Aurisonics Impressions and Reviews - Page 129  

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed 

Here comes Music_4321, with his "very useful" comments on other people's comments.

I won't forget u commenting on me posting a lot for a "person that doesn't even have the ASG-1's"

Have u even ordered them at least? Or just love trolling on this thread, and many others?

You have no idea whether I'll be ordering the ASG-1s or not in the future.

I think I must have written 4-5 posts at most in this thread out of 1920 posts in this thread so far. If everyone who's posted in this thread posted as much as you have, this thread would already be 500-700 pages long already. You've also been posting A LOT on the Yamaha EPH-100 thread for quite a few weeks, and you do NOT own those IEMs, nor seem likely to order them. I do happen to own the Yamahas, and I have posted in that thread far, far, FAR less than you have.

Instead of calling me a troll, maybe you really should think about what real, useful contributions are about.

I won't engage with you any further as there's no use, and this thread is already far too long with far too MANY meaningless pots.

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Originally Posted by music_4321 

You have no idea whether I'll be ordering the ASG-1s or not in the future.

 

I think I must have written 4-5 posts at most in this thread out of 1920 posts in this thread so far. If everyone who's posted in this thread posted as much as you have, this thread would already be 500-700 pages long already. You've also been posting A LOT on the Yamaha EPH-100 thread for quite a few weeks, and you do NOT own those IEMs, nor seem likely to order them. I do happen to own the Yamahas, and I have posted in that thread far, far, FAR less than you have.

 

Instead of calling me a troll, maybe you really should think about what real, useful contributions are about.

I won't engage with you any further as there's no use, and this thread is already far too long with far too MANY meaningless pots.

 

insightful as always, and rude as always ;)

I try to help people to my best of my ability, giving people options, or something to talk/munch about.

Its good I actually DO contribute to the community, by posting user reviews, and discussing certain IEMs

Oh and your yamaha assumption is wrong ;)

Don't just assume

UGH! glurp! I just threw up in my mouth....again, lol,! 

oh..I agree with music_ 4321,

keeping comments relevant and on topic can be a challenge when there is an open forum availabe, that can be about whatever a persom wants, but it's all good, because that's how we learn, just look at some of my first posts, ggrr, glurp! I just did it again, where's the antacid? lol, but I am getting a little better at it, posting that is, 

so hang in there everybody, it takes ALL kinds, men sharpen men as steel sharpens steel, it's ALL good and ALL necessary, it just takes an open heart and an open mind, dear Heavenly Father, Amen!

How would these perform to say, classical music?

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Originally Posted by PhoenixClaw 

How would these perform to say, classical music?

These are great for classical...

OK, comparison time:

Phonak PFE232

• Bass: Quality-wise, I believe they are both at the same level bass-wise for different reasons.  The Phonak has this well-bodied bass with amazing presence and texture that creates a euphoric effect.  However, the Aurisonics has a body that is just large enough to create the presence that is needed.  Although you may not hear all of the bass all of the time, you do feel the bass at all times.  This is where I think everyone says there are a lot of random textures here and there that they have never heard before.  Both of these IEMs present the bass is a different, yet unique way that makes them both really at the same level for me.  Preference wise, I think many would lean towards the Phonak over the Aurisonics.
• Mids*: This is where the 232s have their weakenss, however, the midrange is the ASG-1s strength.  Both the Phonak and Aurisonics have great energy, detailing, and soundstage.  However, the Phonak definitely wins in terms of sound stage as the ASG-1s are more of a layering rather than a space sound stage to my ears.  The Aurisonics definitely have lots more energy over the Phonak.  The thing that the Aurisonics really wins at regarding midrange is the clarity in the midrange.  This is the determining factor in making the Aurisonics' mids better than the Phonak mids.
• Highs: This is a no competition round for the Phonak.  The Phonaks totally obliterate the Aurisonics in terms of highs.  The Aurisonics have one main problem with the highs, and one tiny one.  The tiny one being that it can have a partially metallic sibilance sound once in a blue moon.  The major one is that they can really find themselves in the backseat and just aren't present enough.  The 232s have that delicacy that I want in the highs, but also destroy the ASGs in terms of clarity, detailing and sparkle.

Westone 4R

• Bass: Again, quality-wise, they are at the same level.  The Westones bass presentation is similar to that of the 232.  They have a large body and a strong punch that is actually punchy.  The Aurisonics' bass is closer to that of the 4s than it is the 232s.  Both are extremely punchy with good impact.  The 4s bass body is much larger than the ASGs while the ASG has more accurate texture representation.  Again, the bass is really at the same level to my ears.
• Mids*: OK, this is also at the same level as well with comparisons to the ASGs.  Both of these IEMs provide great clarity, detail, and energy in totality.  The sound stage on the 4s is slightly better than that on the ASG though, but again, the 4s, like the 232s, can't even come close to touching the ASG-1s mid-range energy.  This is definitely the part of the Aurisonics that rules entirely.  Overall, I think it is a preference choice in terms of mids here.
• Highs: This is where the Westones take a step up on the Aurisonics.  Like I said, the ASG just doesn't have the presence in the highs, although overall good quality, the Westones have much better quality.  Although the 4s do have that same metallic sound that the Aurisonics gives at times, the sparkle, clarity, and detailing is miles ahead of the ASG-1s. 

Etymotic HF2

• Bass: OK, this will give a good clue on how much (quantity-wise) the ASGs have over the Etymotics.  The Etymotics have more quantity, but slightly less quality.  I have a little trouble with the bass presence of the Etymotics as they sound really anemic and bodyless.  The Aurisonics are a different story to my ears.  They sound like they actually have a nice body to them, no the body isn't too much, but it definitely isn't anemic.  In comparison, the Etymotic is a tall skinny dude while the Aurisonics is a shorter, well-build dude.  They both provide a decent impact, but the ASGs take it here as well.  Texture-wise, both do a great job at it.  The ASGs take it bass-wise.
• Mids*: Let's put this "shoutyness" into range.  The Etymotic is "shouty" according to the definitions I've read.  This is the main reason I haven't deducted for it as this property on the Etymotic is one that made me fall in love with its mids.  The ASG has this same property and I love it for the same reason.  It really gives both IEMs a great deal of clarity, detailing, and most of all, energy.  The sound-stage on both of these are on par, but the ASG is slightly wider (if that).  The main difference here is that the Etymotics do have good amount of focus on the instrumentals while the Aurisonics have slightly more focus on the vocals.  Either way, the decision is a preference on in my mind.
• Highs: Once again, Etymotic takes this one slightly.  Aurisonics' highs are really the Achilles' Heal of the the ASG-1s.  The Etymotics may be a tad much for most people, and slightly harsh, but the clarity, detailing and separation are just amazing.  The Aurisonics lacks in all three of these categories due to its recessed nature.  Both provide a good amount of sparkle, but again, Etymotic wins here as well. 

In comparison, the Aurisonics ASG-1 can definitely hang with the giants all the way up to the highs.  Then they take a drop as their Achilles' Heal is met and they take a decently bad beating.  They are still an amazing IEM.  The filter, from what I've read so far (I'll confirm with Dale tomorrow when I send him a rough draft of my review), seems to lower the degree of the vocals and midrange in general.  I think this will create a better presence and body for the lows to be closer to the W4 presentation.  The highs may also become more present that will fix that problem as well. 

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Originally Posted by tinyman392 


  The highs may also become more present that will fix that problem as well. 

Nice comparison although i do not have any of them headphones.

Maybe the addition of another driver may also focus more on the highs hopefully making them better (well we can at least hope). I agree with what you say about the highs as they do defiantly not live up to my dba-02!

Im also surprised how close you have put the etys to the asg-1 as their reps are significantly cheaper!

I think i may have to pick a pair up cheap.

I am interested in how these compare with Hifiman RE0, RE262 and RE272 in pure sound quality. I am quite sure already that they lose out the the treble department, especially to the RE272 as people here say the highs lack presence and clarity compared to good BAs, which Hifimans definitely do not. The mids and bass would be an interesting comparison though. Can larger drivers really produce higher quality bass? Hifimans are hard to beat in the bass, especially the RE2** line which perform exceptionally in this area offering superb definition, depth and detail in the low end with proper amount of presence. For mids, I personally tend prefer good single driver BAs like ER4 and UE600. I wonder if ASG-1 brings anything new to the table that previous dynamic IEMs did not.

The nay mutual headphones we have are the super fi 3s which i could do a lil comparison on but the sag-1s blow the super fi 3s clean so it may not give you the best idea. If you want though i could give it a go one night this week!

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Originally Posted by Swimsonny 

The nay mutual headphones we have are the super fi 3s which i could do a lil comparison on but the sag-1s blow the super fi 3s clean so it may not give you the best idea. If you want though i could give it a go one night this week!

Super.fi 3 is not really good enough to compare with top dynamic driver IEMs, as it severely lacks in dynamic range and extension and definition at the extremes of the spectrum. So it's OK. Perhaps it may be useful if you compare their midrange performance though, especially the tonality. I find Super.,fi 3 has a very natural midrange tone combined with great clarity putting a shame on most dynamics in this regard. Does the ASG-1 have a more natural tone? I am not interested in detail, just timbre - I know Super.fi 3 is not very detailed.

lol I saw Super Fi 3 and came in... I have a pair, too.. Only using thembecause both my MPTC and TF10 are out temporarily.. I find them to lack the clearity and detail...and mid is very laid back as well really doesn't fit my taste... but I'm out of choice..

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Originally Posted by e19650826 

lol I saw Super Fi 3 and came in... I have a pair, too.. Only using thembecause both my MPTC and TF10 are out temporarily.. I find them to lack the clearity and detail...and mid is very laid back as well really doesn't fit my taste... but I'm out of choice..

Super.fi 3 has a smooth, forward midrange. I wouldn't call it laid back, just very smooth but very present at the same time. Detail and definition is lacking, but clarity as in purity of sound is among the very best I ever heard. Now, maybe we should get back on track here and do some comparisons with ASG-1.