you decide. I'd bet on my brain. wink.gif
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