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Logged 30+ hours of burn-in now, and that low end is really blossoming. Needed some time to get my ears accustomed to the low end quantity (once again, FS Atrios user so very used to gigantic bass). Its really not as forward as the Atrios' low end, but its definitely there. As some folks have mentioned, it appears when called upon and makes it presence felt, but doesn't intrude. As an atrios user, this needs some getting used to. But I am happy to say that at this point I'd definitely not have any reservations using these onstage as a primary or backup IEM.

 

Shoutiness has diminished to just being strident. Ears get accustomed to it after a while, though I'm quite sure I'll still get a bit of a system shock when I use these at a 0700h soundcheck. Atrios have a bit more reserved sweetness to the mids and highs, which leads to less fatigue but I'm not sure if that's totally helpful in a stage monitoring situation. I was actually able to notice a mistake in Led Zep's "Good Times Bad Times" - Jimmy Page fumbles a guitar part in the left channel from 0:46 to 0:50. I must have heard this song countless times across different media (LP, cassette, CD, mp3) and different earphones, and I've never heard that mistake before. And I wasn't even paying attention. Remarkable. Now I cannot un-hear that mistake. d'oh!

 

Have been listening to a wide variety of music - alternative rock (Powderfinger, the Posies - yeah i'm going through the "P" bands in my iPod), folk (Nicholas Chim - local folkie and former bandmate, excellent stuff: http://nicholaschim.bandcamp.com), fusion jazz (Mike Stern, Alain Caron), hip hop (A Tribe Called Quest), some of my old live and demo recordings, and classic rock (Led Zep). Have yet to try out my classical tunes with these. So far, these IEMs manage all these genres with aplomb. These IEMs do acoustic guitars very well, a lot of presence and weight to notes. Bassy music (Alain Caron, Tribe Called Quest) is excellent. Not as much wallop as the Atrios, but the low end is definitely there, and I'm hearing extremely low end freqs that I don't remember hearing even with the Atrios. There is a lot of deliberate restraint in the low end, in that I'm hearing these fellas going really deep but not producing that deep low end in quantity unless called to do so. Plus, these IEMs play very well with EQ-ing - almost tempted to leave my EQ settings on permanently! Definitely going to crank the bass onstage via the Aviom system - but even with the Atrios I crank the bass onstage. Yes, I'm that much of a basshead. But I say this knowing that when I crank the bass, I'm going to get the kind of bass I enjoy and need for good feel and monitoring.

 

Looking forward to hitting the stage with these... though that's not going to happen for a few more months. :/

 

Quick update: just put the Tron soundtrack on - the Daft Punk one. I think that album pretty much demonstrates the deep and subtle low end that the ASG-1s are capable of. reinforces instrumentation and provides near-cinematic rumble when called upon. very nice.


Edited by kangcore - 3/14/12 at 9:08pm
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I want to like the ASGs so much but I just can't get my head around its sound signature. The ASGs are technically superior in comparison to the TF10s but for pure enjoyment... Give me treble sparkle!!! May be seeing another ASG-1 popping up on the For sale forums soon.

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Just an update, I had the opportunity to be one of the testers of the new filter they're working on to provide feedback. I just got mine back today with the filter and I am a happy camper.

 

I also heard the "shouty" mids like many and couldn't get used to it. I'm not a musician nor have ever been on stage so definitely not used to that kind of sound. The differences I heard today with the filter they're working on is very positive. The "shouty" mids were tamed but it's still forward in a good way. I also noticed it enhanced the bass and overall detail of the sound. It sounded kind of unnatural like the tone was off for me without the filter but now everything is much smoother and better. 

 

For those experiencing the "shouty" mids, this filter might be worth the wait instead of just giving up on the ASG-1. Just a heads up for those interested.

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Assuming that the ASG needs to be sent to Aurisonics for the filter installation triportsad.gif

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Assuming that the ASG needs to be sent to Aurisonics for the filter installation triportsad.gif


Actually no, they're working on the filter that the user can install. I just had the chance to be a tester to provide feedback on the filter. It's why I think it's worth the wait for those that experience the "shouty" mids.

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Assuming that the ASG needs to be sent to Aurisonics for the filter installation triportsad.gif


That shouldn't be necessary. AFAIK, the filters can be installed on your own.  

 

What tips are you using?  I found out that the ASG-1's shouldn't be fitted the same way as you would for other IEMs requiring a tight fit.  The ASG-1's should fit/stay in the proper position without a tight fitting tip, and the tip should be big enough just for it to give a decent seal.  

 

I'm using the small stock tips now, perhaps you might want to give those a try? It really helps with opening up the treble sparkly end ;)

 

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Yes tips play a big part in the sound. I'm currently using a MEElec extra long single flange tip that has a wide bore and it's working nicely.

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I'm using UE single flanges that came with my TF10s. No issues with fit or seal (bass is great anyway). The ASGs sound just doesn't agree with me. Not entirely sure if I want to invest the time and money for the filter.

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Originally Posted by -y0- View Post

Yes tips play a big part in the sound. I'm currently using a MEElec extra long single flange tip that has a wide bore and it's working nicely.


I did quite a bit of tip rolling and found that this set of tips was the best of the bunch, too.  I found they offer the most balanced sound of the plethora of tips I tried.  Also, a deeper fit with these seems to attenuate the 'shouty' midrange freq. spike.

 

Re: the filters, I tossed a pair of the RE0/RE262/RE252 filters a few days after getting the ASG.. and found it did exactly what -y0- described.  While the HFM filters are purported to be 'transparent' (which they were when applied to the RE0 & RE262, IME).. on the ASG, the mids remained forward while sounding more controlled with the midrange spike becoming noticeably tamed.  The filters also warmed up the lower midrange/upper bass, though (which I didn't care for).


Edited by FlySweep - 3/15/12 at 2:53am
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Originally Posted by -y0- View Post

Just an update, I had the opportunity to be one of the testers of the new filter they're working on to provide feedback. I just got mine back today with the filter and I am a happy camper.

 

I also heard the "shouty" mids like many and couldn't get used to it. I'm not a musician nor have ever been on stage so definitely not used to that kind of sound. The differences I heard today with the filter they're working on is very positive. The "shouty" mids were tamed but it's still forward in a good way. I also noticed it enhanced the bass and overall detail of the sound. It sounded kind of unnatural like the tone was off for me without the filter but now everything is much smoother and better. 

 

For those experiencing the "shouty" mids, this filter might be worth the wait instead of just giving up on the ASG-1. Just a heads up for those interested.


That's brilliant!
Could you provide pictures?

 



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Actually no, they're working on the filter that the user can install. I just had the chance to be a tester to provide feedback on the filter. It's why I think it's worth the wait for those that experience the "shouty" mids.


That's what I'll be doing - if I can't get hold of the sound sig - I'll wait, possibly even for the 2 driver version in months time.

These earphones can be re-sold...but its like one of those things that you think to yourself:
What if I had kept them?

I think some that sold theirs already are wondering how they sound with filters etc.

 

In other words, I'm really looking forward to my pair

 

 

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Originally Posted by -y0- View Post


Actually no, they're working on the filter that the user can install. I just had the chance to be a tester to provide feedback on the filter. It's why I think it's worth the wait for those that experience the "shouty" mids.



 

 

Oh thats great news as it would been a right pain having to send them back to the US for the filters. Do you have an idea of the price that they may be?
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Oh thats great news as it would been a right pain having to send them back to the US for the filters. Do you have an idea of the price that they may be?


No idea about the price but I can't imagine it being too much. I'd say that patience would pay off in this case or like Flysweep mentioned, you could try out the Hifiman filters and see if they work if you don't want to wait.

 



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That's brilliant!
Could you provide pictures?

 

 

 

 

Here's one below and I'd advise against just doing it yourself since I was told it's more than just shoving the material in the bore.

 

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Here's one below and I'd advise against just doing it yourself since I was told it's more than just shoving the material in the bore.

 

 

interesting - not your "normal" filter then?

I.e. PFE style?

 

I know you have customs...but do all the aurisonics share different cabling - I swear iv'e seen the asg-1's with different cabling.


Edited by Totally Dubbed - 3/15/12 at 3:35am
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I believe they all have the same cables but going to have upgraded ones in the future.

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I believe they all have the same cables but going to have upgraded ones in the future.

Ah cool - but I meant the internal wiring within the earphones.

 

And how would u compare the MDT's to the ASG-1's?

 

 

 

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