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post #2086 of 2761
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Originally Posted by archy121 View Post

 

 

What a mesmerising Track. I will be buying this album -  Thanks !

 

 

I dug out my old IE7's to A/B against the Aursonics using basic laptop sound.

 

Without any EQU. I was able to hear the cymbals come in at 2:26 almost equally loud on both phones.

 

Initially the IE7 sounded better because the mids weren't so over powering like Aurisonics & piano/violins were drowning the cymbals in the back.

 

Once I got hold of full MP3, i was able to EQU the Aurisonics & there was more presence & clarity in the cymbals.

 

A/B'ing the two reminded of why some love the IE7 for its mids even over IE8. Warm & lush compared to Aurisonics relatively dryer sound.

 

With Aurisonics the track is comparatively lacking background atmosphere such as wind sounds (1.00) & the  faint distant echo singing  (1:16) (full album MP3 track@320kbps). Although they are there, they are a little fainter & not as engaging with EQU on/off. I noticed before & now it has been further confirmed with this track that the Aursonics are not particularly good at portraying small background nuances compared to both EPH100 & IE7*. IE7 will have to remain in collection as it seems it is still the king of classical for me.

 

I'm close to 100 hours burn on the Aurisonics & using UE tips.

 

 

It's been interesting comparing the IE7 against the Aurisonics in the classical genre. More food for thought.

 

Right now i'm reminded of the saying 'Old Is Gold'

 

 

 

ASG-1 EQU 29Mar12.jpg

 

 

* EDIT

 

Swapping tips to Meelec Long Single Flange has helped recover some background detail but still not on same level as IE7. Still more detail & ambiance with IE7.

On the positive side once the cymbals do come in (3.20 album ver EQU'd) the whole track gets busy with drums/violins/piano/cymbals & the Aurisonics hold it together rather nicely through to the calm at 4:50. In particular at 4.10 the cymbals become very busy & sound less diffused/blurred on the Aurisonics compared to IE7.

 

Need more listening time. Need better source. Need sleep.

 

GN

 

Awesome thanks for your impressions! You're eq settings are pretty close to what I prefer for the ASG's. I should also note that the treble in this track is more easily heard at higher volumes. Anyone who tends to listen at lower volumes would have trouble making out any cymbal decay for those first ten or so seconds. 

 

With the right eq these sound really really good. They can be more realistic sounding than the FXT90's. There, I said it. May JVC strike me dead.  
 

 

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Yeah the right volume will be depend if they have enough power. A Ipod alone wont have the power even at full volume.

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

Awesome thanks for your impressions! You're eq settings are pretty close to what I prefer for the ASG's. I should also note that the treble in this track is more easily heard at higher volumes. Anyone who tends to listen at lower volumes would have trouble making out any cymbal decay for those first ten or so seconds. 

 

With the right eq these sound really really good. They can be more realistic sounding than the FXT90's. There, I said it. May JVC strike me dead.  
 

 



 

post #2088 of 2761
The ASG-1s were horrible in my opinion, veiled, recessed, and downright horrible.... but i have been using a miracle for a year.

as for price range on both ends of the spectrum, i would take an ER-4 or IE8 over the ASG-1 ANYDAY of the week. For being in the same price brackets the ASG underperforms
post #2089 of 2761
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The ASG-1s were horrible in my opinion, veiled, recessed, and downright horrible.... but i have been using a miracle for a year.
as for price range on both ends of the spectrum, i would take an ER-4 or IE8 over the ASG-1 ANYDAY of the week. For being in the same price brackets the ASG underperforms


OK, you give very little information on the problem here.  What is veiled, what is recessed, and what is downright horrible.  Specifically.  How long have you had them, how long have they been used, how long have they been burned in?

 

Could it also be that this may not be your signature?

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they sound almost analytical and cold to me.... which is odd considering most dynamics are very warm..... burned for a cupple hours... but thats not an excuse considering the amound of dynamics i have owned (30 or 40 top IEMS) and none of them sounded this bad right out the box.

the entire thing is veiled and recessed, cept for maybe the vocals which are a tee forward.

also they feel cheap, and its a bitch to get a good seal there crappy build. I had a universal miracle which has a way way better fit and was built way better. Yes i know the miracle is 729 dollars more than the ASG-1.... but i just expected more. I enjoy the R-07 much more than this sucker.

the soundstage just seems too distant to me aswell, almost like you outside of the concert, rather than in it.

but like i said, grain of salt as i have been using a miracle and merlin for a year now, i thik i expected a lot from it. idk
post #2091 of 2761
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Originally Posted by Evilcalyptic View Post

they sound almost analytical and cold to me.... which is odd considering most dynamics are very warm..... burned for a cupple hours... but thats not an excuse considering the amound of dynamics i have owned (30 or 40 top IEMS) and none of them sounded this bad right out the box.
the entire thing is veiled and recessed, cept for maybe the vocals which are a tee forward.
also they feel cheap, and its a bitch to get a good seal there crappy build. I had a universal miracle which has a way way better fit and was built way better. Yes i know the miracle is 729 dollars more than the ASG-1.... but i just expected more. I enjoy the R-07 much more than this sucker.
the soundstage just seems too distant to me aswell, almost like you outside of the concert, rather than in it.
but like i said, grain of salt as i have been using a miracle and merlin for a year now, i thik i expected a lot from it. idk


These have an analytical (midrange) sound to them (IDK if that could be the problem, maybe analytical midrange isn't for you).  With burn in, they change a lot though.  Mids tone down, the bass comes in slowly (it won't get too warm or bodied though, it's thin; yes it can also be described slightly as dry).  After about 120 hours burn in the highs come in (but aren't as plentiful as most analytics; about as plentiful as something with a "sweet", by definition, sound).  A lot of people will disagree with me when I say these have an analytical sound signature, but to my ears, it's a classic analytical sound (minus a little high end quantity; but those are starting to come in now). 

 

Most people hated these out of the box.  I didn't "hate" them out of the box, but I prefer them burned in a lot more than out of the box.  The sound opens up a log with these dynamics, and burn in is just large with these. 

 

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Note about the change: the change is small, but noticeable.  Added up, they will make a big change overall.  As each thing changes, you gain here, lose here, gain here again, etc, the entire signature of the ASGs just change to something different.  It's like it matures.  It starts as a loudmouth five year old all the way up to a grown adult that learns to control himself (better).


Edited by tinyman392 - 3/28/12 at 10:03pm
post #2092 of 2761
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Originally Posted by bmiamihk View Post

Yeah the right volume will be depend if they have enough power. A Ipod alone wont have the power even at full volume.



 


 

The main issue with listening to it with Apple devices is the lack of custom EQU settings. Get the 'EQU' App otherwise forget it.

 

I find the Aurisonics surprisingly  easy to drive using my X1060 Walkman. I thought with a big 15mm driver they would need more power but not the case at all.Two notches louder than Yamaha EPH100 micro drivers drivers & about same as IE7's.

 

The Aurisonics work really well with X1060 when i'm out. It feels pure luxury to my ears & I shouldn't be hearing such quality on such a rudimentary scale - standard portable player with 320kbps mp3 tracks. Of course it can't beat the quality of the sound when listening with the optimised PC rig which improves it couple of notches higher but at a much greater cost. I'm very glad of this as my ear phones were purchased mainly for on the go use.

 

I have a few issues with the Aurisonics sound signature but will leave to touch this in more detail at a later date when i have done more evaluating. 

 

 

 

asg-1 walkman equ.JPG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by archy121 - 3/29/12 at 3:50am
post #2093 of 2761
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post



OK, you give very little information on the problem here.  What is veiled, what is recessed, and what is downright horrible.  Specifically.  How long have you had them, how long have they been used, how long have they been burned in?

 

Could it also be that this may not be your signature?



Veiled something along the lines of "covered up" or "blocked to a degree" and recessed sorta means "pushed back" if I have my definitions right. I notice this a lot without the EQ 

post #2094 of 2761
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Veiled something along the lines of "covered up" or "blocked to a degree" and recessed sorta means "pushed back" if I have my definitions right. I notice this a lot without the EQ 


I think to tinyman was asking what frequency was: recessed, veiled and down horrible. As he says it is but does give any details for what was etc. he slags it off but doesn't say why. I also think he could of done better than two hours of burn in to really decide!
post #2095 of 2761
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I think to tinyman was asking what frequency was: recessed, veiled and down horrible. As he says it is but does give any details for what was etc. he slags it off but doesn't say why. I also think he could of done better than two hours of burn in to really decide!


I'm gonna give it at least 50 and give the filter material a try before writing an in depth review

post #2096 of 2761
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I'm gonna give it at least 50 and give the filter material a try before writing an in depth review


For the time it takes id do 100/120 hours to really get their highs to truly develop! I will also write a review in depth but I will wait till I get my red giant ao3 which I'm hoping will compare nicely to my asg-1s and like you I'll wait to try filters!
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I have a love/hate relationship with this Otterbox case.  It's so nice when the headphones are in them...but I hate opening it so much...might try to file down the plastic a hair to make it easier to open.  (Might also ruin the case in the process!)

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Originally Posted by Bazirker View Post

I have a love/hate relationship with this Otterbox case.  It's so nice when the headphones are in them...but I hate opening it so much...might try to file down the plastic a hair to make it easier to open.  (Might also ruin the case in the process!)



Thats what I did, used some sandpaper to shave a few mms off the black plastic latch.  Do it carefully and slowly though, leave enough of that latch left to ensure that the box will still close...  Anyway back to the sound, I got these a while back, and probably burned them in for over 75 hrs at this point.  Less dry sounding as compared to fresh out of the box, still mids dominated though no longer as brittle (shouty?) as previously, and bass has developed into a nicely textured bass.  Very different from the SM3s, one is thick and lush, the other exciting and in ya face


Edited by rapier84 - 3/29/12 at 7:25am
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Trolling is alive and well I see.. Happy listening... beerchug.gif

post #2100 of 2761
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

For the time it takes id do 100/120 hours to really get their highs to truly develop! I will also write a review in depth but I will wait till I get my red giant ao3 which I'm hoping will compare nicely to my asg-1s and like you I'll wait to try filters!


That's an odd comparison to make, but okay, whatever.

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