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post #16 of 27
1/12/12 at 9:05am

That's either your iPod or XB500 distorting, the song itself does not distort.  The XB500 does not have very clean mids and highs, just lots of bass.

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post #17 of 27
1/12/12 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

That's either your iPod or XB500 distorting, the song itself does not distort.  The XB500 does not have very clean mids and highs, just lots of bass.



Well I went and tried some other songs that I googled, like Hypnotize - Young Jeezy and Top Back - T.I. and there is bass, but its like the headphones are underpowered, I get that static roll off at the end of the low note. 

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post #18 of 27
1/12/12 at 9:12am

I'm not hearing 'static rolloffs' on the low notes in those songs.  It might be that the iPod touch 3rd gen has a lesser dac/amp than the 4th generation.

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post #19 of 27
1/12/12 at 9:39am
Try "Set Me On Fire" by Pendulum. If you still don't hear bass, you have a problem. (The bass in the song is ridiculously overpowered.)
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post #20 of 27
1/12/12 at 9:48am

I don't hear much bass on it.  :(

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post #21 of 27
1/12/12 at 11:15am

I hear it, it's just very deep but wouldn't call it overpowering though, typical dubstep bass but it could be a low quality issue I believe as I just checked youtube. However I must say I heard a much stronger same type of bass in another thread in this track:

 

 

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post #22 of 27
1/12/12 at 11:20am

This is normal. You are a bass head like me. I have some very bass heavy headphones including the xb500 and I use EQ to increase the bass on all of them (except the PRO 900 :D).

 

True bass heads will not find flat xb500 bassy at all.

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post #23 of 27
1/12/12 at 11:59am


 

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Originally Posted by silverbox View Post

This is normal. You are a bass head like me. I have some very bass heavy headphones including the xb500 and I use EQ to increase the bass on all of them (except the PRO 900 :D).

 

True bass heads will not find flat xb500 bassy at all.


If you mean true bassheads are people used to minimum a single 10" sub in the car or home speaker setup and suddenly turning to headphones I guess I can agree.

 

XB500 is still about as bassy as you can get in a headphone (headphones with similar amount of bass, up to about ~15dB boost are for example V-Moda LP2 or Audio Technica Pro700MK2).

 

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Then we can speak about different types of bass though. PRO 900 have a very tacticle/punchy bass that headphones whit a smaller "hillshape" bass curve centered around 100Hz usually has and that's midbass. It hits with a physically strong impact (compare like being hit with a hammer but obviously not that bad haha). Subbass is softer in attack and needs a lot bigger boost to give the same kind of physical impact as midbass especially around 80 ~ 125 Hz provides. I would guess the reason behind why midbass focused headphones with rolled-off subbass range hits hard despite not necessarily being as much boosted is probably as the low frequencies draws so much more power from the source and if it can focus more of its power at the midbass range which requires less power will result in a "harder" punch so to speak.

 

Having said that what I'd define "bass quantity" theoretically is simply how much it's boosted in the 20 - 200Hz or so range (avg value) where XB500 would come just under 15dB,  Pro900 about 5~7 dB or something like that so XB500 being more than twice as bassy but definitely doesn't have the sense of giving more than twice the amount of "impact" to the bass though but it will highly depend on the track played ofc, for dubstep XB500 would fare better than typical trance songs for example.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 1/12/12 at 12:18pm
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post #24 of 27
1/12/12 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post


 


If you mean true bassheads are people used to minimum a single 10" sub in the car or home speaker setup and suddenly turning to headphones I guess I can agree.

 

XB500 is still about as bassy as you can get in a headphone (headphones with similar amount of bass, up to about ~15dB boost are for example V-Moda LP2 or Audio Technica Pro700MK2).

 

graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=1153&graphID[]=933

 

Then we can speak about different types of bass though. PRO 900 have a very tacticle/punchy bass that headphones whit a smaller "hillshape" bass curve centered around 100Hz usually has and that's midbass. It hits with a physically strong impact (compare like being hit with a hammer but obviously not that bad haha). Subbass is softer in attack and needs a lot bigger boost to give the same kind of physical impact as midbass especially around 80 ~ 125 Hz provides. I would guess the reason behind why midbass focused headphones with rolled-off subbass range hits hard despite not necessarily being as much boosted is probably as the low frequencies draws so much more power from the source and if it can focus more of its power at the midbass range which requires less power will result in a "harder" punch so to speak.

 

Having said that what I'd define "bass quantity" theoretically is simply how much it's boosted in the 20 - 200Hz or so range (avg value) where XB500 would come just under 15dB,  Pro900 about 5~7 dB or something like that so XB500 being more than twice as bassy but definitely doesn't have the sense of giving more than twice the amount of "impact" to the bass though but it will highly depend on the track played ofc, for dubstep XB500 would fare better than typical trance songs for example.

Well I brought out my NuForce N-6 IEMs from collecting dust and honesty I can hear a difference in bass between them and the supposed "extra bass" of the xb500. Maybe I have a bad unit? Idk. 
 

 

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post #25 of 27
1/12/12 at 2:58pm

You won't believe me I have listened also to the xb-500 and I most completely agree they only rattle a little more, and that's it! I think i need to hear it with some amps

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post #26 of 27
1/12/12 at 6:16pm

I didn't find the XB500 all that great at performing sub bass I did find them claustrophobic in nature.

RPG Wizard thanks for that track. The bass in that song is so deep and smooth with my Superlux HD668B's. Does anyone hear a slight electronic hiss vibration near the end of the song in the bass? I am wondering if it is just youtube.

 

Any headphone that hits you in the face I would be concerned about. :)

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post #27 of 27
1/12/12 at 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by Hailin View Post

I didn't find the XB500 all that great at performing sub bass I did find them claustrophobic in nature.

RPG Wizard thanks for that track. The bass in that song is so deep and smooth with my Superlux HD668B's. Does anyone hear a slight electronic hiss vibration near the end of the song in the bass? I am wondering if it is just youtube.

 

Any headphone that hits you in the face I would be concerned about. :)

 

i'm saving this track to compare my own hd668b with the brainwavz hm5. 
but. looking at the songs he tried to listen to (which makes up about 2/5 of my library), i suspect he won't be satisfied with headphones. iem's are a better bet.

at least that's what i've experienced.
 

EDIT. listened to the xb500. they DEFINITELY have subbass and bass. a lot of it too. and i'm what you might call a subbass whore.
soooo. something's wrong somewhere.


Edited by atomikn00b - 1/13/12 at 12:23pm
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