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post #16 of 39
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


You realize Jude said they were great, right?


I think he said he agreed with Jude's critique that the HD700 was behind the HD800, in absolute terms. 

 

 

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So far, out of any amp I've tried the HD700 with (and it likewise pairs nicely with the Raptor), the HD700 is always a click behind the HD 800 at its best. The HD 800 at its best seems to convey a touch more detail across the board than the HD700 at its best.

 

Jude also said... 

 

 

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From rig to rig, I prefer the HD700 to the HD 800 most of the time, so I feel comfortable saying the HD 700 sounds better to me than the HD 800 in most setups.

 

....so it would seem that they are not very far apart, seemingly swapping the lead position depending on amplification (if I read correctly).

 

Interesting that they are this close but the HD700 has a totally different (and smaller) driver.

post #17 of 39
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


You realize Jude said they were great, right?


Find one negative review by Jude for us please.

post #18 of 39
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Originally Posted by kingpage View Post



Find one negative review by Jude for us please.

Most of the time if he doesn't like something he simply won't post a review for it. If you talked to him in person you would hear about things he didn't like as much. He does seem to talk in a mostly positive way about everything, but he will always mention that X product was better than Y product, he just won't say Y product is terrible. It's a tough spot to be in as the king of head-fi with so many interests (private and commercial) intersecting with the figurehead. He does a great job of balancing it, I feel.
post #19 of 39
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Originally Posted by kingpage View Post



Find one negative review by Jude for us please.


Seriously, none?! The world must be all sunshine and rainbow with cans.

post #20 of 39
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Originally Posted by AlfredWong View Post


Seriously, none?! The world must be all sunshine and rainbow with cans.



well, if the cans are bad, they wouldnt ask him to review.

post #21 of 39

If the cans are bad, all the more reason to ask him to review them.

post #22 of 39

Think in others' shoes first before blurting out childish rants.

post #23 of 39
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Originally Posted by iElmer View Post

 I was instantly uncomfortable because of the heat and b.o. that someone was generating, this affected my listing experience.  

 



My wife is hot but suffers with terrible B.O, which of the sennheiser line do you think would suit my listening needs best under these circumstances?

post #24 of 39
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


Most of the time if he doesn't like something he simply won't post a review for it. If you talked to him in person you would hear about things he didn't like as much. He does seem to talk in a mostly positive way about everything, but he will always mention that X product was better than Y product, he just won't say Y product is terrible. It's a tough spot to be in as the king of head-fi with so many interests (private and commercial) intersecting with the figurehead. He does a great job of balancing it, I feel.


Maybe we should ask Uncle Erik. I just checked out his review of the Q701 and well, he really goes straight to the point. biggrin.gif

 


Edited by nikp - 1/16/12 at 3:07am
post #25 of 39

roflmao....

 

x2

post #26 of 39
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

It's about the same size and why would they redevelop a smaller driver instead of using the already existing ring one from the HD800? Wasn't there supposed to be trickle-down technology used for future headphones? That's what Sennheiser hinted at when the HD800 came out.

 


Just because it's the same size doesn't mean it's the same driver. Almost all headphones use 40mm drivers just because it's the most convenient size. That doesn't mean all headphone drivers come from the same Chinese factory. The HD700 also has an impedance of only 150 ohm compared to 300 ohm for the HD6x0 which suggests it's a different beast.

And I doubt Sennheiser would use HD800 drivers in it's lower models, or customers wouldn't have a reason to drop the cash for an HD800, right?

post #27 of 39

It is not a ring driver. It is a 40mm driver, but it is definitely not the same driver as the HD 600 or HD 650. You can see it when you look at all of those drivers. And you can hear it when you listen to all of those headphones.

post #28 of 39
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Originally Posted by nikp View Post


Maybe we should ask Uncle Erik. I just checked out his review of the Q701 and well, he really goes straight to the point. biggrin.gif

 



Uncle Erik just reviewed the Q701? Huh? This, i've got to see....Got a link?

 

He either A) Gave up his K501 and K1000 and became a Q701 fanboy like me

 

or

 

B) Felt it was the worst plasticky junk headphone he's ever heard

 

Probably B biggrin.gif

post #29 of 39

I want to see that too. biggrin.gif

post #30 of 39

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Originally Posted by iElmer View Post

Before I get into it, I would like to say that I was able to test drive these puppies for less than five mins, about the same with the HiFi, BD, and the Maestro's.  CES was so freakin' crowded that there was a line to try these cans out.  Mind you, the way Sennheiser had their booth laid out is that all of their flagship cans are in a smaller booth.  From what I can remember, the 800,700,650 where set up on each side, each having their own amp/dac and cd player.  That booth was insanely small, say 8x10 and when you have all those high end equipment in close quarters plus six to eight people, that room is gonna get hot, say 85-90 deg hot.  As soon as it was my turn to go in, I was instantly uncomfortable because of the heat and b.o. that someone was generating, this affected my listing experience.  

At the moment I had my hands on the 700's, the cans felt cheap to me.  Main body was made of plastic, relatively lighter than the 800's.  I have a huge dome but the cans fitted comfortably.  Clapton was playing on the cd player.  First word that come to mind was neutral.  To put it simply, these cans are a step down in performance compared to the 800's.  I pretty much agree with Jude's critique.

Time and presentation was the enemy when I experienced these headphones for the time.  I would love to try them again and I would probably give the 700's a favorable review, but for now, I am happy with my 650's

As for the original post, everything still applies

 

To each his own.  I don't think you should have made your first post the way you did, especially without listing what particular DAC and Amplifier was paired with them.  However, I for one respect your opinion.  Everyone has their preferences, so just because one person said they were amazing, doesn't really mean it is to someone else.  I hope you get the opportunity to give the HD 700 a go sometime in the future.  Who knows, you might even change your opinions on them after a few days of good listening to them?

 

Very best,


Edited by Destroysall - 1/20/12 at 7:52am
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