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post #271 of 2761

^My exact thoughts.

post #272 of 2761
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Originally Posted by dosley01 View Post

Did that affect the bass?



Turned the screw back in.....bass still sounds normal, still centered with natural thump, just as before!  Thanks for pointing that out, since this is something I tweeked.....I will be listening for how the bass may have been affected!

 

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Thanks for your post @project86 good find!  Didn't see a vent hole.....and haven't heard from Dale, left a message.  But I did a little tweek, I loosened the screw to about half way out, (screw closest to the tip).......the problem has dissappeared, I can now put them in, take them out move my head/jaw, no squishy/crackling now!

 

Put that to bed.........resolved thanks to another headfi member @project86!

 


Interesting! I wonder what happened? 

 

Maybe the "flaw" in the valve had to do with it being slightly "squished" in the shell, and by releasing a tiny bit of pressure from the faceplate, you just fixed the issue? Just an idea. I'd still wait for Dale to reply as I'm sure he will be interested in hearing your new development. 

 

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Interesting! I wonder what happened? 

 

Maybe the "flaw" in the valve had to do with it being slightly "squished" in the shell, and by releasing a tiny bit of pressure from the faceplate, you just fixed the issue? Just an idea. I'd still wait for Dale to reply as I'm sure he will be interested in hearing your new development. 

 


Matt is going to forward this on to Dale.....just to see if I affected the bass by loosining the screw!  Doesn't sound like it to me.....bass is still strong and centered!

 

No driver flex at all now with silicone tips either!  Good to go!
 

 


Edited by cute - 2/14/12 at 11:26am
post #275 of 2761

Have mine in hand but won't get a chance to listen until later in the day...

post #276 of 2761

First off, I'm going to contradict myself when I say, I'm bowing out...  I know I said I was going to have an open mind with these, but I could burn them in for weeks and they still would not have the sound signature that I enjoy.

 

This actually makes me somewhat sad, the ASG-1 has everything going for it that I want in an IEM.  Now that I have the fit and tip issues resolved, there is nothing to complain about.  I'm not sure if 18 hours of burn-in and 8 hours of listening is completely fair but I just know that these are not what I'm looking for.  On a plus side, it does tell me to take a break for awhile as I guess I do have what I'm looking for in both IEMS and headphones. 

 

I find this to be a unique and great quality IEM, it's just not for me.  If you really do not like the IE8 then this might be the IEM for you as I find it to be it's polar opposite.

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 So, which one do you think is replacable, my ears or my ear phones?



LOL

 

Well played!

post #278 of 2761
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Originally Posted by dosley01 View Post

First off, I'm going to contradict myself when I say, I'm bowing out...  I know I said I was going to have an open mind with these, but I could burn them in for weeks and they still would not have the sound signature that I enjoy.

 

This actually makes me somewhat sad, the ASG-1 has everything going for it that I want in an IEM.  Now that I have the fit and tip issues resolved, there is nothing to complain about.  I'm not sure if 18 hours of burn-in and 8 hours of listening is completely fair but I just know that these are not what I'm looking for.  On a plus side, it does tell me to take a break for awhile as I guess I do have what I'm looking for in both IEMS and headphones. 

 

I find this to be a unique and great quality IEM, it's just not for me.  If you really do not like the IE8 then this might be the IEM for you as I find it to be it's polar opposite.


Would you say that the ASG-1 has the sound of a live performance?  Just wonderin!
 

 

post #279 of 2761
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Pros for me so far:

-These are a very lively IEM, they add somewhat of a live performance signature to ambient recordings.  I haven't heard them, but these are what i would envision the Monster Gratitude to sound like.

 

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So, shotgunshane initially scared me...I have had over a hour with the ASG-1 (listening on flat through my Sony S545). And my very early initial impressions are.............................

 

 

GOT DAMN!! ksc75smile.gif... I'll be back in a few moments to add to this....

 

Here's the deal for me: I read and I read well in anticipation of receiving these today. I read what the company and the retailers said these were going to sound like, and I read initial (not too favorable) impressions from those who received theirs before me. To be honest, I was prepared to expect the worst. But in between time of anticipating my chance to put the ASG-1 into my ear canals, I asked myself what was the main common denominator coming from those who didn't seem all that impressed with the ASG-1. In my mind the issue with the tips kept popping up the most. For some reason fit of the body of the IEM wasn't too much of a concern.

 

Anyway, so when I went to work this morning I went prepared to meet the ASG-1. How would I do that? Well simple, I went with an arsenal of wide-nozzle tips ready to find the perfect fit. This made sense to me because rarely am I satisfied with the tip that come with an IEM. I usually find that the stock tips of one particular IEM works better with a different IEM. Knowing that the diameter was pretty wide and that I would need a good seal to get the promised sound, I settled for the Senn large black double-flange tips that came with either an IE8 or IE7 I use to own. The fit was perfect and made in audio heaven!!

 

By the way, the fellas are right that these IEMs are very nice looking in person and better than you could have imagine by the photos. Nice solid construction and feel. And although the cable looks like a stock Westone, I don't believe it is. It feels a little lighter than the Westone to me, but a well constructed cable nonetheless. I wonder if it's their own in-house cable?

 

Anyway, so with the Senn double-flanges on, and these looking like a smaller version - shell-wise - of my 1964-Q, I decided to insert these IEMs in the same way I would insert a custom IEM into my ear canal: bring the IEM forward, push the tip in (a much shallow push in this case), and twist backwards into place. IT WORKED!! The ASG-1 is perfect fit for my ears. Once locked in, the earpiece did not move. I shook and turned my head trying to make it fall out to no avail. Perfect!

 

Now for the sound. I won't get into too many details right now, but bottom line, I had the complete opposite experience than most of you did on first listen. The first thing I noticed was the mids. Beautifully detailed mids. I'm loving it already (and I believe in burn-in). Second, the bass was there and nice and rich and not muddy. I don't find the soundstage, however, particularly wide or small. I find it somewhere in the middle. But the as someone mentioned earlier, the sound is very tall and 3-Dish. It's sound like a headphone to me more so then IEM. In comparison, the Sony XBA-4 has a much wider soundstage, but the music sounds thinner than the music does in the ASG-1. You can particularly hear this in the strings being plucked on the electric and acoustic guitars (and bass). I was mainly listening to the Black Crowes acoustic double album (where some electric guitars are being utilized). 

 

I stil like the Sony, but it doesn't compare to the sound of the ASG-1 (to my ears). Now, dosley01 is correct. If you are coming from the IE8  and love that sound signature, these are not for you!! The IE8 is much warmer in its sound signature and veil sounding to my ears. While I wouldn't call the ASG-1 cold or analytical, it is much cooler than the IE8. And it's much flater in its sound. 

 

I would describe the sound so far as being like a cooler but more dynamic W4. The W4 can sound a tad bit veiled compared to these. These don't sound veile at all to me. What it sounds like is a very detailed luke-warmish dynamic driver monitor with lots of details in the mids. The highs are just right for my ears (not harsh at all, but not too smooth). The timbre gives a very natural and cohesive sound with all instruments in this IEM. It sounds like a more serious FXT90. If you want a more fun sound, go with the FXT90 or SE215. These are pushing in the GR07 area, but I don't think the Vsonic sound is as flat as these. The bass is plentiful, but never overly bombastic. I haven't listened to these with my amps yet. Just straight on flat with the Sony S545 DAP, and this is what I'm hearing.

If these continue to improve with burn-in along these lines, I can see the ASG-1 quickly becoming my favorite universal (if not constantly jockeying for position with the RE262, GR07, FXT90 and W4). So yes, I'm liking these out of the box. Now I'm about to try it with the E10 amp, then E10/E9 combo. I also think I'm going to put some longer double-flanges on it (from my RE262 stash). That's it for now fellas. Happy listening.


Edited by ericp10 - 2/15/12 at 9:52am
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This will make me more interested in the custom, and especially the dual driver if it comes out as a custom... But I think this drier flat but dynamic sound (mainly what I hear in monitors) is shaping up to be my favorite sound signature.

 

Recommendation for Dale: although I generally don't wax up a lot, I think you should try to develop some type of "wax trap" filter toward the front of the nozzle to lessen the chance of some users damaging the sound through wax buildup. There has to be some material you can use that won't affect the sound signature I would think. That's the only glaring thing I can see as an improvement needed for this IEM thus far. The craftsmanship is very nice....


Edited by ericp10 - 2/14/12 at 2:36pm
post #282 of 2761

Cheers Eric.

 

Seems there is hope in this one. What a relief.

 

It was earlier described as having a very forward sound - more so than FXT90's. Is this true ? I'm concerned about it being fatiguing.

 

Also I'm rather prone to trouble with highs. Smooth highs are all my ears can take. How do they compare to EX600 or better IE7 ?
 

Any comments on separation ability compared to above ? or UM3X ?

 

 

 

 

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Hi archy121... I need more time with them and I will try to answer  your questions (sans the UM3X, I've never heard that particular IEM)... Oh, I owned the IE7 so long ago that I can't remember its sound signature.

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Originally Posted by archy121 View Post

Cheers Eric.

 

Seems there is hope in this one. What a relief.

 

It was earlier described as having a very forward sound - more so than FXT90's. Is this true ? I'm concerned about it being fatiguing.

 

Also I'm rather prone to trouble with highs. Smooth highs are all my ears can take. How do they compare to EX600 or better IE7 ?
 

Any comments on separation ability compared to above ? or UM3X ?

 

 

 

 



 


Edited by ericp10 - 2/14/12 at 3:01pm
post #284 of 2761
Eric you pretty much nailed these. I'm glad you like them.

And thanks for comparison to the W4, GR07 and FXT90, I can probably rule those out from my want list. I guess I have to wait out the rumored IE10.
Edited by dosley01 - 2/14/12 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

So, shotgunshane initially scared me...I have has over an hour with the ASG-1 (listening on flat through my Sony S545). And my very early initial impressions are.............................

 

 

GOT DAMN!! ksc75smile.gif... I'll be back in a few moments to add to this....

 

Here's the deal for me: I read and I read well in anticipating on receiving these today. I read what the company and the retailers said these were going to sound like, and I read initial (not too favorable) impressions from those who received theirs before me. To be honest, I was prepared to expect the worst. But in between time of anticipating my chance to put the ASG-1 into my ear canals, I asked myself what was the main common denominator coming from those who didn't seem all that impressed with the ASG-1. In my mind the issue with the tips kept popping up the most. For some reason fit of the body of the IEM wasn't too much of a concern.

 

Anyway, so when I went to work this morning I went prepared to meet the ASG-1. How would I do that? Well simple, I went with an arsenal of wide-nozzle tips ready to find the perfect fit. This made sense to me because rarely am I satisfied with the tip that come with an IEM. I usually find that the stock tips of one particular IEM works better with a different IEM. Knowing that the diameter was pretty wide and that I would need a good seal to get the promised sound, I settled for the Senn large black double-flange tips that came with either an IE8 or IE7 I use to own. The fit was perfect and made in audio heaven!!

 

By the way, the fellas are right that these IEMs are very nice looking in person and better than you could have imagine by the photos. Nice solid construction and feel. And although the cable looks like a stock Westone, I don't believe it is. It feels a little lighter than the Westone to me, but a well constructed cable nonetheless. I wonder if it's their own in-house cable?

 

Anyway, so with the Senn double-flanges on, and these looking like a smaller version - shell-wise - of my 1964-Q, I decided to insert these IEMs in the same way I would insert a custom IEM into my ear canal: bring the IEM forward, push the tip in (a much shallow push in this case), and twist backwards into place. IT WORKED!! The ASG-1 is perfect fit for my ears. Once locked in, the earpiece did not move. I shook and turned my head trying to make it fall out to no avail. Perfect!

 

Now for the sound. I won't get into too many details right now, but bottom line, I had the complete opposite experience than most of you did on first listen. The first thing I noticed was the mids. Beautifully detailed mids. I'm loving it already (and I believe in burn-in). Second, the bass was there and nice and rich and not muddy. I don't find the soundstage, however, particularly wide or small. I find it somewhere in the middle. But the as someone mentioned earlier, the sound is very tall and 3-Dish. It's sound like a headphone to me more so then IEM. In comparison, the Sony XBA-4 has a much wider soundstage, but the music sounds thinner than the music does in the ASG-1. You can particularly hear this in the strings being plucked on the electric and acoustic guitars (and bass). I was mainly listening to the Black Crowes acoustic double album (where some electric guitars are being utilized). 

 

I stil like the Sony, but it doesn't compare to the sound of the ASG-1 (to my ears). Now, dosley01 is correct. If you are coming from the IE8  and love that sound signature, these are not for you!! The IE8 is much warmer in its sound signature and veil sounding to my ears. While I wouldn't call the ASG-1 cold or analytical, it is much cooler than the IE8. And it's much flater in its sound. 

 

I would describe the sound so far as being like a cooler but more dynamic W4. The W4 can sound a tad bit veiled compared to these. These don't sound veile at all to me. What it sounds like is a very detailed luke-warmish dynamic driver monitor with lots of details in the mids. The highs are just right for my ears (not harsh at all, but not too smooth). The timbre gives a very natural and cohesive sound with all instruments in this IEM. It sounds like a more serious FXT90. If you want a more fun sound, go with the FXT90 or SE215. These are pushing in the GR07 area, but I don't think the Vsonic sound is as flat as these. The bass is plentiful, but never overly bombastic. I haven't listened to these with my amps yet. Just straight on flat with the Sony S545 DAP, and this is what I'm hearing.

If these continue to improve with burn-in along these lines, I can see the ASG-1 quickly becoming my favorite universal (if not constantly jockeying for position with the RE262, GR07, FXT90 and W4). So yes, I'm liking these out of the box. Now I'm about to try it with the E10 amp, then E10/E9 combo. I also think I'm going to put some longer double-flanges on it (from my RE262 stash). That's it for now fellas. Happy listening.


Exactly.......................Of all those listed, IMO they are a better W4/W4R in sound sig, better cleaner bass than W4/W4R, all the detail is there, and a little more to the highs than the W4/W4R, still have good separation.....and the sound has a real "live" sound to instraments and vocals....soundstage equal to XBA-4.  I do not regret having "had" the RE262, GR07, FXT90, and W4R, although if I had the W4R agin with the cable from the ASG-1, I may still have the W4R. These are only my opinions!
 

 

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