Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Aurisonics Impressions and Reviews
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Aurisonics Impressions and Reviews - Page 130  

post #1936 of 2761

hmm.... is that true.... might be because I have been comparing them to the W1000X full size cans...

post #1937 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

 

Super.fi 3 is not really good enough to compare with top dynamic driver IEMs, as it severely lacks in dynamic range and extension and definition at the extremes of the spectrum. So it's OK. Perhaps it may be useful if you compare their midrange performance though, especially the tonality. I find Super.,fi 3 has a very natural midrange tone combined with great clarity putting a shame on most dynamics in this regard. Does the ASG-1 have a more natural tone? I am not interested in detail, just timbre - I know Super.fi 3 is not very detailed.


Yeh they are not comparable I agree. It just seemed you wanted an idea of what they are like and this is away i thought I could do it.

Alright ill try and fit in a lil a/b session for you before I sleep!


Edit: Grrr, i seem to have misplaced my super fis so I've gotta go hunt for them....
Edited by Swimsonny - 3/25/12 at 11:22am
post #1938 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

..In comparison, the Aurisonics ASG-1 can definitely hang with the giants all the way up to the highs.  Then they take a drop as their Achilles' Heal is met and they take a decently bad beating.  They are still an amazing IEM.  The filter, from what I've read so far (I'll confirm with Dale tomorrow when I send him a rough draft of my review), seems to lower the degree of the vocals and midrange in general.  I think this will create a better presence and body for the lows to be closer to the W4 presentation.  The highs may also become more present that will fix that problem as well. .


 

Thanks for great review.

 

Must say I'm surprised to learn that BA's can compete & even beat  a 15mm dynamic driver in the area of bass. I had written off BA's altogether as I love bass.

 

I'm absolutely loving the the bass coming out of the Aurisonics both in terms of quality & quantity. Makes me wonder what those BA's would be like to my ears. Drake's Take Care album was a really good album for me but with these things i can't get enough of it. Its like it has been remastered.  Highs are only slightly lacking for me as I'm no fan of strong highs but do appreciate some sparkle. EQU'ing is helping out a little in that area as well as taming the Mids. If the filter can help out in these two areas I will be an extremely happy man. I look forward to hearing  about your discussion with Dale.

 


Edited by archy121 - 3/25/12 at 12:32pm
post #1939 of 2761

Comparison of the midrange to the super fi 3 for pianist

 

I may have to say that the mids on the super fi 3 are more forward than the asg-1s, well the the mids are apart from the vocals which are way more forward and are very aggressive. The SF3s are defiantly not as smooth and they feel like the midrange is rough when comparing but that is an effect which gives a natural feel. However i would still say that the asg-1s have a more natural midrange as although they are both forward the asg-1s have forward vocals whereas the instruments are more in line with the other frequencies where as the whole midrange seems boosted on the SF3s. maybe its just mean but i find the SF3s mids very unrealistic because of this. For timbre the instruments are presented a lot better, more detailed and more textured. If you like/ Don't mind forward mids then i think you'll like these.

post #1940 of 2761
I have had these for over a week now and thought I was finally in a position to do some impressions but by doing the first proper comparing with my dba-02s and my super fi 3s it's totally changed how I see them......

They really do have a unique sound which is hard to grasp!
post #1941 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by archy121 View Post


 

Thanks for great review.

 

Must say I'm surprised to learn that BA's can compete & even beat  a 15mm dynamic driver in the area of bass. I had written off BA's altogether as I love bass.

 

I'm absolutely loving the the bass coming out of the Aurisonics both in terms of quality & quantity. Makes me wonder what those BA's would be like to my ears. Drake's Take Care album was a really good album for me but with these things i can't get enough of it. Its like it has been remastered.  Highs are only slightly lacking for me as I'm no fan of strong highs but do appreciate some sparkle. EQU'ing is helping out a little in that area as well as taming the Mids. If the filter can help out in these two areas I will be an extremely happy man. I look forward to hearing  about your discussion with Dale.

 


I think many people underestimated what BAs can do with lows...  You'd have to listen to the 232s to really take a look at what a BA can do to the low end.  It's truly magical entirely :)

 

By the way, what I wrote really isn't a review.  I'm working on that one today and will post a link to it here (I write for a different blog) when it's available to the public. 

 


Edited by tinyman392 - 3/25/12 at 12:56pm
post #1942 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

I have had these for over a week now and thought I was finally in a position to do some impressions but by doing the first proper comparing with my dba-02s and my super fi 3s it's totally changed how I see them......
They really do have a unique sound which is hard to grasp!


That's because they're not your typical iem. They were built to be used on stage by singers who may be in loud environments. I'll have the "audiophile" filters coming to me by next week, so I'll be able to comment on how they change the sound.

post #1943 of 2761

Do the universal and custom-fit models share the same sound signature? I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm hoping someone will help me out so I don't have to read all 130 pages. :)

post #1944 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

Comparison of the midrange to the super fi 3 for pianist

 

I may have to say that the mids on the super fi 3 are more forward than the asg-1s, well the the mids are apart from the vocals which are way more forward and are very aggressive. The SF3s are defiantly not as smooth and they feel like the midrange is rough when comparing but that is an effect which gives a natural feel. However i would still say that the asg-1s have a more natural midrange as although they are both forward the asg-1s have forward vocals whereas the instruments are more in line with the other frequencies where as the whole midrange seems boosted on the SF3s. maybe its just mean but i find the SF3s mids very unrealistic because of this. For timbre the instruments are presented a lot better, more detailed and more textured. If you like/ Don't mind forward mids then i think you'll like these.

 

Thank you for the comparison. Perhaps the roughness that you are hearing with Super.fi 3 is the lower/mid treble peak. The mids on Super.fi 3 are very smooth - no roughness there at all to my ears. I agree about the mids being unrealistically emphasized - that's because the bass and treble are lacking on these. If you take Super.fi 3 mids and add some some extension and especially, treble extension and remove that peak in the highs, the mids would sound quite natural, although not the most articulate and detailed. Timbre is very good on Super.fi 3 in my view, but I know what you mean - the lack of definition, natural extension and dynamics make the sound quite dull and flat overall. A lot depends on where you plug the Super.fi 3s into though. They are very low impedance and thus quite hard on the amp. The source must be able to handle low impedance 'phones with good stability and not many sources can. I also believe that adding some extra impedance to Super.fi 3 will make them sound noticeably better. Fit is also extremely important with these - they can sound a lot more dull than they should if you don't fit them properly in your ears. I used to think of Super.fi 3 as unbearably dull until I learned to get the seal correctly and then they sounded acceptably defined to me.

post #1945 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post



That's because they're not your typical iem. They were built to be used on stage by singers who may be in loud environments. I'll have the "audiophile" filters coming to me by next week, so I'll be able to comment on how they change the sound.

I understand their original purpose why this is but although of what they are made for they are still amazing earphones to listen too and I think the filter should hopefully improve on that and fingers crossed you can confirm that.

It's just when comparing I got confused as they contrast to the dba-02s in so many areas that I was not expecting....

I defiently need a day just of comparing to really tell you why this is though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Staal View Post

Do the universal and custom-fit models share the same sound signature? I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm hoping someone will help me out so I don't have to read all 130 pages. :)


I don't have the customs do I can not help but have a look on the first page as their is a bundle of link as well as check out the search filter at the top of the page!
post #1946 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post


I would say that I am getting a vacuum seal so maybe a a pressure build up? It's happened when sitting in the car actually but I did walk a while yesterday with then and get nothing bad.
The only I could describe what happening its a sort of low frequency pulsing while music is still playing....


Thats what I thought it was but since you were seated, and I'm going to guess the car stereo was off, then I don't know... Has it happened since?

 

I'm only asking this because it's stupidly happened to me. If it only happened in the car that one time, could it by any chance have been a car near you with a very high output sub? lol

 

 

@tinyman392

The bass comparison kind of surprised me also, at least in regard to the HF2. In what way did the HF2 have more bass quantity than the ASG-1?

 

My only BA has been the B2 (like the DBA-02) and while it was actually pretty punchy (from obviously fallible memory), the sheer weight of note and heft of impact was nowhere near what the ASG-1 can put out. It's like you can literally feel the size of the ASG-1 driver when the low end response calls for it.

post #1947 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

 

Thank you for the comparison. Perhaps the roughness that you are hearing with Super.fi 3 is the lower/mid treble peak. The mids on Super.fi 3 are very smooth - no roughness there at all to my ears. I agree about the mids being unrealistically emphasized - that's because the bass and treble are lacking on these. If you take Super.fi 3 mids and add some some extension and especially, treble extension and remove that peak in the highs, the mids would sound quite natural, although not the most articulate and detailed. Timbre is very good on Super.fi 3 in my view, but I know what you mean - the lack of definition, natural extension and dynamics make the sound quite dull and flat overall. A lot depends on where you plug the Super.fi 3s into though. They are very low impedance and thus quite hard on the amp. The source must be able to handle low impedance 'phones with good stability and not many sources can. I also believe that adding some extra impedance to Super.fi 3 will make them sound noticeably better. Fit is also extremely important with these - they can sound a lot more dull than they should if you don't fit them properly in your ears. I used to think of Super.fi 3 as unbearably dull until I learned to get the seal correctly and then they sounded acceptably defined to me.


Perhaps your are right with why I heard the roughness. I am not completley confident withy how I describe what I am hearing but I do my best! I do however agree with what your saying as these are my headphones I use to school (don't damage my best) and I use equ to add a few db to bass and treble and take I tiny bit off the mids. Just makes casual school listening a bit more pleasent even though you lose some of the best aspects of it.

This comparison was done fairly quickly and I will defiently look at doing a better one with maybe a better source variety. For this I used my iPhone 4 alone with a range of quality mp3 (256 to 320 Kbps). I will defiently look into what they sound like from my cowon j3 with flac as well as my iMac. So are you saying the wont respond well to amping as I have tried with them yet? As well as that and if I do amp then I will stick the airplane attenuator on to add a bit of impedance.
post #1948 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


Thats what I thought it was but since you were seated, and I'm going to guess the car stereo was off, then I don't know... Has it happened since?

 

I'm only asking this because it's stupidly happened to me. If it only happened in the car that one time, could it by any chance have been a car near you with a very high output sub? lol

 

 


No luckily it has not happened since! Yeh the car stereo was off and It was the feeling of another car. It was really hard to describe and it only happened in one one ear. It was if the earphone was making something in my ear vibrate?

I think that it may have been trapped water in my ear though? I swim a lot (18 hours a week, hense my head fi name) and of course I defiently don't wear in ears till way after my ears dry out I'm wondering that maybe deep in my ear water was trapped and these unsettled it, it the only thing I can think off?

Let's just hope it was a one off anyway!
post #1949 of 2761

.


Edited by shotgunshane - 4/2/12 at 11:24am
post #1950 of 2761
Quote:
Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

 

ASG-1 without and with filters

 

I thought it best to take my pre-filter impressions All in all I find the filters to be a significant improvement over the unfiltered version, even with the hit the treble takes.  Without the filters I would become fatigued from the ‘shouty’ mid and surround presentation.  Now I find I can listen to them for long periods of time without fatigue.  The filtered version of the ASG-1 definitely gives me reason to own these again.


Wow I really can not wait to purchase some of these filters. I think I'm gonna enjoy these even more. biggrin.gif shame that treble has to take a hit though....
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
This thread is locked  
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Aurisonics Impressions and Reviews