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Now get them burnin like there's no tomorrow and apply EQ liberally.
I like to burn in via New Wave noise,...and it will begin upon there arrival. This I can promise!!!
post #587 of 679
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Now get them burnin like there's no tomorrow and apply EQ liberally.


What EQ do you apply to these?

I listen to them with no EQ and they sound good, hmm wonder what I'm missing.

post #588 of 679
EQ them with your phone or DAP and they respond beautifully. The whole CNT line up from JVC is very responsive to any customisation.
I use it with the S500, FX40, FXZ200 and the SZ2000 and they are very similar in nature.
post #589 of 679

I seriously need to try out these JVCs. Should I go with the s400s though? I hear they're sonically superior because the frequency response is more balanced.

Heck, maybe I'll just get both. Can't use these with my fancy amp though, not like it really matters too much.

post #590 of 679
I saw a review or 2 on amazon that stated the s500 is an upgrade to the s400. Either way I doubt you'd be disappointed.
post #591 of 679
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Interesting theory. But I would wonder why Innerfidelity wouldn't update their review to include the correct measurements? Doesn't seem like them given how meticulous their work is.

I did post a comment to the M50 review discussion thread on Innerfidelity to get clarification about the measurements, but never got a response. I just emailed Tyll. Maybe he'll join us here and weigh in smily_headphones1.gif

I think I need to admit that I'm not that meticulous. The difference between the two measurements is most likely my methods of getting a good seal on the head have improved over time, and the second measurement has a better seal than the first. I doubt that the difference is due to a change in the headphone....or maybe better put, the M50 might have changed, but the differences in the data are far more likely to be explained by a difference in the seal rather than a difference in the headphone.

 

And I'll add that I think the 2012 graph reflects what I hear with these headphones better than the earlier chart.

post #592 of 679
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I think I need to admit that I'm not that meticulous. The difference between the two measurements is most likely my methods of getting a good seal on the head have improved over time, and the second measurement has a better seal than the first. I doubt that the difference is due to a change in the headphone....or maybe better put, the M50 might have changed, but the differences in the data are far more likely to be explained by a difference in the seal rather than a difference in the headphone.

And I'll add that I think the 2012 graph reflects what I hear with these headphones better than the earlier chart.

Thanks for letting us know, Tyll. smily_headphones1.gif

Do you think there is anything to the white box vs. blue box M50 myth?
post #593 of 679
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Thanks for letting us know, Tyll. smily_headphones1.gif

Do you think there is anything to the white box vs. blue box M50 myth?

No idea. I can tell you that it is very common for manufacturers to change things over the life of the product, but I've got no info on the M50 on that.

post #594 of 679

looks and portability not an issue. at around 200 dollers what would you reccomend that has a little less or significantly less bass and my main concern better/ more forward mids than the m50's. i own them and also have an amp so power is also not an issue.

post #595 of 679
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looks and portability not an issue. at around 200 dollers what would you reccomend that has a little less or significantly less bass and my main concern better/ more forward mids than the m50's. i own them and also have an amp so power is also not an issue.

HD598 i would guess.

post #596 of 679

I still think the M50 holds its ground.  It sounds awesome when you compare it to hundreds of other $150 and under headphones.  I remember I must have tried 50 or more at Headphone.com before I settled on the M50.  It is built amazingly well, has some great design choices, and the fact that it still sounds great after years of minimal design updates says a lot for the headphone.

 

Are there better sounding options?  Yes.

 

Are there better built options?  Maybe, but the M50 is extremely well built.

 

Are there better sealing headphones?  Yes.

 

For a headphone like the M50 to do so well in many categories especially when compared directly against so many other headphones at its price point is still amazing.

 

I keep mine around for a basis for all improvement.

post #597 of 679
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Originally Posted by NA Blur View Post

I still think the M50 holds its ground.  It sounds awesome when you compare it to hundreds of other $150 and under headphones.  I remember I must have tried 50 or more at Headphone.com before I settled on the M50.  It is built amazingly well, has some great design choices, and the fact that it still sounds great after years of minimal design updates says a lot for the headphone.

 

Are there better sounding options?  Yes.

 

Are there better built options?  Maybe, but the M50 is extremely well built.

 

Are there better sealing headphones?  Yes.

 

For a headphone like the M50 to do so well in many categories especially when compared directly against so many other headphones at its price point is still amazing.

 

I keep mine around for a basis for all improvement.

 

Man, you must have gotten eaten alive on the return shipping! smile.gif

 

I agree with these points in general. The M50 is certainly nothing to sneeze at. It is, and will remain, a solid choice.

 

In its heyday, though, the mystique of the M50 far exceeded even the very good headphone you've described. It was recommended in every thread, relevant to the poster's tastes or not, often by people who had little to no experience with other headphones. It seemed to be included in every sound category, probably because it was many people's first decent headphone, and as a group their expectations, preferences, and previous experiences were all over the map. It overshadowed equally good (and perhaps even better, depending on what you're looking for) alternatives in its price range.

 

The one thing I will say for it is that is that I can't remember anybody attacking me for being frank about not personally liking it. I think its almost universal popularity contributed to that, since it's usually the more niche or more polarizing options that tend to produce the fanboys who can't bear to hear a word against their beloved [fill-in-headphone].

 

At any rate, while the headphone itself certainly hasn't changed (right?), its current reputation seems to be more in line with its actual capabilities. Solid, yes, but with flaws just like anything else. No pixie dust or rainbows. smile.gif

post #598 of 679
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Man, you must have gotten eaten alive on the return shipping! smile.gif


I agree with these points in general. The M50 is certainly nothing to sneeze at. It is, and will remain, a solid choice.

In its heyday, though, the mystique of the M50 far exceeded even the very good headphone you've described. It was recommended in every thread, relevant to the poster's tastes or not, often by people who had little to no experience with other headphones. It seemed to be included in every sound category, probably because it was many people's first decent headphone, and as a group their expectations, preferences, and previous experiences were all over the map. It overshadowed equally good (and perhaps even better, depending on what you're looking for) alternatives in its price range.

The one thing I will say for it is that is that I can't remember anybody attacking me for being frank about not personally liking it. I think its almost universal popularity contributed to that, since it's usually the more niche or more polarizing options that tend to produce the fanboys who can't bear to hear a word against their beloved [fill-in-headphone].

At any rate, while the headphone itself certainly hasn't changed (right?), its current reputation seems to be more in line with its actual capabilities. Solid, yes, but with flaws just like anything else. No pixie dust or rainbows. smile.gif
I am a previous owner and can say they are one of if not the most durable headphone made, mine were played under water, hit by a car, and fell off a three story balcony, the damage? A not quite 2mm long dent in the side of one cup that had to be in the right light to see. As far as sound I personally loved the highs, I am a mid freak though so defiantly not impressed there and the bass was pretty good though it could get bloated with some songs. They are very detailed however if negative soundstage could exist they would have it. Most stuff sounded like it was in your head. Overall I would say they are a great entry level can for people who like electronic and hip hop but for acustics and vocals there are better sounding cans for the price if you look in my opinion.
post #599 of 679

it's the patheticness of blindfolded crowd with zero IQ spent on serious research before their purchase. it's called consumerism. if people look closer, there wouldn't be any sales made.

post #600 of 679
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Originally Posted by Frosty3258 View Post

I am a previous owner and can say they are one of if not the most durable headphone made, mine were played under water, hit by a car, and fell off a three story balcony, the damage? A not quite 2mm long dent in the side of one cup that had to be in the right light to see. As far as sound I personally loved the highs, I am a mid freak though so defiantly not impressed there and the bass was pretty good though it could get bloated with some songs. They are very detailed however if negative soundstage could exist they would have it. Most stuff sounded like it was in your head. Overall I would say they are a great entry level can for people who like electronic and hip hop but for acustics and vocals there are better sounding cans for the price if you look in my opinion.

+1


I used them at work to watch movies and listen to music with a fiio e10.

when I left that job I didn't even bother to take either with me because each was so trivial and meh
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