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post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 

Long time listener, first time caller... (take it easy on me!)

 

I currently present 2 (about to become 3!) shifts on a few community radio stations. On one station I present a music show where I play everything from pop to rock to dance and even the odd oldie in there! On the other station, I present scores and do play some older (60's/70's) music. However, I have a shift this weekend that requires me to monitor an OB (multiple, in fact), and last weekend I had to monitor a TV feed when I ran a press conference live.

 

I had a pair of Behringer headphones for my first headphones (can't remember what model, only got them because the station I had had them there), and they were horrible, they were heavy, build quality was poor, and the same could be said for the sound quality!

 

Currently, I use a pair of Sennheiser HD 438's, which I've had for about a year now. They've been, well okay I guess, however they are VERY comfortable. Again, I got these without any real knowledge about professional headphones, and with no idea that I'd be doing three shifts a week!

 

So, I'm looking to upgrade (at the anger of my parents, they say I have more than enough headphones/earphones lol). I don't want to spend any more than $200 on a pair of cans. There's a few in particular which have caught my attention, such as:

 

  • Sennheiser HD 280 PRO (mostly becaue they're going out at a bargain price at the moment)
  • Sennheiser HD 25 (I'm getting confused between the HD 25-1 II and the HD 25-SP II!)
  • AKG K240 Studio

  • AKG K240 MKII

 

 

I will admit, I do have a personal leaning towards the AKG's, but only because I have seen heaps of radio studios use them in photos, and they look really nice (I know, style over substance, go ahead, shoot me, be thankful I'm not interested in Beats! ;)). I've had a look at the Beyerdynamics, but they are out of my price bracket sadly. 

 

I'm having a really hard time choosing one particular one, so any help would be greatly appreciated! I have a rough understanding of headphone terminology (I know what closed and open mean!), but I have no idea what a headphone amp is for (again, shoot me)! Thanks so much in advance. :)


Edited by mcappa - 1/16/12 at 5:47am
post #2 of 30

I would suggest the purest and flattest headphone for what you're going to be doing. The Ultrasone HFi-680 should do that for you.

 

http://ultrasone.com/index.php/en/products/hfi-680.html

 

On Amazon, they are out of stock for the $145 ones but if you keep an eye on them, they'll be back in stock in no time.

post #3 of 30
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  • Sennheiser HD 25 (I'm getting confused between the HD 25-1 II and the HD 25-SP II!)

The SP has downrated drivers on a cheap headband compared to the original.

 

post #4 of 30

I think Beyer DT250-250 should be hard to beat for signal accuracy. I own it's bassier sibling DT250-80 which are identical externally and find them comfortable enough for 4+ hours of use. The AKG comfort is in a class of it's own but keep in mind the AKG's are semi-open, sound will leak.

post #5 of 30

 HD25s original will serve you well too, though a neutral headphone will be better. For my recommendation, the Shure 840s will serve you well.

 

Another one that gets recommended around a lot for its large soundstage and neutrality is the Brainwavz HM5 or Fischer audio FA-003, not my recommendation as I have not heard it but good stuffs are said about those two headphones which supposedly sound similar.

 

Anyways HFi 680? neutral? I thought the UItrasone sound was always on either extreme and a couple of reviews said that the 680 was a bassy can.


Edited by firev1 - 1/16/12 at 8:02am
post #6 of 30

The HD-280 can work if you have a small head (strong clamping force ).

 

The other options will be,

 

GMP 8.35 @ 35 ohm.

K-271MKll, 240MKll semi open.

M-50.

 

post #7 of 30

AKG K271/272 (I love the 240s, but they are semi-open, and you might need more isolation). 

Comfortable - great sound. 

 

The Sennheiser HD-25-1 ii would be nice too, but are earpad phones, and might not be as comfortable, especially if you wear glasses. 

 

 

post #8 of 30

K240/242 are great, but they don't block out exterior noise well enough for your needs I don't think. k271 is closed, so would be much better in that regard. Haven't heard the m50, but it gets great reviews and should have more bass than the k271/2, if that's your preference. K271 may have better mids, though. Shure 440 is another option

post #9 of 30
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Anyways HFi 680? neutral? I thought the UItrasone sound was always on either extreme and a couple of reviews said that the 680 was a bassy can.

I think its just that the bass is more controlled, I could be wrong though.

 

Maybe get some cans that are close to being pretty flat, then eq them to be totally flat?
 

 

post #10 of 30
Thread Starter 

Thanks so much for all of the suggestions, I've had a look at each one quite carefully, they all look quite nice!

 

From looking at the Amazon reviews of it, I'm ruling out the Shure's on build quality. I tend to treat most of my stuff like they're worth nothing, so I doubt they would last long! The pricing is very competitive though..

 

I am warming to the Beyers, they should block enough sound out for me to do my job effectively. The HD 25's are probably the front runner at the moment, seen so many pros use them, and from what I've seen and heard, they're pretty tough too (the replaceable parts are very handy as well). I haven't seen too many radio people use them though, and I presume there is a reason for this. The AT's look pretty nice, but I'm tending to favour the above and the K271's. 

 

Few questions I should ask:

 

For the DT 770 PRO's, what difference is there between the 80 ohm and the 250 ohm models, and what is the limiter that is mentioned?

 

and:

 

Would I need an amp for this sort of thing?

 

EDIT: I should clarify regarding the HD 25's, I do see a lot of DJ's and TV commentators use them, but I haven't seen as many HD 25's as say, AKG's or Sennheiser's. :)


Edited by mcappa - 1/17/12 at 4:43am
post #11 of 30

You do realise that Sennheiser's are HD 25s right? The Beyers DT770 80ohm is build like a tank( much like M50s), HD25s are more portable but they are on-ear which some may not like. The DT770s like other Beyer cans are ridiculously comfy with those pads. The M50s are more portable but have a terribad soundstage and shallow pads, I would not rule them out as DJ phones though as the swivel cups and high clamping force are good for the use.

 

Not too many use them I imagine is more because of comfort? Circumaural phones may be better for longer sessions. Frankly for me I don't like on-ears too much because of comfort however supposedly 'comfy' they are, I rather go full sized.

post #12 of 30
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For the DT 770 PRO's, what difference is there between the 80 ohm and the 250 ohm models, and what is the limiter that is mentioned?

 

The 80 Ohm version is bass heavy, the 250 Ohm one is more balanced, but still has somewhat recessed mids, particularly at about 3.5 kHz. The limiter is optional (if you order a headphone with that, it will be more expensive), and is a passive device that protects against large spikes in sound pressure which could result in hearing damage. You can find more information about it in a PDF file that is available at the product page.

 

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Would I need an amp for this sort of thing?

 

It depends on what source you already have.

 


Edited by stv014 - 1/17/12 at 8:14am
post #13 of 30
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EDIT: I should clarify regarding the HD 25's, I do see a lot of DJ's and TV commentators use them, but I haven't seen as many HD 25's as say, AKG's or Sennheiser's. :)


This is because the HD 25 were designed as professional headphones, not consumer ones and Hi-Fi shops don't stock them so much.

 

post #14 of 30
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It depends on what source you already have.

It would be coming straight from the console/mixer.
 

 

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This is because the HD 25 were designed as professional headphones, not consumer ones and Hi-Fi shops don't stock them so much.

 

Indeed that is the case. I meant by that statement that I don't see many radio people wear HD 25's. :)

 

On price, I'd say the AKG K271's are ahead. The DT 770 PRO's and the HD 25's are definately not out of it though! Out of the three, which would be the most durable and most comfortable?

post #15 of 30

The DT 770s by a long shot, Beyer are known for their extreme durability and the DT 770s are known for their extreme comfort.

Although the DT 770s (even the 250ohm) aren't very neutral, I'd say the 880/990 250 would be much more neutral.


Edited by Mgear - 1/21/12 at 5:47am
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