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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


They have similar sound signature cues. Their lower mids and lower treble are practically the same, as is their bass (though it is a bit tighter and faster with the HD700).
That's what I've been saying. The HD700s aren't $1k headphones, they're roughly $400 overpriced. Not to worry though, when Dakmart starts blowing them out at $599 they'll be a decent value. biggrin.gif

Weird, what I heard is totally the opposite.

 

Also, if you calculate cleanness and detail retrieval as part of headphone's technicalities, I think HD700 deserve for their price right now, as I never know any headphone around 600 bucks can as good as HD700 at least in this two factors.

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I was waiting for a restaurant reservation to come around earlier this week so went into Harrods and did a comparative listen to the HD800 and HD700.

 

After all the bad press its received I was actually quite surprised at how good it sounded. It had less deep bass than the HD800, less soundstage, a slightly more offensive treble spike and a slightly grainier sound, but on the whole it was quite impressive technically and bore a lot of similarity to the HD800 in direct comparison. Still had a great soundstage, still had good clarity, fairly decent bass and great mid range.

 

Going from the HD700 to the HD800 is somewhat what I imagine people with bad eye sight get when they put their glasses on. Everything gets crisper, cleaner, and better spaced apart, but you're still seeing the same thing.

 

 

Don't know if I had £600 to spend this would be the first thought on my mind, but neither do I think its bad value given current headphone pricing.

 

I was equally surprised that I actually like the HD800 this time around, really hated it the first time I auditioned it. Still not strictly my cup of tea, but was much more impressive than I remembered, particularly the mid range which really was wonderful with the jazz Cd they had in. 


Edited by EddieE - 10/18/12 at 6:24am
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I bought my pair at Harrods during their special 10% off day...wink.gif I went there to check the Ultasone SignaturePro and nearly didn't bother checking the HD700 after reading the negative comments here. I am very pleased I did. I was so impressed that I returned the next to make sure I heard correctly and decided to buy them. I definately prefer those to the T1 and HD800 and I enjoy them as much as my H-6 biggrin.gif


Edited by zenpunk - 10/18/12 at 9:32am
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I heard these at CanJam.  Yuck.

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Originally Posted by The Monkey View Post

I heard these at CanJam.  Yuck.

What's yucky about them? I haven't heard them so I can't comment.
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What's yucky about them? I haven't heard them so I can't comment.

 

To me, they have all the bad qualities of the 800 and none of the good ones.  They sounded like a brighter, more grainy 595, without the bass.  At the Senn booth, there was a Momentum (I didn't listen) a 650, a 700, and an 800.  The 700 sounds MUCH more like the 800 than the 650.  I think the 650 is easily better than the 700.  I also thought the 800 sounded really strident and bright out of the Senn amp.  I would like to give the 700 one more chance with the Luxman P-1u.

 

EDIT: Senn seems to be a bit confused right now.


Edited by The Monkey - 10/20/12 at 9:12pm
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 They sounded like a brighter, more grainy 595, without the bass.

confused_face(1).gif . Doesn't make sense.

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confused_face(1).gif . Doesn't make sense.

Grainy (as opposed to smooth) is a negative quality due to unevenness such as sharp peaks and ridges, in a given frequency range. This results in certain frequencies over-represented and other nearby frequencies under-represented, thus "grains" of the sound appear. At least in terms of measurements, HD700s do have a few prominent and sharp "up and downs" in its entire treble region, I wouldn't be surprised if they cause the treble presentation to sound grainy.

 

Reference (courtesy of changstar):

 

HD700

 

 

HD598 (similar to HD595 as referenced by The Monkey)


Edited by jerg - 10/20/12 at 9:32pm
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Well, I  just couldn't imagine the hd700 to be worse than the hd595 (which is not so great).

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Well, I  just couldn't imagine the hd700 to be worse than the hd595 (which is not so great).

The important thing here, as always, is that HD700s are worse than the HD595s to The Monkey. It is his personal subjective opinion based on his listening impressions, and biased with his particular sonic preferences. Certain people might dig HD700's voicing and colouration hugely and there ain't nothing wrong with that.

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The HD700 sounded better than the HD650 imo. Not exactly sure where they stand compared to the HD800, but no trouble against the HD650. Only problem was that there were noticeable treble peaks, not to the degree of my Ultrasone PRO900, but around there. I got very sensitive to those in the last 6 months, so I sold off the PRO900 and went for the T1 instead.

The HD700 sounded really good for trance at the very least. Bass and treble was really good for trance. Until my ears got sensitive. I prefer the T1 since my ears don't hurt, but I would pay the same amount for the HD700 as I did for my T1, $800. They felt a bit better for trance, and the soundstage was a really, really nice complement.
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The important thing here, as always, is that HD700s are worse than the HD595s to The Monkey. It is his personal subjective opinion based on his listening impressions, and biased with his particular sonic preferences. Certain people might dig HD700's voicing and colouration hugely and there ain't nothing wrong with that.

 

I really like the HD700, but you have to use them with the right amp or they will sound bright with lighter bass. On the good amp they sound awesome

I also think a meet or canjam isn't the ideal place to judge a headphone ;)

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I thought 'graininess" was basically the result of distortion and noise, I've heard smooth and grainy speakers/headphones covering every character of frequency response...

post #3449 of 3534
I have 4 sennheiser headphone : HD 580 , HD 650 ( sold ) , HD 800 and as latest collection I bought HD 700 2 weeks a go

HD 700 is a baby HD 800 , with less wider soundstage less cleanest bass less detail , but not that much like my HD 650

In my opinion HD 700 and HD 800 are very good to drive with tube amp like zana deux and my tube pre amp T + A .

For portable use with my Alo continental sounded better than with my Alo RX 3 B.
post #3450 of 3534
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

 

I really like the HD700, but you have to use them with the right amp or they will sound bright with lighter bass. On the good amp they sound awesome

I also think a meet or canjam isn't the ideal place to judge a headphone ;)

 

Ideal, maybe not.  But a quiet meet and/or CanJam are still rather easy places to form solid and informed impressions of a headphone, especially if you've listened to lots and lots of headphones in the past.  Electronics, much less so. 

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