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Sony xb500, am I deaf?

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I bought these expecting a lot of hit you in the face bass. I get almost none. By none I mean its no different that any other non bass headphone I've used.

 

I do get a lot on certain songs (can feel a rattle), but only if I hook my ipod up to my fiio e6 and turn on bass boost....

 

Do I have a bad model or bad ears? I hear bass just fine in my car or home theater etc.. 


Edited by 7Virtues - 1/11/12 at 9:09pm
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I bought these expecting a lot of hit you in the face bass. I get almost none. By none I mean its no different that any other non bass headphone I've used.

 

I do get a lot on certain songs (can feel a rattle), but only if I hook my ipod up to my fiio e6 and turn on bass boost....

 

Do I have a bad model or bad ears? I hear bass just fine in my car or home theater etc.. 


Well you're just used to more bass than headphones can provide as car subs != headphones. The strongest bass experience you'd experience is probably XB500 paired with digiZoid ZO2 amp with max bass boost level, that should tickle your face with bass. You'll never get bass you feel in your whole body though from headphones.

 

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Either you're listening to songs that were likely mastered with full-sized sub arrays in mind that would otherwise not provide a lot of bass in songs coming from even the most bass-oriented headphones, or you are going deaf.  There's also the possibility that you're just so used to the bass headache that is full-sized sub arrays in small enclosures.

 

What songs in particular are you listening to? 


Edited by TMRaven - 1/11/12 at 9:01pm
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Either you're listening to songs that were likely mastered with full-sized sub arrays in mind that would otherwise not provide a lot of bass in songs coming from even the most bass-oriented headphones, or you are going deaf.  There's also the possibility that you're just so used to the bass headache that is full-sized sub arrays in small enclosures.

 

What songs in particular are you listening to? 



Nothing really. I don't normally listen to rap or anything heavy bass, so I asked around for heavy bass songs. I know "Party like a rockstar" with the amp and bass boost rattles, but without the amp, nothing.

 

I don't think I'm going deaf, like I said I can hear bass in cars/movies/theater etc... 

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Well you're just used to more bass than headphones can provide as car subs != headphones. The strongest bass experience you'd experience is probably XB500 paired with digiZoid ZO2 amp with max bass boost level, that should tickle your face with bass. You'll never get bass you feel in your whole body though from headphones.

 


You have a point, I've been in cars where I feel hairs on my body shake and it hits me in the chest. I'm just saying stand alone, I don't hear anything different than if I compared these to other headphones/iems. 

 

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I don't think I'm going deaf, like I said I can hear bass in cars/movies/theater etc... 


Bass, especially in these situations when you have huge subwoofers pointed at you, is felt more than heard.

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Bass, especially in these situations when you have huge subwoofers pointed at you, is felt more than heard.



True, but reviews say xb500s hit you in the face... And could be offensive to some. Without an amp I have no problem listening to anything. Sounds like a neutral all around warm sound. With the amp, yea I hear some low end stuff, and get some shaking. 

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Again, what songs in particular are you using?  

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Again, what songs in particular are you using?  



Top 40 stuff. 

 

But like I said I can't hear any booming bass on anything without the amp... Even stuff like Lil jon -low

 

Sure I feel and hear it with the amp, but without, its no different bass wise than the stupid iPhone earbuds. 

post #10 of 27

You're listening through your computer?  XB500 doesn't particularly improve too much from amp, so that tells me your computer's internal soundcard is very bad, especially considering you're saying you feel it's no different than a pair of apple earbuds.  Lil-Jon Get Low has a little low bass, but mastered to the point that it'd be way less apparent on a pair of  bass heavy headphones compared to full sized subwoofers.  I've heard considerably more bassy songs than that.

 

 

Also if you're trying to get bass that makes your headphones rattle, you will most certainly lose hearing over time.  If you're going for impact alone, then you need to steer clear of headphones.  A headphone's advantage is the ability to hear the lowest bass tones with minimal price investment.  Impact is a speaker's advantage.


Edited by TMRaven - 1/11/12 at 9:37pm
post #11 of 27

your thoughts make me curious. i'll buy an xb500 tomorrow and see.

i have before and listened to them for about 30 secs before deciding they weren't for me because they sounded veiled.

this time, i'll burn them and see how the bass is.

especially compared to my hm5's since you say it doesn't seem different from normal warm phones.

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You're listening through your computer?  XB500 doesn't particularly improve too much from amp, so that tells me your computer's internal soundcard is very bad, especially considering you're saying you feel it's no different than a pair of apple earbuds.  Lil-Jon Get Low has a little low bass, but mastered to the point that it'd be way less apparent on a pair of  bass heavy headphones compared to full sized subwoofers.  I've heard considerably more bassy songs than that.

 

 

Also if you're trying to get bass that makes your headphones rattle, you will most certainly lose hearing over time.  If you're going for impact alone, then you need to steer clear of headphones.  A headphone's advantage is the ability to hear the lowest bass tones with minimal price investment.  Impact is a speaker's advantage.



My goal isn't to get it to rattle, infact I have I to turn the volume up pretty high for that. I was experimenting. 

 

 

Nope, listening through an iPod Touch 3rd gen. Can you suggest a bassy song I can test?

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I am not too sure how the 3rd gen touch's amp/dac are, but I have the 4th gen and it is pretty good. I'd assume the 3rd gen is pretty decent as well, at least decent enough to not have a severe bass rolloff.

 

Try Trentemøller: The Last Resort (album), or James Blake Limit to your Love.  

 

If those don't have a lot of bass for you, then you're very used to the amount of bass full sized subs through at you in small spaces, and you need to stay clear of them for a while.  The body is adaptive and the aural memory is very bad, so the more time you spend away from anything that pisses your neighbors off the better you'll hear bass from headphones.

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I am not too sure how the 3rd gen touch's amp/dac are, but I have the 4th gen and it is pretty good. I'd assume the 3rd gen is pretty decent as well, at least decent enough to not have a severe bass rolloff.

 

Try Trentemøller: The Last Resort (album), or James Blake Limit to your Love.  

 

If those don't have a lot of bass for you, then you're very used to the amount of bass full sized subs through at you in small spaces, and you need to stay clear of them for a while.  The body is adaptive and the aural memory is very bad, so the more time you spend away from anything that pisses your neighbors off the better you'll hear bass from headphones.



I just previewed it in iTunes(Limit to your love), idk what bitrate previews are, but yea I can hear rumbles, so much so that it distorts his vocals. 

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Well now I don't know. I googled bass songs, and started previewing those and lot of those don't have much bass. Its like the headphones can't go deep enough so they produce that fake bass sound.  It gets that static roll off at the end of a low note if you know what I mean. Its not sharp. 

 

For example Hypnotize - Young Jeezy


Edited by 7Virtues - 1/12/12 at 9:07am
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