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The new DAC.

 

 

 

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January 7, 2012
Simaudio Announces the 32-bit MOON 380D DAC
Source: Press Release
 

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Simaudio Ltd. proudly introduces the MOON 380D Digital-to-Analog Converter, our latest addition to the MOON Series of audio components. Designed around our M-AJiC32 circuitry (an asynchronous jitter elimination system) performing in true 32-bit fully asynchronous mode, the MOON 380D features the ESS SABREP32P Ultra DAC operating in 32-bit Hyperstream™ where the conversion process uses an astonishing 8 DAC’s per channel. Raising the bar further, there are eight (8) digital inputs covering the full gamut of connections – AES/EBU on XLR (2), S/PDIF on RCA (2), S/PDIF on BNC (1), Optical (2) and USB (1). All of these inputs can accept a signal up to 24-bit/192kHz resolution. Finally, we’ve included both a full digital monitor loop (S/PDIF) to accommodate external devices such as a room correction component, as well as one S/PDIF digital output.

Enhancing this Digital-to-Analog Converter are two (2) separate options; (i) The MOON MiND music streamer module which is actually a digital 9th input via WiFi or Ethernet connection, and (ii) a high quality remote-controlled volume circuit feeding both balanced (XLR) and single-ended (RCA) analog outputs. The MOON 380D is targeted at individuals with computer-based audio setups, large digital music collections or multiple digital sources.

Significant Design Features
• True 32-bit Digital-to-Analog converter using ESS Technology SABRE32 Ultra DAC / Digital Filter (ES9016) working in 32-bit Hyperstream™ to achieve unprecedented jitter immunity and low-level linearity via a patented Time Domain Jitter Eliminator
• Digital Audio Signal Processing using M-AJiC32 (MOON Asynchronous Jitter Control in 32-bit mode)
• A virtually jitter-free “1 picosecond” digital clocking system
• Optional MiND (MOON intelligent Network Device) module (9th input) via WiFi or Ethernet input for multi-room streaming
• Optional variable analog outputs (balanced & single-ended) using M-eVOL volume circuit which was originally developed for the MOON Evolution series. Accessible using the remote control, this volume operates in 0.5dB increments. M-eVOL is based on a resistive array configuration with no sonic degradation of the audio signal regardless of the chosen volume setting
• The entire analog stage is a fully balanced differential circuit for increased dynamic range and headroom, higher resolution, as well as improved signal-to-noise ratio.
• A very short signal path using a DC servo circuit and proprietary 12dB/octave analog filter
• Separate digital & analog power supplies using 2 independant toroidal transformers with 11 stages of voltage regulation
• Four-layer PCB tracings for a dramatically improved signal-to-noise ratio
• RS-232 port for (i) full unsolicited bidirectional feedback and (ii) firmware updates
• 12 Volt trigger outputs for remote operation and IR input for external control
• SimLink controller port allows for 2-way communications between other compatible MOON components 
The MOON 380D will be available in April 2012 with an MSRP $3,900.00 USD for the base version; add $600.00 for variable analog outputs; add $1,200.00 for the MOON MiND streamer.

Read more http://feeds.ultrahighendforum.com/~r/UltraHigh-EndAudioAndHomeTheaterForum/~3/ppKUeQ8qfpo/viewtopic.php

 


Edited by AppleheadMay - 1/14/12 at 12:15pm
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And the Music server.

 

The music server can be integrated as an addon card into the dac as well.

 

 

 

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Moon 180 MiND Music Streamer Preview

 
by Clint DeBoer — last modified January 10, 2012
 
Moon 180 MiND Music Streamer

Moon 180 MiND Music Streamer

Summary

  • Product Name: 180 MiND Music Streamer
  • Manufacturer: Moon
  • Review Date: January 09, 2012 19:00
  • MSRP: $1,250
  • First Impression: Mildly Interesting
 
Specifications

Executive Overview

Simaudio showed off more than just their Moon phono preamplifier, they also introduced the Moon 180 MiND Music Streamer. MiND, an acronym for Moon intelligent Network Device, streams digitally stored music from a computer, Network Attached Storage (NAS) device, the internet, subscriber-based music services or a UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) enabled device to your audio system. Ultimately, MiND provides a simple means for efficient access to large collections of music, as well as the ability to organize the music to your own preferences. And, the included control software app works with the Apple iPhone, iTouch, iPad or any Android-powered device.

The diminutive Moon MiND can stream music either through a standard Ethernet connection or wirelessly over a Wi-Fi network. Digital music files in all common formats are supported up 24-bit/192kHz resolution, however a 16-bit/48kHz limit exists when streaming wirelessly between the location of your digitally stored music and the MiND. A jitter-free digital audio signal departs from the MiND streamer via any one of its three different digital outputs which is connected to a digital-to-analog-converter. Finally, if your audio system uses a Moon Preamplifier or Integrated Amplifier equipped with SimLink capability, you can control features such as input selection, volume and power on/off using the MiND control app. Basically, if you keep it in the family, then your iPad, iPhone or Android-powered device can become your system’s remote control.

The MiND technology will initially be available in the stand-alone Moon 180 MiND, but eventually it will made available as an optional module that can be incorporated into future Moon products, starting with the all new Moon 380D Digital-to-Analog Converter (DAC).

Significant Design Features:

  • Allows local playlists, gapless playback and silent track scanning
  • Provides for Zone selection, Zone grouping and permanent Zone naming
  • Support for DLNA 1.5
  • vTuner Internet Radio
  • Supported file formats: WAV (PCM), FLAC, FLAC HD, AIF, AAC, ALAC, MP3, WMA-9 and OGG Vorbis
  • S/PDIF (RCA), AES/EBU (XLR), and Optical (Toslink) digital audio outputs
  • Wired network interface via 100 Base-T RJ45 Ethernet
  • Wireless network interface via IEEE 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi with WEP, WPA and WPA2 encryption support
  • SimLink controller port allows for 2-way communications between other compatible Moon components

The Moon 180 MiND will be available in April 2012 with an MSRP $1,250

 
 

 


Edited by AppleheadMay - 1/14/12 at 12:16pm
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How many audio companies have been introducing the same DAC over and over again in the last few years now?  Just wondering.  Who is the manufacturer for them?  Who else does the manufacturer, manufacturer for?  Is this really a different, unique item?  Or is it just the same crap with a new casing and new marketing?

 

Their history page on their homepage is certainly quite a story, though it doesn't tell me anything other than they may have convinced some gullible Canadians to buy their equipment.  And endless fancy audio names for simple things.  Like Lynx Zero Feedback Circuitry.  Am I supposed to be impressed by that when feedback has been proven to not be harmful to audio decades ago?  Am I supposed to be impressed by Alpha Digital Clocking?  I can order a DIY digital reclocker kit for $20 on Ebay.  M-AjiC Jitter Reduction?  Is there any DAC made in the last two decades that doesn't have jitter reduction?

 

I think it's time Head-Fi asked the hard questions, the real questions.  Not whether some random caucasian in Japan who has spent tens of thousands on his audio setup, or some 55 year old old geezer at 6Moons subjectively believes the product is worth $1,500.


Edited by mbd2884 - 1/14/12 at 1:34pm
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I'm interested to see screen shots of the controller app for the streamer.  Tough to get good functionality from a DLNA source.

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How many audio companies have been introducing the same DAC over and over again in the last few years now?  Just wondering.  Who is the manufacturer for them?  Who else does the manufacturer, manufacturer for?  Is this really a different, unique item?  Or is it just the same crap with a new casing and new marketing?

 

Their history page on their homepage is certainly quite a story, though it doesn't tell me anything other than they may have convinced some gullible Canadians to buy their equipment.  And endless fancy audio names for simple things.  Like Lynx Zero Feedback Circuitry.  Am I supposed to be impressed by that when feedback has been proven to not be harmful to audio decades ago?  Am I supposed to be impressed by Alpha Digital Clocking?  I can order a DIY digital reclocker kit for $20 on Ebay.  M-AjiC Jitter Reduction?  Is there any DAC made in the last two decades that doesn't have jitter reduction?

 

Let me be just as polite and diplomatic as possible. Very few manufacturers have succeeded in getting jitter down below 20 ps. Down below 5 narrows things down to maybe three manufacturers that are household names. And Simaudio is a household name in terms of high end audio. They are very well known for their solid state amps, pre-amps, and cd players. The Simaudio LP5.3 and now it's current replacement, the 310LP with their optional outboard PSUs have long been considered among the best sub $2,000 phono stages on the market. But they are most respected for their digital technology, previously with very high end CD players. It seems that Canadian companies excell at digital technology-Classe, Bryston, and Simaudio. A digital reclocker on eBay for $20? Good luck with that. DAC technology is advancing and DACs coming to market are superior at all price points than they were just two or three years ago. As with all things, it is system dependant. I assume you are happy with your DAC in your system and I am not here to tell  you that you are wrong or that you need this or any current DAC.

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My dealer told me about the 380D a month or so ago and I have to say I'm really wanting to hear it. 

 

And to stick up for Simaudio...They're a fantastic company, with fantastic people, and an amazing warranty. They've been a top name in the industry for a long time and for good reason. I would never accuse them of the old 'same crap different case' syndrome. 

 

They also don't recap every year and try to charge more for it...

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