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post #931 of 2761
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Originally Posted by dogears View Post

^+1. And that is Barzirker's opinion, preference and quest so I think we all should respect that :cool: + I really wouldn't think you can change his approach :D


Nothing wrong with his approach, maybe just with his choice here....just stating the facts about the ASG-1....we all hear differently, that has been clarified!
 

 

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Originally Posted by Bazirker View Post

 

I have no philosophical qualms against EQ'ing, it's more of a practical thing.  I find it much more difficult to EQ a headphone which is of high quality and don't enjoy doing it.  

 

To clarify, when you have a crappy pair of phones, it's easy and obvious how you should EQ them to make them suit your needs better.  But with a nice set of phones, you're starting with a much better baseline in terms of audio quality, making it much more difficult (at least for me) to figure out how EQ changes can improve the sound not just on a particular track or album but for your music in general.  I get frustrated when I amp up the treble for one track and it sounds better then switch to a different style of music and find the same EQ'ing to be detrimental.  With hi-fi phones, your improvements are measured in inches, not miles, which makes it harder to evaluate what sounds better and what doesn't.  I prefer someone else to do it for me when they design the headphones.  If I don't like the phones and there isn't an obvious EQ fix, then I sell them and buy another pair to try out which I think will work out better.  I just don't enjoy screwing around with an EQ on each device I listen to (especially when they don't all have equalizers!) and with each pair of headphones, I'd rather just only own headphones that I like as is.


I'm not picking on your post but I still don't get the logic of what you are saying .. also bored as i still don't have my ASG-1 popcorn.gif

 

 

So what defines a high quality headphone ?

 

Is it the price alone or sum of quality characteristics that differentiates it from others - clarity, detail, texture, sound stage, imaging etc.

Non of these characteristics can be effectively adjusted with the use of equalizing. Equalizing will only address the bias levels of audible frequency range - tuning.

Therefore equalizing a low quality phone can't make it become a high quality one as it can't inherit characteristics that it doesn't have in first place.

Equally equalizing a high quality phone will not make it lose its quality characteristics. You are just adjusting bias of the frequency range.

 

 

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I have no philosophical qualms against EQ'ing, it's more of a practical thing.  I find it much more difficult to EQ a headphone which is of high quality and don't enjoy doing it.
To clarify, when you have a crappy pair of phones, it's easy and obvious how you should EQ them to make them suit your needs better.

 

I'm still confused why you find it hard to Equ a quality headphone especially when you have managed to identify what you don't like about its sound signature.

 

Seems clear in the case of ASG-1 you find the Mids over powering so why not just try EQU'ing them down to suite your taste. Simple ?

 

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 I prefer someone else to do it for me when they design the headphones.

 

How can any manufacturer do that specifically for you & at the same time for everyone else's liking ?

 

 

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I think what his saying, and I agree, is: Having an earphone, where you don't have to EQ to make it bearable or sound better, is always best.

As if that was the case, you could take any earphone and make them sound good by EQ'ng each of them - of course they have different style/speed/quality of SQ, but still...

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LOL

 

archy121, I'm totally interested in discussing it with you, but I think we're getting off topic here...shoot me a PM or make a new thread if you want to chat it out!

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..you could take any earphone and make them sound good by EQ'ng each of them - of course they have different style/speed/quality of SQ, but still...


 

But still no ... friend.

 

You can equ any IEM much as you like but it wont create the quality characteristics such as clarity, detail, texture, sound stage, imaging etc . if they are not there already. They might sound better equalized to ones ears but will still be lacking in the characteristics that define high quality (top tier ?).

 

I'm under the strong impression the ASG-1 has all of these quality characteristics & the sound signature can be manipulated in terms of frequency bias (equalizing) to individuals likeness i.e too forward mids, not enough lows etc

 

 

Thanks for the Tips thread Bazirker. Keeping a close eye on it.

 

I think i will leave at that & get back to my popcorn

 

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You can equ any IEM much as you like but it wont create the quality characteristics such as clarity, detail, texture, sound stage, imaging etc . if they are not there already. They might sound better equalized to ones ears but will still be lacking in the characteristics that define high quality (top tier ?).

 


Oh don't get me wrong, I agree here, but when you take top-tiers, or at least mid ones then its possible to attain the same SQ as another earphone.

ie. adding bass to the W2's, might sound a little closer to the MG7's

post #937 of 2761
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

I think what his saying, and I agree, is: Having an earphone, where you don't have to EQ to make it bearable or sound better, is always best.

As if that was the case, you could take any earphone and make them sound good by EQ'ng each of them - of course they have different style/speed/quality of SQ, but still...


Well said.
In the end the end though, if EQ doesn't bother you - just slide away biggrin.gif i used to do it with the EM3pro redface.gif
post #938 of 2761
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Originally Posted by cute View Post


Nothing wrong with his approach, maybe just with his choice here....just stating the facts about the ASG-1....we all hear differently, that has been clarified!
 

 


I'll post my doubts if any once I get to hear it biggrin.gif
post #939 of 2761
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Originally Posted by dogears View Post


Well said.
In the end the end though, if EQ doesn't bother you - just slide away :D i used to do it with the EM3pro :o


I bought an app called "poweramp" for £3 on the Android Market, simply as I now prefer to EQ my MG7's

Or else they sound "flat" this principle now goes for the TFTA's too. 

 

 

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I'll post my doubts if any once I get to hear it :D


Can't wait to hear your impressions!
 

 

post #941 of 2761

It's official!! Led Zep loves the ASG-1 (or is that the ASG-1 loves Led Zep??)... Works for me either way....lol...

 

Listening to "When The Levee Breaks." Sometimes you only need one word like>>> "WOW!"

post #942 of 2761
This EQ topic is interesting, someone should make a thread.
I'm going to say he means a cheap crappy set of IEM's he EQ's because while he can't make it more technically capable, at least it'll have the sound signature he wants seems to be his point.

This is assuming my limited knowledge on speaker engineering:
My take on EQing quality IEM's is that like archy said, more time is spent tuning aspects of the sound that EQ doesn't really effect and the sound signature is designed to go with that, in harmony, holistically, a complete package, and I don't like to mess with the parts of a sum, whether I like it or not. There's also definite anti-brain burn in the sense that you know you are messing with an analog system digitally which can only be so good due to the inherent limitations and you will always subconsciously know that it's not right and that would drive me insane.
Edited by vwinter - 2/23/12 at 4:17pm
post #943 of 2761

If your IEMs gracefully accepts EQing - that's a big plus.

Yeah, another major category: ASG1 EQing biggrin.gif

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