I have a pair of AKG K601's and I've read here that they are hard to drive. I have two restored vintage receivers (Marantz 2250B and Pioneer SX-850) and a modern NAD C 740 receiver. The headphones sound incredible on all three receivers, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Would it be worth it for me to buy a dedicated headphone amplifier? If so, why?
Be a part of the community.
It's free, join today!
Related Forum Threads
- First good headphones? Last post on 12/15/11 at 11:21am in Headphones (full-size)
- Using Studio Equipment for Powering Headphones Last post on 9/17/11 at 1:47am in Headphone Amps (full-size)
- New but have Questions. Last post on 8/24/11 at 8:37pm in Headphones (full-size)
- Technics SU-Z400 Last post on 8/10/11 at 9:23am in Headphone Amps (full-size)
- Best USB DAC/Amps for around $200? Last post on 7/29/11 at 11:19pm in Portable Headphone Amps
Related Articles
-
Headphone Impedance
Edited on 12/9/11 | Contribute to this Article
-
Grado Modification Overview
Edited on 9/27/11 | Contribute to this Article
-
Buying Guide Headphones By Price Range
Edited on 3/24/12 | Contribute to this Article
-
A Hopefully Helpful Headphone Buying Guide For Newbies By Boomana
Edited on 5/7/10 | Contribute to this Article
Recent Reviews
-
Even better than UM3XRC, Best Headphone I audited so far
-
Wasn't sure what to expect out of the box because of all the mixed reviews. By mixed you would see 9 that love and totally swear by Ultrasone but then there was always one troll hating on em and...
-
This is a review of a pair of free IEM's I recieved from DUNU as part of a give away contest they recently held here on Head-fi. When I recieved my package the first thing I notices was...
-
Best closed headphones I had heard - very flat response, almost no midrange distortion, very easy to drive (good for portable), good soundstage (definately better than K240), good isolation, but...
-
Overall excellent buds, very good sound quality, especially for their price, the medium set of tips fits exactly in my ears and provides a near perfect seal. Bass is very detailed, but not...
Head-Fi Sponsors
Does a vintage receiver cut it as a headphone amplifier?
- Raser
- Trader Feedback: 0
-
- offline
- 75 Posts. Joined 8/2011
- Location: Finland
- Select All Posts By This User
If you think they sound good enough, why change? Biggest factor in hifi is our own mind.
But if you think your missing something, bass, soundstage etc, then it is a different matter.
- Chris J
- Trader Feedback: 0
-
- offline
- 1,237 Posts. Joined 8/2011
- Location: Darkness On The Edge Of Town
- Select All Posts By This User
Biggest problem with vintage receivers is the headphone jack usually has a very high output impedance.
Meaning:
- You usually get tighter bass from a very low output impedance headphone amp.
- Sometimes I use the headphone jack on my Bryston 2B-LP, the bass gets very boomy when I do this
In addition, a high output impedance can interact with the headphone impedance and give you some undesirable frequency response alterations.
- maverickronin
- Trader Feedback: +11
-
- online
- 6,434 Posts. Joined 4/2010
- Location: Midwest, USA
- Select All Posts By This User

Biggest problem with vintage receivers is the headphone jack usually has a very high output impedance.
Meaning:
- You usually get tighter bass from a very low output impedance headphone amp.
- Sometimes I use the headphone jack on my Bryston 2B-LP, the bass gets very boomy when I do this
In addition, a high output impedance can interact with the headphone impedance and give you some undesirable frequency response alterations.
That's usually the biggest problem you'll have with a vintage receiver. The K601s don't have large impedance swings so the biggest problem you're likely to have with them is boomy bass from the poor damping factor.
So what would you guys recommend for these headphones? It would have to be a definitely jump up in quality from my receivers and I'd like it to also be versatile enough to be used when I upgrade. My budget is no more than $300.
- maverickronin
- Trader Feedback: +11
-
- online
- 6,434 Posts. Joined 4/2010
- Location: Midwest, USA
- Select All Posts By This User
If you're already happy with what you've got you might not find an upgrade worth the money if you only use the K601s. If you want something that's more versatile for future headphones the Objective2 might be a good choice. I've seen other people who like it with K601s and it has low enough noise and output impedance to work fine with even with sensitive IEMs.
I actually have a pair of 601s coming in tomorrow so I'll get to see how well they wor together.
Ahh. Yes, please post your opinions. I'd be interested in hearing which amplifier you think sounds best with your new headphones.
- maverickronin
- Trader Feedback: +11
-
- online
- 6,434 Posts. Joined 4/2010
- Location: Midwest, USA
- Select All Posts By This User
I'm expecting the Objective2 to be the best since I've come to prefer a nice clean sound (you can Google for its measurements if you're interested) but I've got a few other amps I can try it with too.
Any updates?
I did a big shoot out with all my stereo receivers. I preferred the Pioneer SX-850 and then the NAD C 740. The Marantz just sucked. I was disappointed. I have more money in the rebuild of this amplifier and I think it looks awesome. It's definitely not going to be used for this application.
I'd love to try a nice headphone amp with these. What do you guys think of the Little Dot tube amps for the K601?
- hodgjy
- Trader Feedback: +1
-
- online
- 2,142 Posts. Joined 1/2010
- Location: Savannah, Georgia
- Select All Posts By This User
This question gets asked here a lot. To cut to the chase, receivers can, and do, make great headphone amps. Many of the vintage offerings are better than some of the new dedicated amps. But, the bottom line is what YOU think. If you like the sound, stay with it. If not, research an amp that might meet your voicing preferences.

I have a pair of AKG K601's and I've read here that they are hard to drive. I have two restored vintage receivers (Marantz 2250B and Pioneer SX-850) and a modern NAD C 740 receiver. The headphones sound incredible on all three receivers, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Would it be worth it for me to buy a dedicated headphone amplifier? If so, why?
- RexAeterna
- Trader Feedback: +2
-
- offline
- 2,282 Posts. Joined 7/2010
- Location: Riverside,NJ
- Select All Posts By This User
- maverickronin
- Trader Feedback: +11
-
- online
- 6,434 Posts. Joined 4/2010
- Location: Midwest, USA
- Select All Posts By This User
I've found that they haven't been that hard to drive. They're a bit inefficient compared to most things on the market but they sound nice out of different amps. My Cowon D2 does pretty good by itself, though I prefer my XM6 in between for the crossfeed.
If you're happy with what you've got you probably don't need something else unless you get another headphone that's more efficient or sensitive to output impedance.
- Chris J
- Trader Feedback: 0
-
- offline
- 1,237 Posts. Joined 8/2011
- Location: Darkness On The Edge Of Town
- Select All Posts By This User

This question gets asked here a lot. To cut to the chase, receivers can, and do, make great headphone amps. Many of the vintage offerings are better than some of the new dedicated amps. But, the bottom line is what YOU think. If you like the sound, stay with it. If not, research an amp that might meet your voicing preferences.
After much careful consideration and analysis (actually not possible, I only have two, maybe three brain cells, LOL!):
Dedicated Headphone amps can be made much smaller than a vintage receiver
A new headphone amp comes with a warranty (it had better!)
A new head amp should also be a lot more reliable than an old, vintage receiver.
OTOH, that vintage Yamaha receiver that Rawrbington bought looks, well, AWESOME!
Yes but in likelihood it would be a vintage receiver. I have a Marantz receiver that I got from eBay and it is a 1971 built model and the headphone jack is great. However, I 've had a couple receivers from other reputable brands built in the 1980s and the headphone jacks sounded veiled.
- Does a vintage receiver cut it as a headphone amplifier?
Gear mentioned in this thread:
Recent Discussions
- › Comply Foam Tips Appreciation Thread 2 minutes ago
- › Show us your Head-Fi station at it's current state. No old... 3 minutes ago
- › Concise Multi-IEM Comparison (TDK EB950, BA100, BA200 added, June... 3 minutes ago
- › Lets Talk Metal 4 minutes ago
- › Beyerdynamic T90 :D 4 minutes ago
- › Official NYC Meet Sat June 2nd 2012 4 minutes ago
- › Headphone CSD waterfall plots 4 minutes ago
- › The discovery thread. NEW!! The JVC HA-FX40. Page 83...JVC... 4 minutes ago
- › KOSS IL100/200 KTC Impressions thread 4 minutes ago
- › Burson HA-160D or Eximus DP-1 5 minutes ago
Recent Reviews
- › Shure SRH1840 Professional Open Back Headphones (Black) by jackrabbitslim0
- › Ultrasone HFI-780 S-Logic Surround Sound Professional Headphones by DemonFox
- › Dunu DN-18 Hawkeye by dweaver
- › AKG K 270 Studio by AmarokCZ
- › Sennheiser CX 870 ear canal phones by AndrewHume1
- › AKG K141 (Silver) by Captain Magenta
- › Skullcandy 50/50 - Headset ( in-ear ear-bud ) - white, chrome by shimrra
- › Sennheiser HD 449 Headphones Black by kstuart
- › Aiaiai TMA-1 by DE Nefta
- › TEAC PD-H600 Reference 600 Series CD Player by gonkulator
New Articles
- › iBasso DX100 FAQ by DoctorHeadz
- › DIY Cable Info and Resources by Pingupenguins
- › Asr Head-Fi Threads Compendium by Asr
- › Headphone Buying Guide by keanex
- › Fostex T50RP modification summary LINKS - wiki by jgray91
- › Comparisons of the LCD-3 and the LCD-2 Rev. 2 by MacedonianHero
- › Posting Guidelines by Currawong
- › Comparisons of LCD-2 Rev. 1 and Rev. 2 by MacedonianHero
- › Membership Levels, Badges and Custom Titles by Currawong
- › Sennheiser Hd4 8 Modding For Newbies by koolkat
About Head-Fi.org | Join the Community | Advertise
© 2012 Head-Fi.org is powered by Huddler Tech | FAQ | Support | Privacy/TOS | Site Map








