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Originally Posted by kenman345 View Post

Nicely done. Though after being a member on Head-Fi, while my wallet may be empty, I don't feel like $299 for ASG-1's is expensive. Cant wait to get my AS-1b's, If they are anything like the great customer service I have gone through when ordering them, they're going to be amazing.
 


oh hell no - that's not what I'm implying!

They are worth more than the IE8's - they REALLY are different than anything I've ever heard.

So I'm giving them time to settle + brain-burn-in

 

But after spending a lot of money in the last 3 months...(over £1,000) - that's when the wallet hurts :P

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Time to compare and contrast first impressions!

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

 

-Sounds like the IE8's - very distant music

Yes and no, sounds very closed off (studio like environment)

-Sound is very flat, but then every now and then u get mid spikes didn't realise it until i heard it on certain songs - made me almost jump

Noticed almost immediately, it effectively killed half my iPhone library

-Bass is there - nothing earth shaking, out of memory: Better than the IE7/8's, better than the W2's - not the same quantity as the C710's nor TFTA, nor MG7's

Takes some looking for and adjusting because of the mids boost

-Highs feel a little rolled off

Yes

-I have now EQ'ed highs with a bump and mids with a slump

Have yet to try

-No fit issues with the left driver - with the right one....a whole different story.

I had problems with the memory wire part was annoying but I think I got it

Hardly was going in - and as I got the earphones off, the tip was stuck in my ear. These tips need replacing (got the tx-500's with me)

-Wire is by far the best I have ever used

Helix cable ^_^

-Otterbox was a pain - but got there after 5 attempts.

FIRST ATTEMPT (I hold it in one hand for support and use the other thumb to open it)

-Earphones are not BIG - people complaining about size, should try the Westone range and the Shure range. Of course they are big vs the MG7's, but they aren't something that makes me go: OMG They are SOO big!! - no they are quite fine, for normal size ears :)

-Isolation is good, as one can imagine - due to it covering your ear

Haven't tested enough to comment

-No problems out of the SGS nor ZO2 - no hissing.

 

THESE DEFINITELY NEED BURN-IN

 

So far - I find that the music is far away from me, and everything is too precise.

That said, anyone contemplating the IE8/0 purchase should not even think twice in buying these.

These by far beat the IE8's IMO (out the box)

Debatable, currently I prefer the IE8's more but lets see if this changes, if I remember correctly you were never a fan of the IE8's

 



 

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Originally Posted by jrkong View Post

Time to compare and contrast first impressions!

 

I utterly hate the IE8's due to their soundstage.

Now the ASG-1's have a similar, not exact soundstage - however, instead of being like the IE8's the ASG-1's feel a little more special.

 

IE8's and 7's sounded like Monster turbine pro golds, but put about 10miles away. (I mean not exactly etc, but you get the idea)

The ASG-1's sound like nothing I've ever heard before - be that good or bad - i rather not jump to ANY conclusions -> which means, I like the ASG-1's but so far I'm preferring my MG7's and MTD's -> And with some burn-in after a week, I should be able to make my mind up out of the 3 (4 incl 2nd pair of MDT's), and put the ones I don't like as much on the FS forums.

 

So far I'm letting them burn-in to some armin van burren :P

In the mean time I'm giving my MDT's a listen...

And out the box MDT>MG7's

 

So MG7's are looking to go on the FS forums. (although that might change)

I'll refrain in doing so for a week.

 

I'll be using the ASG-1's and MDT's for a week, + giving them burn in over the weekend + whilst not listening to one, give the other set burn in via music playing on another source.

 

That said, for monitoring, soundstage:
ASG-1's hands down is the best I've heard.

Beating around 20 or so IEM's - isn't something that happens every day.

 

I don't think the IE8's, or se535's come close.

but for personal listening to the music I listen to, and my taste, it might not be for me

 

Sounds like I'm jumping to conclusions - but I'm really not - just stating my opinions :)


Edited by Totally Dubbed - 3/28/12 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

The treble did come in better for me.  Right now, it just lacks clarity every now and then because it can become hidden in the background too far at times (in some songs).  However, the dullness is gone, and sparkle has come in greatly.  It's not bad treble, it's actually quite good; but it's not perfect yet.

 

If any of you are interested, my review can be found here: http://www.ifans.com/blog/43537/


I agree entirely. I think that the background nature of the treble is particularly noticeable with cymbals and hi-hats, which are almost completely overshadowed by the mids. When I EQ the highs forward however, I notice the same - good treble. It's grown with brain / burn-in too, and I now find it more crisp, precise and articulate. Not sparkly to my ears, but by no means dull. And great review by the way!

 

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Anyone try to gage high end extension on these?
I personally would like a bit more more sparkle in the treble but I don't hear anything inherently wrong with the highs, unfiltered. It is what it is. Accept it or move on. There are other choices out there that'll make you happier. It's like putting new hair and makeup on a girl that just rubs you the wrong way biggrin.gif couldn't help it.
They do EQ well and I'd guess Dale recommends it because he knows the sound isn't for everyone and it would ensure the highest acceptance rate for a very capable IEM.

 

Again, agree 100%. These are the first IEMs I've EQd since my first / entry pair. Although I was initially very reluctant... I'm genuinely surprised at how good the results are. Dale was right in saying that they respond well. My replacement pair will coming with the filter installed, so I will EQ my current pair to exactly mirror the sound, and post it.

 

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

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How do you compare the ASG's to the FXT90 and GR07 then? A comparison like this should shine some light on whether our ASG's are actually different (which I assume they must be considering our impressions). How about on a treble emphasis scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most treble. Here's how I hear it:

 

DBA-02: 9

FXT90: 7

GR07: 5

ASG-1: 2

 


I thought about these carefully, one by one, convinced that I'd say something different. Turns out I wouldn't change a thing, at least not by memory.

 

 

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Originally Posted by eclipes View Post

anyone try other IEM cables for the ASG-1, i like the stock cable but finding it a bit too long. Also even though there is enough sub bass and impact but i don't think the bass is deep enough. I remember using Moon Audio Silver Dragon on my Um3x which gave extremely deep bass so wonder if anyone will pair the silver dragon with ASG-1

 

Yes, they will. My Silver Dragon should be arriving sometime this week, so I'll be sure to post impressions :)
 


 

 

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FYI: I really feel that the STOCK tips are not made for the ASG-1's

 

I mean..I've spent 5mins trying to get the small on on the driver!

 

and oddly, enough - i get a lil bit of driver flex, and "vaccuming" issues when I put the stock tips in.


Edited by Totally Dubbed - 3/28/12 at 7:23am
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Glad they've finally arrived TotallyDubbed. Let them burn in really well. Can't wait for more initial impressions.

Agrees with archy about the highs. 

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My ZO2 does wonders...!

Loving the bass from the ASG-1's

Giving them some burn-in right now, and listening to the MTD's

 

Check my updated 2 pics :P

 

 



 

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Glad they've finally arrived TotallyDubbed. Let them burn in really well. Can't wait for more initial impressions.

 

will do bro - its a given with dynamics. (in my book)

 

 

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I need to test them a whole lot more but the sound sig is really make or break for me right now. If it gets along with the track, it's amazing, If it doesn't it's terrible

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Originally Posted by jrkong View Post

I need to test them a whole lot more but the sound sig is really make or break for me right now. If it gets along with the track, it's amazing, If it doesn't it's terrible

If your think their amazing on some songs already with a bit more burn in your gonna love it even more! Hopefully the burn in will make it more bearable on the 'terrible' tracks! 

The tracks that you say are terrible are they the same bit rate and quality as the others or it just the genre they don't mix with in your eyes (ears)?

 

 



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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

How do you guys change the cables?

 

Also, calling all ASG-1 users! I'm requesting a little help. Check out this song and tell me how loud the cymbal is to you. It comes in on 2:26.

 

 

 


I heard it loud, it went over the rest of the frequency range but it was not as crisp and clear as my dbas! It may have even gone louder over the frequency range than the dbas!

 


Edited by Swimsonny - 3/28/12 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny

 

I heard it loud, it went over the rest of the frequency range but it was not as crisp and clear as my dbas! It may have even gone louder over the frequency range than the dbas!

 

The cymbals starting at 2:26 were loud to you? On my ASG's they are completely buried in the mix and can only be heard as a light tapping with no sustain at all. EQ drastically changes this by uncovering a lot of detail that is otherwise obscured. Can anyone else weigh in? May be time to return my pair...

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It wasn't loud but it was definitely present. I definitely didn't hear it as a tapping like you do, it was present and audible, but not overpowering. Definitely could get lost in the mix at the beginning, but slowly became louder and became very clear by the end of it.   Then again, I do have a filtered version, but I'm pretty sure the high's aren't boosted by the filters. EQ made this song really shine in terms of the cymbals and made things more neutral and dry. It was definitely not as present compared to HF3s or the UE 700s without EQ.

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

I utterly hate the IE8's due to their soundstage.

Now the ASG-1's have a similar, not exact soundstage - however, instead of being like the IE8's the ASG-1's feel a little more special.

Same here, bigger isn't always better, but fortunately, ASG-1s don't yet have the same soundstage as IE8s.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

That said, for monitoring, soundstage:
ASG-1's hands down is the best I've heard.

Beating around 20 or so IEM's - isn't something that happens every day.

 

I don't think the IE8's, or se535's come close.

but for personal listening to the music I listen to, and my taste, it might not be for me

 

Sounds like I'm jumping to conclusions - but I'm really not - just stating my opinions :)


Again, I feel compelled to repeat myself: ASG-1s are NOT monitoring IEMs, not with this kind of spikes in the higher mids. Monitoring IEMs/headphones are supposed to be non fatiguing. Here we have some spikes nearly making your ears ring when you listen powerful female voices. Having to EQ down from -2 to -5dB in some areas is not my idea of monitoring IEMs. Maybe they will become with the filters, but not now.

 

As for comparisons, I would not put IE8 and SE535 in the same bag.

While IE8 have a great soundstage, they are just too limited for separation and details.

SE535 on the other hand provide great details (especially in the mids) and I clearly don't think that my SE535Ltd suffer from a comparison with ASG-1. After 100h of burn-in, I still prefer SE535Ltd by a comfortable margin : more details (yes, without a doubt), less fatiguing, more natural with drums, and I have become addicted to the immersion they provide, while ASG-1 put things more in front of you (which some people seem to prefer, it's a matter of taste). wink.gif

 


 

 

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

The cymbals starting at 2:26 were loud to you? On my ASG's they are completely buried in the mix and can only be heard as a light tapping with no sustain at all. EQ drastically changes this by uncovering a lot of detail that is otherwise obscured. Can anyone else weigh in? May be time to return my pair...


Ok loud is an overstatement but no they were their and separated nicely! Bare in mind though that I have had at least 115 hours burn in now! But now they were their clearly!
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

How do you guys change the cables?

 

Also, calling all ASG-1 users! I'm requesting a little help. Check out this song and tell me how loud the cymbal is to you. It comes in on 2:26.

 

 

 

 

 

What a mesmerising Track. I will be buying this album -  Thanks !

 

 

I dug out my old IE7's to A/B against the Aursonics using basic laptop sound.

 

Without any EQU. I was able to hear the cymbals come in at 2:26 almost equally loud on both phones.

 

Initially the IE7 sounded better because the mids weren't so over powering like Aurisonics & piano/violins were drowning the cymbals in the back.

 

Once I got hold of full MP3, i was able to EQU the Aurisonics & there was more presence & clarity in the cymbals.

 

A/B'ing the two reminded of why some love the IE7 for its mids even over IE8. Warm & lush compared to Aurisonics relatively dryer sound.

 

With Aurisonics the track is comparatively lacking background atmosphere such as wind sounds (1.00) & the  faint distant echo singing  (1:16) (full album MP3 track@320kbps). Although they are there, they are a little fainter & not as engaging with EQU on/off. I noticed before & now it has been further confirmed with this track that the Aursonics are not particularly good at portraying small background nuances compared to both EPH100 & IE7*. IE7 will have to remain in collection as it seems it is still the king of classical for me.

 

I'm close to 100 hours burn on the Aurisonics & using UE tips.

 

 

It's been interesting comparing the IE7 against the Aurisonics in the classical genre. More food for thought.

 

Right now i'm reminded of the saying 'Old Is Gold'

 

 

 

ASG-1 EQU 29Mar12.jpg

 

 

* EDIT

 

Swapping tips to Meelec Long Single Flange has helped recover some background detail but still not on same level as IE7. Still more detail & ambiance with IE7.

On the positive side once the cymbals do come in (3.20 album ver EQU'd) the whole track gets busy with drums/violins/piano/cymbals & the Aurisonics hold it together rather nicely through to the calm at 4:50. In particular at 4.10 the cymbals become very busy & sound less diffused/blurred on the Aurisonics compared to IE7.

 

Need more listening time. Need better source. Need sleep.

 

GN


Edited by archy121 - 3/28/12 at 7:21pm
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Oh TD... what happened to you bro? :P

Congrats anyway biggrin.gif

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