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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

....after hearing these and drawing comparisons to descriptions of the SM2 and SM3, I think the latter two will essentially serve the same purpose that the ASG-1s would fill for me in terms of listening styles, being that both are stage monitors and present their sound accordingly, even if perhaps not in exactly the same manner.....

 

 

 

 


I hope you find some SM3 at a good price for you. Always ask for filter state.

I know you are looking for a warmth iem with  natural treble and timbeMy first contact was not easy because of it. I relearning to hear a really full warmth signature and im liking it. bright signatures are more easy to eat at first contact.

 

post #1502 of 2761

Just pick this up for the ASG-1 today! 

 

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A Baldur mk2, LOL I must have about three of these cables lying about! One for my SE535ltd

 

and then this beast             -v- 

 

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A quad wired Baldur mk2, it's terminated for the 535 but ...may change that to a Westone/JH compatible!!tongue_smile.gif depending......

 

Supposedly the Baldur mk2 has very good synergy with the ASG-1 from an owner........Thanks Cute!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post


Thanks for the kind commentsbeerchug.gif!

 

I have my wife's blessing which is the most difficult hurdlebigsmile_face.gif, but she doesn't know that I have the Aurisoncs ASG-1 arriving, hopefully next week but confirmation as yet have not been received if they were shipped out today, the K3003 next month, then I have enquires made as to whether Fit Ear will sell their Universal outside of Japan by the shop who is poisoning me with the FAD Piano Forte X gold plated. And this is before I start embarking into Customsksc75smile.gif

 

She is getting suspicious and raising her eyebrows as to why I come home every other day with a new cableblink.gif

 

 

 



 


This post made me laugh!

Nice setup too, quite impressive!
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post


This post made me laugh!
Nice setup too, quite impressive!


Haha.........I am laughingksc75smile.gif

 

but wife...confused_face.gifhmmm when I came back today again with cables!!!!!! Yikesdeadhorse.gif

 

 

 

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Got a set incoming as well. Couldn't resist, too curious about these.

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finally got the right fit with the ASG.. Good Lord, I'm an idiot.  Didn't realize the bump in the ear mold (above the driver/facing the ear side) needs to sit below the ridge along the middle of my ear.  Being used to (true) customs simply snapping into place & reading about all the needed 'tip rolling',,I wasn't mindful of making sure the damn phones were inserted properly in the first place.  You live (in my case, 'hear') & learn.

 

When seated properly, these phones go fairly deep into the ear canal.  As I fought with the fit & fiddled with how/where they sat in my canal, the midrange was an absolute mess.  Seat them properly and they sound impressively clean & cohesive.  Before getting a good seat, the midrange was very warped, excessively shouty, and lacked any sense of coherence.  With the right fit.. the way the midrange 'reorganized' itself to my ears (like putting a puzzle together) made (most) everything sound 'right.'  I never took offense to the 'mid-forward' nature of these monitors.  I feel the claim that these are extremely mid forward is an exaggerated charge.  I judged these phone's sound based on their intended application: as stage monitors.  A slightly bumped up midrange (opposed to a spike at a particular frequency) seems par for the course when it comes to many such professional phones intended for mixing and for stage use.  As Dale (and other customs manufacturers) have said, artists & professionals requested this type of tuning.  

 

Now that I have the correct fit, I can really hear what they're supposed to sound like.. they're impressive.  The typical 'stage monitor' smoothness they possess does a nice job of off-setting the sterile feel that phones (such as the ASG) with 'dry texturing' tend to create.  The soundstage is indeed impressive.. on par with one of my faves, the Silver Bullet (which has a ridiculous soundstage).  Imaging is very good, not great.  Same goes for dynamic range (the smaller dynamic range probably helps keep the driver speed impressively fast, though).  I do hear the slightly 'funneled' nature of the soundstage & imaging that some others mentioned.. where the (spatial) areas to the center-left & center-right isn't as 'filled in' as the dead-center, far-left, & far-right (spatial) points.  I don't take great issue with it though.. cause the overall presentation is quite satisfying & enjoyable.

 

The 'shouty' midrange spike the ASG has possesses a certain hollowness & 'ring' that has me thinking it's a product of resonance from the housing/chamber (like shotgunshane mentioned).  Does resonance sound the same and/or is it uniformly amplified as the volume is turned up?  If not, it must be the tuning, no?  Either way.. I'd like to see/hear it get tamed.  Dale said the justification for the spike (?) is cause vocalists like to hear the phones/themselves that way.  From an accuracy standpoint, I'm not sure I see how it serves a long term purpose.  It's one thing to push up the midrange as a whole (as previously stated, is quite common in stage monitors).. but to spike a certain frequency range (so severely) does more harm than good (to my ears).

 

Aside from the that spike in the midrange, I really like these phones.  I have less than ten hours on the ASG though, so we'll see what happens as they burn in a bit.  At ~$200 (for HF members), I think they're a great value.  It certainly belongs along side the GR07, FXT, e-Q5, etc. as phones that offer some of the highest performance-per-dollar currently available.  Fit issues & the midrange spike (which might get resolved with a filter Dale is said to be developing) aside, anyone who likes/understands what 'stage monitors' sound like would appreciate these phones at the very least.

 

Did anyone confirm the stock cable isn't anything other than a generic (Westone-style) cable?  It looks an awful lot like the (plain) ones I got with my Quads & Miracle.


Edited by FlySweep - 3/11/12 at 3:54am
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finally got the right fit with the ASG.. Good Lord, I'm an idiot.  Didn't realize the bump in the ear mold (above the driver/facing the ear side) needs to sit below the ridge along the middle of my ear.  Being used to (true) customs simply snapping into place & reading about all the needed 'tip rolling',,I wasn't mindful of making sure the damn phones were inserted properly in the first place.  You live (in my case, 'hear') & learn.

 

When seated properly, these phones go fairly deep into the ear canal.  As I fought with the fit & fiddled with how/where they sat in my canal, the midrange was an absolute mess.  Seat them properly and they sound impressively clean & cohesive.  Before getting a good seat, the midrange was very warped, excessively shouty, and lacked any sense of coherence.  With the right fit.. the way the midrange 'reorganized' itself to my ears (like putting a puzzle together) made (most) everything sound 'right.'  I never took offense to the 'mid-forward' nature of these monitors.  I feel the claim that these are extremely mid forward is an exaggerated charge.  I judged these the ASG's sound based on their intended application environment: as stage monitors.  A slightly bumped up midrange (opposed to a spike at a particular frequency) seems 'par for the course' with professional phones intended for mixing and for stage use.  As Dale (and other customs manufacturers) have said, artists & professionals requested this type of tuning.

 

Now that I have the correct fit, I can really hear what they're supposed to sound like.. they're impressive.  The typical 'stage monitor' smoothness they possess does a nice job of off-setting the sterile feel that phones with 'dry texturing' (such as the ASG) tend to create.  The soundstage is indeed impressive.. on par with one of my faves, the FA Silver Bullet (which has a ridiculous soundstage).  Imaging is very good, not great.  Same goes for dynamic range (the smaller dynamic range probably helps keep the driver speed quite fast, though).  I do hear the slightly 'funneled' nature of the soundstage & imaging that some others owners have mentioned.  This is where the (spatial) areas to the center-left & center-right aren't as 'filled in' as the (dead) center, far-left, & far-right (spatial) points of the soundstage.  I don't take great issue with this, though.. cause the overall presentation is quite satisfying & enjoyable.

 

The midrange frequency spike that the ASG possesses (in the 1k range/area, I think) has a certain hollowness & 'ring' that has me thinking it's a product of resonance from the housing/chamber (like shotgunshane mentioned).  Does resonance sound the same and/or is it uniformly amplified as the volume is turned up?  If not, it must be the tuning, no?  Either way.. I'd like to see/hear it get tamed.  Dale said the justification for the spike (?) is cause vocalists like to hear the phones/themselves that way.  From an accuracy standpoint, I'm not sure I see how it serves a long term purpose.  It's one thing to push up the midrange as a whole (as previously stated, this is quite common in stage monitors) but to spike a certain frequency range (so severely) does more harm than good (to my ears).

 

Aside from the that spike in the midrange, I really like these phones.  I have less than ten hours on the ASG though, so we'll see what happens as they burn in a bit.  At ~$200 (for HF members), I think they're a great value.  It certainly belongs along side the GR07, FXT, e-Q5, etc. as phones that offer some of the highest performance-per-dollar currently available.  Fit issues & the midrange spike (which might get resolved with a filter Dale is said to be developing) aside, anyone who likes/understands what 'stage monitors' sound like would appreciate these phones at the very least.

 

Did anyone confirm the stock cable isn't anything other than a generic (Westone-style) cable?  It looks an awful lot like the (plain) ones I got with my Quads & Miracle.


Edited by FlySweep - 3/11/12 at 4:01am
post #1508 of 2761
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

finally got the right fit with the ASG.. Good Lord, I'm an idiot.  Didn't realize the bump in the ear mold (above the driver/facing the ear side) needs to sit below the ridge along the middle of my ear.  Being used to (true) customs simply snapping into place & reading about all the needed 'tip rolling',,I wasn't mindful of making sure the damn phones were inserted properly in the first place.  You live (in my case, 'hear') & learn.

 

When seated properly, these phones go fairly deep into the ear canal.  As I fought with the fit & fiddled with how/where they sat in my canal, the midrange was an absolute mess.  Seat them properly and they sound impressively clean & cohesive.  Before getting a good seat, the midrange was very warped, excessively shouty, and lacked any sense of coherence.  With the right fit.. the way the midrange 'reorganized' itself to my ears (like putting a puzzle together) made (most) everything sound 'right.'  I never took offense to the 'mid-forward' nature of these monitors.  I feel the claim that these are extremely mid forward is an exaggerated charge.  I judged these the ASG's sound based on their intended application environment: as stage monitors.  A slightly bumped up midrange (opposed to a spike at a particular frequency) seems 'par for the course' with professional phones intended for mixing and for stage use.  As Dale (and other customs manufacturers) have said, artists & professionals requested this type of tuning.

 

Now that I have the correct fit, I can really hear what they're supposed to sound like.. they're impressive.  The typical 'stage monitor' smoothness they possess does a nice job of off-setting the sterile feel that phones with 'dry texturing' (such as the ASG) tend to create.  The soundstage is indeed impressive.. on par with one of my faves, the FA Silver Bullet (which has a ridiculous soundstage).  Imaging is very good, not great.  Same goes for dynamic range (the smaller dynamic range probably helps keep the driver speed quite fast, though).  I do hear the slightly 'funneled' nature of the soundstage & imaging that some others owners have mentioned.  This is where the (spatial) areas to the center-left & center-right aren't as 'filled in' as the (dead) center, far-left, & far-right (spatial) points of the soundstage.  I don't take great issue with this, though.. cause the overall presentation is quite satisfying & enjoyable.

 

The midrange frequency spike that the ASG possesses (in the 1k range/area, I think) has a certain hollowness & 'ring' that has me thinking it's a product of resonance from the housing/chamber (like shotgunshane mentioned).  Does resonance sound the same and/or is it uniformly amplified as the volume is turned up?  If not, it must be the tuning, no?  Either way.. I'd like to see/hear it get tamed.  Dale said the justification for the spike (?) is cause vocalists like to hear the phones/themselves that way.  From an accuracy standpoint, I'm not sure I see how it serves a long term purpose.  It's one thing to push up the midrange as a whole (as previously stated, this is quite common in stage monitors) but to spike a certain frequency range (so severely) does more harm than good (to my ears).

 

Aside from the that spike in the midrange, I really like these phones.  I have less than ten hours on the ASG though, so we'll see what happens as they burn in a bit.  At ~$200 (for HF members), I think they're a great value.  It certainly belongs along side the GR07, FXT, e-Q5, etc. as phones that offer some of the highest performance-per-dollar currently available.  Fit issues & the midrange spike (which might get resolved with a filter Dale is said to be developing) aside, anyone who likes/understands what 'stage monitors' sound like would appreciate these phones at the very least.

 

Did anyone confirm the stock cable isn't anything other than a generic (Westone-style) cable?  It looks an awful lot like the (plain) ones I got with my Quads & Miracle.


Thanks, good impressions.

 

I call the cable "Westone style" because it doesn't have the exact same Y-split section (nor the Westone logo on that section, obviously). It appears very similar to the cables I got from Heir Audio - they both have a clear Y-splitter where you can actually see how the braided 4-strand cable breaks down from into separate left/right sides with 2 strands each. 

 

There are multiple OEM sources for these cables, and they are basically all interchangeable with just a few very minor differences. 

 

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What they claim about the midrange spike (IMO closer to 2k but we won't split hairs) is true: my girlfriend is a classically trained vocalist who just graduated from one of the most prestigious music colleges in the world, and she loved the sound of the ASG-1. When I told her how I hear them, she confirmed that she was hearing the same affect, but actually liked it; she called it "raw sounding," and compared them to the headphones she has used in upscale recording studios. She normally hates IEMs, but she said she would use the ASG-1 were it not too big for her ears. She is also a big fan of my modded Phiaton MS400, which also have a similar shouty affect at times ever since I removed the stock earpads and replaced them with pads that lack the mesh filter (definitely recommended for anyone who finds the presentation of their MS400 a little too soft-sounding/laid-back/not forward enough; this mod definitely improved clarity for me and also lets the dynamics come through a bit more).

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Heheheh. I actually had to lie once; when I purchased Klipsch x10 I told her that my reviews had been noticed by Klipsch on Head-Fi and that I was sent a pair for review cool.gif 
 

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Haha.........I am laughingksc75smile.gif

 

but wife...confused_face.gifhmmm when I came back today again with cables!!!!!! Yikesdeadhorse.gif

 

 

 



 

post #1511 of 2761
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

What they claim about the midrange spike (IMO closer to 2k but we won't split hairs) is true: my girlfriend is a classically trained vocalist who just graduated from one of the most prestigious music colleges in the world, and she loved the sound of the ASG-1. When I told her how I hear them, she confirmed that she was hearing the same affect, but actually liked it; she called it "raw sounding," and compared them to the headphones she has used in upscale recording studios. She normally hates IEMs, but she said she would use the ASG-1 were it not too big for her ears. She is also a big fan of my modded Phiaton MS400, which also have a similar shouty affect at times ever since I removed the stock earpads and replaced them with pads that lack the mesh filter (definitely recommended for anyone who finds the presentation of their MS400 a little too soft-sounding/laid-back/not forward enough; this mod definitely improved clarity for me and also lets the dynamics come through a bit more).



@Gilly87,  I use Parametric EQ with Fuze V2 Rockboxed, and jRiver Mediacenter 16 on my HP Notebook!  I EQ 1100 hz, Q= 3, Gain= -8 db, and the "shouty" upper mids are gone, sounds very good!  I asked Dale about that setting, and he said it was spot on with what the new filter that he has designed.  So, if you can EQ that filter will work, if not you need to wait for the filter that Dale has designed!

 

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She definitely didn't laugh when she saw me walking through the front door with these on tonight:-

 

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Definitely more deadhorse.gif when she will talk to meconfused_face_2.gif
 

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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Heheheh. I actually had to lie once; when I purchased Klipsch x10 I told her that my reviews had been noticed by Klipsch on Head-Fi and that I was sent a pair for review cool.gif 
 



 


 

 


Edited by spkrs01 - 3/11/12 at 8:22am
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Well unfortunately my ASG-1 are already sold. They were not my preferred sound signature to begin with; that said, I would have kept them on sheer technical ability, presentation, build quality, isolation, bass capabilities, full vocals...the list of positives goes on and on, but the shoutiness really did turn me off quite a bit personally, and I'm not really keen on EQing to be honest. I tried to like them, I really did, but it just wasn't happening.

 

Top it all off with my relative destitution compared to most fellow head-fiers :P and I really couldn't justify keeping them. I have a feeling I will wind up kicking myself when reviews from the filters and rumored dual driver upgrade come out, but who knows, maybe my income will be in a better place by that time :)

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Lmao. Those can't be the ASG-1, can they?

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Lmao. Those can't be the ASG-1, can they?



Look in my other thread     ---- v ----...dont wanna go off topic here....

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