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Sennheiser HD700, Not what I expected

post #1 of 39
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I also listened to the German Maestro's, HifiMan, and Beyer Dynamics,  These headphones are not worth $1k.  Such a disappointment.  I should have bought the Hifi's  HE300, she was selling them 35% off, price would have been $175 plus tax.  I'm sorry, the three brands I mentioned would have smoked these cans.

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited by iElmer - 1/13/12 at 8:37pm
post #2 of 39

Care to give reasons why?

post #3 of 39

Just watch..in another 6 months, everyone and their brother is going to release a $1000 "Flagship". Including Skullcandy. I guess at least they didn't release the HD-1600 and double it's price just for fun. People would have bought that too and declared it to be the best value of any headphone ever made.

 

I'm still waiting for the Koss $300 flagship that's solid steel and weighs 50 lbs. Is that HD-700 mostly plastic? Oh wait..HARD plastic. Nice! The cracks should be much smaller now.

 

BTW didn't Sennheiser have the HD-800 way cheaper and then suddenly increase the price? Funny how that works. Just in time for the HD-700!

 

I was hoping they would have released something cheaper. Every Sennheiser is overpriced IMO at it's retail price.

 

Hopefully the $1000 retail means it will actually be under $600 wholesale. I can dream I guess.

 

Sorry, Sennheiser just annoys me lately... why do all the new headphones need to cost a fortune?

 

Too many headphones are overpriced for the sound you get...not saying the HD-700 is.

 

 


Edited by tdockweiler - 1/13/12 at 11:44pm
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I was recently given the new HD428 cans by Sennheiser and after they have 30 hrs playing time I

am surprized, as they are good for many different genre with neutral but bass influenced. Just

sayin, for $100 vs $1000 I'd not spend more.

post #5 of 39

Hmmm more reviews :) amping? DAC used? Source? genre's listened? Burn in?

post #6 of 39

Pointless thread if you cannot explain whats wrong with them along with presenting the full chain of gear used.

post #7 of 39
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

Sorry, Sennheiser just annoys me lately... why do all the new headphones need to cost a fortune?

 

 

 


My understanding is that the price is based on development costs and manufacture and priced so a dealer can demonstrate them properly.

 

 

 

post #8 of 39
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Before I get into it, I would like to say that I was able to test drive these puppies for less than five mins, about the same with the HiFi, BD, and the Maestro's.  CES was so freakin' crowded that there was a line to try these cans out.  Mind you, the way Sennheiser had their booth laid out is that all of their flagship cans are in a smaller booth.  From what I can remember, the 800,700,650 where set up on each side, each having their own amp/dac and cd player.  That booth was insanely small, say 8x10 and when you have all those high end equipment in close quarters plus six to eight people, that room is gonna get hot, say 85-90 deg hot.  As soon as it was my turn to go in, I was instantly uncomfortable because of the heat and b.o. that someone was generating, this affected my listing experience.  

At the moment I had my hands on the 700's, the cans felt cheap to me.  Main body was made of plastic, relatively lighter than the 800's.  I have a huge dome but the cans fitted comfortably.  Clapton was playing on the cd player.  First word that come to mind was neutral.  To put it simply, these cans are a step down in performance compared to the 800's.  I pretty much agree with Jude's critique.

Time and presentation was the enemy when I experienced these headphones for the time.  I would love to try them again and I would probably give the 700's a favorable review, but for now, I am happy with my 650's

As for the original post, everything still applies


Edited by iElmer - 1/15/12 at 1:15am
post #9 of 39
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Originally Posted by iElmer View Post

I also listened to the German Maestro's, HifiMan, and Beyer Dynamics,  These headphones are not worth $1k.  Such a disappointment.  I should have bought the Hifi's  HE300, she was selling them 35% off, price would have been $175 plus tax.  I'm sorry, the three brands I mentioned would have smoked these cans.

 

 

 

 

 

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You can't make a decision by auditioning ANYTHING at CES.  You need to take a pair home and give it some ear time.  I do agree that $999 is a lot of money for headphones.  

 

 


Edited by DjAmTraX - 1/15/12 at 2:23am
post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by John Willett View Post


My understanding is that the price is based on development costs and manufacture and priced so a dealer can demonstrate them properly.

 


Development costs? Surely by now Sennheiser must be making some money on their previous models. And how much does it cost to put a HD650 driver in a tweaked HD800 housing?

 

Like I said before, the price of the HD700 is too close to the original price of the HD800. Neat move by Sennheiser to make the HD700 now seem "affordable" in contrast to the inflated price of the HD800.

 

As my father-in-law once said "They see you coming.."

post #11 of 39
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post


Development costs? Surely by now Sennheiser must be making some money on their previous models. And how much does it cost to put a HD650 driver in a tweaked HD800 housing?

 

Like I said before, the price of the HD700 is too close to the original price of the HD800. Neat move by Sennheiser to make the HD700 now seem "affordable" in contrast to the inflated price of the HD800.

 

As my father-in-law once said "They see you coming.."


What makes you think it's a 650 driver?

 

The shape is different and the 700 has been several years in development.

 

post #12 of 39

It's about the same size and why would they redevelop a smaller driver instead of using the already existing ring one from the HD800? Wasn't there supposed to be trickle-down technology used for future headphones? That's what Sennheiser hinted at when the HD800 came out.

 

post #13 of 39
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Originally Posted by iElmer View Post

Before I get into it, I would like to say that I was able to test drive these puppies for less than five mins, about the same with the HiFi, BD, and the Maestro's.  CES was so freakin' crowded that there was a line to try these cans out.  Mind you, the way Sennheiser had their booth laid out is that all of their flagship cans are in a smaller booth.  From what I can remember, the 800,700,650 where set up on each side, each having their own amp/dac and cd player.  That booth was insanely small, say 8x10 and when you have all those high end equipment in close quarters plus six to eight people, that room is gonna get hot, say 85-90 deg hot.  As soon as it was my turn to go in, I was instantly uncomfortable because of the heat and b.o. that someone was generating, this affected my listing experience.  
At the moment I had my hands on the 700's, the cans felt cheap to me.  Main body was made of plastic, relatively lighter than the 800's.  I have a huge dome but the cans fitted comfortably.  Clapton was playing on the cd player.  First word that come to mind was neutral.  To put it simply, these cans are a step down in performance compared to the 800's.  I pretty much agree with Jude's critique.
Time and presentation was the enemy when I experienced these headphones for the time.  I would love to try them again and I would probably give the 700's a favorable review, but for now, I am happy with my 650's
As for the original post, everything still applies

You realize Jude said they were great, right?
post #14 of 39
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


You realize Jude said they were great, right?


+1

post #15 of 39
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Originally Posted by iElmer View Post

I would like to say that I was able to test drive these puppies for less than five mins


nice

 

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