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post #1 of 6
1/19/12 at 3:14pm
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I bring up the klipsch image s4 again for this topic, recently i noticed that the treble seems "fuzzy" and somewhat distorted and very prominent. Now I was told that this is not harsh treble, instead it is muddy treble. So the question is: Is the treble as described as myself considered harsh or muddy? and what does the word harsh mean when it comes to sound?

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post #2 of 6
1/19/12 at 5:05pm

Harsh treble is splashy and a bit siblant.  Sort of screechy on the ears.  Good treble is precise, articulate but fluid (smooth).

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post #3 of 6
1/19/12 at 5:45pm

The usage of fluid and smooth as a whole when people talk about all aspects of the audio spectrum kind of bothers me.  When I think of fluid I think of everything meshing together with little articulation and instrument separation.  That's just me, personally.  There's tons of weird audiophile terms out there and they all have different subjectivities, as describing audio is something that's very hard.

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post #4 of 6
1/19/12 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

The usage of fluid and smooth as a whole when people talk about all aspects of the audio spectrum kind of bothers me.  When I think of fluid I think of everything meshing together with little articulation and instrument separation.  That's just me, personally.  There's tons of weird audiophile terms out there and they all have different subjectivities, as describing audio is something that's very hard.


Totally agreed, I've heard the trebles of the HD 800 as "the smoothest treble ever" due to their extreme clarity and absence of ringing issues, but I've also heard them described as "screechy and sibilant"

 

 

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post #5 of 6
1/19/12 at 6:53pm
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Totally agreed, I've heard the trebles of the HD 800 as "the smoothest treble ever" due to their extreme clarity and absence of ringing issues, but I've also heard them described as "screechy and sibilant"

 

 


They are very revealing headphones of your upstream rig I've found with my 2 years with them. But give them a great source/amp...they are brilliant.

 

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post #6 of 6
1/27/12 at 1:40pm

To me, "harsh" treble = hurts your ears. Actual physical discomfort. I have had this trouble with Grado 80s and 225s and a pair of B&W floorstanders.

 

Not sure what "muddy" treble sounds like. To me, treble either hurts or it doesn't. normal_smile%20.gif If I don't notice it, all is good.

 

There is absolutely nothing "screechy" or "sibilant" about my Sennheiser HD-800s. I do know what "screechy" and "sibilant" sound like. And the treble does not cause me any physical discomfort whatsoever.


Edited by JefferyK - 1/27/12 at 1:47pm
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