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Originally Posted by WaLaoEh View Post

how is the soundstage on the ASG 1 compared to the IE8/IE80?

 

 

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Originally Posted by dosley01 View Post

It's actually hard to compare them, the ASG-1 has a very unique presentation.  While the IE8 has a big airy presentation, the ASG-1 has a very real, your there at a live venue presentation.  It's really unlike anything I have experienced before and honestly really needs to be heard to be appreciated.


 

I wanted to move this over here so that the Tip thread does not get cluttered.

post #917 of 2761
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Originally Posted by kangcore View Post

Bazirker, interesting that you should find the mids too forward on the ASG-1. I'm using a pair of mg7 Atrios with Softerwears as my onstage / casual listening IEM, and I find that its quite far from a V-shaped signature. Definitely a lot more middish and less high-end sparkly as the TF-10 (I only have a vague recollection of how they sound like) - detail freaks would definitely say that the Atrios are veiled in the high end - even more so for the earlier version, which I've also owned. That said, if you're into a bassy V-shaped signature you have got to check out the Final Audio Design Adagio IIIs. Huge bass and lovely top end detail. Am still fighting the urge to get a pair!

 

But hey, great review! Helps to shape expectations. If anything, its made me look forward a lot more to my pair. :D


 

The Atrios are one of the more neutral phones I use; my favorite are the DT990's.  The TF10 are indeed more V-shaped than the Atrios.  I haven't heard of the Adagios, I'll keep an eye out.



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Originally Posted by archy121 View Post



Thanks for your impressions to date.

 

 

Are you using Equalizers to adjust the frequency bands to your liking ?  V shaped arrangement being what you are after.

 

If not why have you not considered this ? Please don't say you are against the use of Equ'ing even when using a source such as a smartphone.


At present, I am not EQ'ing.  I will EQ once I figure out my preferred tips and am convinced that all aspects of break-in are complete.  In general, if I buy $12 phones, I will EQ with reckless abandon, but I'd rather my $200 phones sound great without me getting into EQ tweaks; then I spend more time fiddling with the EQ settings than I do just enjoying the phones.

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

I'm actually wondering how they sound in comparison to earphones I've heard....hmm

 

I would love a comparison, a more in-depth one of the MG7 v ASG-1 - 'm currently using the MG7's as my main pair, that said adding a little more bass via my ZO2.

So from what I gather, the ASG-1's will have:

-More soundstage

-3D effect

-Harder time fitting in my ears

-Less bass response (but that can be eq'ed via ZO2)

-Might be harsh sounding -> possibly like the EX700's?


I will try to compare the two directly this evening if I get a chance.

 

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Originally Posted by whitefroded View Post

So, here is my technique for opening the otter box:

 

Step 1: grab the box like a sandwich, with the ability to open the latch up towards your pointer fingers

Step 2: Place your thumbs underneath the latch

Step 3: Push down HARD with your fingers while pushing up and out with your thumbs.

 

This has worked really well for me when opening the case. Now if only I could figure out a way to close it...


Yeah, that's my technique too.  You have to push friggin hard!

 

Now I'm hungry...

 

post #920 of 2761
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Originally Posted by Bazirker View Post


I will try to compare the two directly this evening if I get a chance.

 


cheers buddy!

 

 

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Originally Posted by Bazirker View Post

..At present, I am not EQ'ing.  I will EQ once I figure out my preferred tips and am convinced that all aspects of break-in are complete.  In general, if I buy $12 phones, I will EQ with reckless abandon, but I'd rather my $200 phones sound great without me getting into EQ tweaks; ...



This is something that i have heard from many declared audiophiles & i don't understand the logic of to date.

 

Every phones is tuned/tweaked by the manufacturers to  deliver a particular type of signature.

 

For instance some will have more emphasis on highs others on lows & some on mids etc.

 

There is no one single perfect IEM that will suit every ear with every genre of music. Irrelevant of the price point.

 

 

And even if there was such an IEM than you still could question the ability of your source, amping, cabling, power etc .. to deliver the signature in its most authentic form.

 

For this reason I thing its fine to equalize & tune the phone yourself through equalization to achieve a sound signature closer to what you prefer.

If that is still not possible without distorting the quality of sound than we have an understandable issue.

 

 

 

When it comes to top end hi-fi rigs for thousands of pounds i don't  believe in need for equalizing as system can be balanced well in first place using correct individual components including minors such power cleaning/cabling & correct speaker stand supports.

 

 


Edited by archy121 - 2/23/12 at 10:00am
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I agree wholeheartedly!! And again, the ASG-1 is a in-ear monitor. There has been no illusion about it's main design and function. Most in-ear monitors that I know of have the highs tuned down a bit as to not damage musicians' ears if play at higher volumes onstage. That doesn't mean, however, that the extension and sparkle of the highs aren't there. Some should quit criticizing the IEM for what you think it should be (that's not to anyone in particular), and appreciate for the merits of what it is. Now, if what it is is not your sound signature, well that's one thing, but most of the detailed reviews and first impressions here have given extensive detail on what the sound signature is (and mostly everyone have been consistent with their views). So one can't argue they didn't know what they were getting before hand.

 

So I don't feel that a debate about a sound signature is valid. If the debate was about whether or not the IEMs weren't as technically brilliant as described, then that's a different issue altogether. Yet, no one that I know of who has heard the ASG-1 has questioned its technical brilliance (or ever whether it belongs in the top tier or not). May not be you sound signature (if you don't want to eq), but no one can really deny that it's a top tier.

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This is something that i have heard from many declared audiophiles & i don't understand the logic of to date.

 

Every phones is tuned/tweaked by the manufacturers to  deliver a particular type of signature.

 

For instance some will have more emphasis on highs others on lows & some on mids etc.

 

There is no one single perfect IEM that will suit every ear with every genre of music. Irrelevant of the price point.

 

 

And even if there was such an IEM than you still could question the ability of your source, amping, cabling, power etc .. to deliver the signature in its most authentic form.

 

For this reason I thing its fine to equalize & tune the phone yourself through equalization to achieve a sound signature closer to what you prefer.

If that is still not possible without distorting the quality of sound than we have an understandable issue.

 

 

 

When it comes to top end hi-fi rigs for thousands of pounds i don't  believe in need for equalizing as system can be balanced well in first place using correct individual components including minors such power cleaning/cabling & correct speaker stand supports.

 

 



 

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Originally Posted by archy121 View Post


This is something that i have heard from many declared audiophiles & i don't understand the logic of to date.

 

I have no philosophical qualms against EQ'ing, it's more of a practical thing.  I find it much more difficult to EQ a headphone which is of high quality and don't enjoy doing it.  

 

To clarify, when you have a crappy pair of phones, it's easy and obvious how you should EQ them to make them suit your needs better.  But with a nice set of phones, you're starting with a much better baseline in terms of audio quality, making it much more difficult (at least for me) to figure out how EQ changes can improve the sound not just on a particular track or album but for your music in general.  I get frustrated when I amp up the treble for one track and it sounds better then switch to a different style of music and find the same EQ'ing to be detrimental.  With hi-fi phones, your improvements are measured in inches, not miles, which makes it harder to evaluate what sounds better and what doesn't.  I prefer someone else to do it for me when they design the headphones.  If I don't like the phones and there isn't an obvious EQ fix, then I sell them and buy another pair to try out which I think will work out better.  I just don't enjoy screwing around with an EQ on each device I listen to (especially when they don't all have equalizers!) and with each pair of headphones, I'd rather just only own headphones that I like as is.


Edited by Bazirker - 2/23/12 at 10:53am
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Duly notedsmily_headphones1.gif

 

The TF18 is one of the best customs I've heard (if not the best) although I'm very interested in the Merlin. Once I get accustomed to the ASG-1, I will make a comparison with the TF18.
 

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Why I did sir. ph34r.gif



 

post #925 of 2761
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Originally Posted by Bazirker View Post

 

I have no philosophical qualms against EQ'ing, it's more of a practical thing.  I find it much more difficult to EQ a headphone which is of high quality and don't enjoy doing it.  

 



I'm looking forward to your mini MG7 comparison :D!

 

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Originally Posted by Bazirker View Post

 

I have no philosophical qualms against EQ'ing, it's more of a practical thing.  I find it much more difficult to EQ a headphone which is of high quality and don't enjoy doing it.  

 

To clarify, when you have a crappy pair of phones, it's easy and obvious how you should EQ them to make them suit your needs better.  But with a nice set of phones, you're starting with a much better baseline in terms of audio quality, making it much more difficult (at least for me) to figure out how EQ changes can improve the sound not just on a particular track or album but for your music in general.  I get frustrated when I amp up the treble for one track and it sounds better then switch to a different style of music and find the same EQ'ing to be detrimental.  With hi-fi phones, your improvements are measured in inches, not miles, which makes it harder to evaluate what sounds better and what doesn't.  I prefer someone else to do it for me when they design the headphones.  If I don't like the phones and there isn't an obvious EQ fix, then I sell them and buy another pair to try out which I think will work out better.  I just don't enjoy screwing around with an EQ on each device I listen to (especially when they don't all have equalizers!) and with each pair of headphones, I'd rather just only own headphones that I like as is.


Once you find that perfect pair of IEM's, let us all know....the ASG-1 was designed as a musician's monitor, that was clearly their intention.  Audiophile usage is just an aside, that some of us can take advantage of, and for others they are not a good fit.....no denying that fact!
 

 

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Originally Posted by cute View Post

Once you find that perfect pair of IEM's, let us all know....


Even if he does, it won't be everyone's perfect pair, just as the ASG-1, wonderful as it is, can't possibly be for everyone. And yes, as you pointed out, audiophiles aren't the main target for it, even though if audiophiles hadn't shown an interest in custom monitors targeted to musicians, we would never have seen others targeted to audiophiles.


Edited by Sinocelt - 2/23/12 at 11:17am
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^Well said cute.

 

Also, I just posted my UE tip review.

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^+1. And that is Barzirker's opinion, preference and quest so I think we all should respect that cool.gif + I really wouldn't think you can change his approach biggrin.gif
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^Well said cute.

 

Also, I just posted my UE tip review.



This review is excellent.

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