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post #16 of 36

Hmmm....

 

Every single time I have read that a headphone is clear and natural sounding for classical music it's a red flag for BRIGHT.

 

I hope not, as the design is cool but let's hope for the best.

post #17 of 36

AKG 701 bright? Dt 660 bright?  

post #18 of 36

I think it looks hideous.  Leather earpads with memory foam sounds like win.

post #19 of 36
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Originally Posted by LFF View Post

Hmmm....

Every single time I have read that a headphone is clear and natural sounding for classical music it's a red flag for BRIGHT.

I hope not, as the design is cool but let's hope for the best.

This. The perception of what's neutral is so skewed that any time I hear something advertised as "neutral" especially for genres where brightness isn't automatically painful it's an instant red flag.

The design reminds me of vintage dynamics. Massive eggshells with head-wrapping pillows. I like it.
post #20 of 36

x3

 

It's funny how you learn to read impressions like that over time. 

 

I also thought of those big old vintage dynamics looking at the picture. 

post #21 of 36
Those look gigantic... definitely not portable...
Maybe a d5000 rival?
post #22 of 36

wtf

 

 

 

i dont know what to say

post #23 of 36
Thread Starter 

hmmm an actual graph but they aren't released yet obviously.

 

Graphs for me are only a generalization and I personally don't obsess over them with all the other factors involved. Would love to see a firsthand set of reviews.

post #24 of 36

Such a recession in the lower treble might mean there's some ugly ringing causing cancellation. 

post #25 of 36

Looks similar to the AH-D600 and ATH-M50. 

 

post #26 of 36
Thread Starter 

isn't that lower treble area recession corresponding to the recommended DB reduction at ~7khz as mentioned in the "How To Equalize Your Headphones" thread though? IF so I would think it's a good thing and would reduce "problems"

Maybe I am not thinking straight but I like the EQ reduction when I bothered with that sort of thing. These wouldn't need it there unless my thinking is in error.

post #27 of 36

Well there's no question that a natural sound for a headphone has lowered db in the upper mids and lower treble, but usually such sharp dips correspond directly with ringing.

post #28 of 36
Thread Starter 

would that be detectable in their square wave readings they posted there if you hit that selection instead of the FR?

post #29 of 36

You can usually see some combing in square waves, but the best way to see if a headphone has any noticeable ringing or not is a waterfall plot.

post #30 of 36
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