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post #1 of 20
1/10/02 at 1:59am
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Has anyone here used them? I'm looking to buy in bulk and it seems TDK's are getting harder to find (large bulk wise). I'm looking for lots of 100-200...or more if the price is good.

TIA

George
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post #2 of 20
1/10/02 at 2:58am
That could be a complex issue. TDK uses discs from several different suppliers. I believe the black in black discs is in the plastic, and not the media itself.

http://r3mix.net/forum

Check out the CD-R Media Forum if you needs are stringent, otherwise TDK is generally thought of as good quality.
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post #3 of 20
1/10/02 at 4:23am
I've used the "Black Diamond" PNY's before, and it just turned out to be a dark purple tinted plastic when held up to a light. The dye itself was something common, maybe the pth-blah one. Anyway, the CD was not cheap like a generic bulk CD, but it wasn't anything special with compatibility either. My test of a CD's compatibility is to play audio tracks burned on it on my dad's Sony car CD deck, and so far I've only found a handful of brands/types that would work.
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post #4 of 20
1/10/02 at 7:06am
I believe the black bottoms happen to be marketed more towards people trying to copy Playstation games, because the first wide appearance of black bottom CDs was on PSX games, in order to authenticate and seperate PSX games in the market. By using a black bottom CDR, you can make a more "genuine" looking game, especially if combined with a high quality CD cover print. You know where this all leads of course...
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post #5 of 20
1/10/02 at 8:58am
For audio CD, I use blue or silver dye CD-Rs. For data, I use Memorex Black CD-Rs. It doesn't really matter what brand of media you use, just don't get ones with green dye (they are terrible!)
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post #6 of 20
1/10/02 at 12:13pm
For Audio copies my standard is Sony/Taiyo Yuden, and I just got a good stash of the discontinued Kodak Ultimas.
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post #7 of 20
1/10/02 at 4:42pm
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Originally posted by Audio&Me
For audio CD, I use blue or silver dye CD-Rs. For data, I use Memorex Black CD-Rs. It doesn't really matter what brand of media you use, just don't get ones with green dye (they are terrible!)
Thats interesting, i find blue bottom cdr's to be problematic and green (light shade or medium shaded) to work very well with everything, including the 25S, and my 10 year old CDP, as well as my brother's car cd player. I'm probably gonna grab whatever i can find at JandR tomorrow. I did find one site that had bulk TDK's, but of course...all sold out...go figure

George

ps. pigmode, thanks for the link, i'll check it out!
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post #8 of 20
1/10/02 at 4:48pm
I've had the most problems with bulk Sony CD-Rs and any TDK media. When it comes to CD-Rs, they're all dependant on your source equipment, so obviously it varies among everyone.

Memorex silver dye 80min CD-R are what I use most often.
Here is a good site with a lot of different media:
http://www.americal.com They sell their own CD-Rs with "TruSilver" dye that looks just like retail CDs.
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post #9 of 20
1/10/02 at 4:51pm
I've been extremely happy with the Kodak Gold CD-Rs, Fujifilm Green, and Maxell Yellow. No coasters, ever -- and all those I burned as long ago as 1997 (when I first got a burner) still work fine.
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post #10 of 20
1/10/02 at 5:12pm
Hey, George, before you buy anything, search around on Rave Recordings on audioreview.com. There's a lot of burners/traders on that site, and they're constantly talking about best price, etc.
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post #11 of 20
1/10/02 at 6:07pm
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Thanks for the tip Dusty!

As for problems with TDK's, i'm very surprised! Guess it does matter on the sources.

George
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post #12 of 20
1/10/02 at 6:09pm
You're right Audio&Me, once I found a reliable combo I decided to stick with it. Here's a couple of good sites:

http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd.shtml

http://www.cdrlabs.com/index.php3

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Lite-On LTR-32123S 32/12/40 CD-RW. It's gotten good reviews and is cheap compared the the full-blown Plextor. Under $100.
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post #13 of 20
1/10/02 at 6:27pm
Wha??? 32x CD-R write speed?

I want to get the Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32S (ultra scsi) but want to wait to see if they'll be any firewire drives. (then I can lug it around to other computers)

I've backed up my album collection with 74min Sony CD-R Audio (Harman Kardon CDR 20 recorder)

Another media that works well for me is Khypermedia 16x 80min silver dye CD-R.
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post #14 of 20
1/11/02 at 1:03am
I bought PNY black diamond and found that they worked in my Denon cd player when I had it when my Sony cdr's ouldn't work at all. But now that I have a new drive that burns at 24x I have to take what I can get if I want to burn at max speed since 24x media seems to be kinda rare right now. Only 4min and 15 seconds for a 700mb burn...
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post #15 of 20
1/11/02 at 1:06am
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Originally posted by ai0tron
Only 4min and 15 seconds for a 700mb burn...
Thats sweet, it takes my Plextor SCSI 8X about 10 minutes.

Hmmm, i think i'll start hunting online and buy a bunch of different media from various companies/brands and decide which one i like the most for the price. I have been quite content with the TDK's, but 700MB bulk have been elusive for some reason

George
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