Is it true? A question to everybody on head-fi. - Page 2

The main problem about Inears and Earbuds is the fact that their tiny systems start distorting at much higher volumes than the systems of bigger HPs. That brings trouble, because the human brain couples loudness with distortions, which makes you cranking up the volume much more than usually.

That is at least roughly what we got explained at a Sennheiser factory visit a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor 

People are stupid. They turn it up. People will be deafened with iems vs headphones.

 

 

listening to m50s full blast right now and i don't give a SH1T if it screws my hearing it's to much fun.

Live fast, die young much?

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Originally Posted by christophrowley 

Live fast, die young much?

Right on the trigger. If i die at 45 i don't care.

Haha you will when you are 44!  We'll pool our $ and send you a big ear horn made from one of the first RCA VICTOR consoles. I can deliver in person hahaha.

Seriously though it's tough to do when the music sounds so good, but I always take it up to just under too much then dial it back. Good source and good cans should allow me the detail I want at reasonable levels, if not then I won't end up using them much, and I figure I should be looking elsewhere.

 Personally I like the -neutral-ortho/stat sound but I can understand how someone with a bass heavy appreciation could want to crank it until their internal organs are prone to liquefaction. As you get older the deflecting semiconducting effect of youth tends to lessen and you have to be a bit more careful to ensure QUALITY of life.

I believe so, I won't ever use IEMs again just because of that.  I had ringing in my ears from IEMs and I was using them at very low levels.  I believe our ears are designed a certain way and the sound has to pass through for a reason instead of just blasting the ear drums directly.  That's just me.  Closed circumaural for me is best.  Provides the isolation, sounds way better than an IEM and my ears don't ring.

Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor 
People are stupid.

Oh?

Originally Posted by bcasey25raptor 
listening to m50s full blast right now and i don't give a SH1T if it screws my hearing it's to much fun.

Ah.

I thought the M50s were unlistenable. http://www.head-fi.org/t/529104/studio-worthy-headphones-of-up-to-200-update-i-got-the-ath-m50s-i-hate-them-why-thoughts/30#post_7984148

Anyway, I don't enjoy loud music and I listen in the 60-65 dB range max. Sometimes I listen more in the 55-60 range. I do enjoy isolation, which is why I want to try out some ER-4Ps with the S adapter. I figure I can listen at very low volume and still get a nice level of background silence.

Originally Posted by TMRaven 

You'd want to worry more about the small hairs that are in your canal, anyways.  Those are very fragile.

I'm aware of the function of these hairs. Are you saying that the mere act of putting something in the ear can damage hearing because it damages the tiny hairs?

In other words, wearing passive earplugs (say, for motorcycle commuting) actually mechanically damages hearing rather than sonically?

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Originally Posted by Nepenthe 

Oh?

Ah.

 

I thought the M50s were unlistenable. http://www.head-fi.org/t/529104/studio-worthy-headphones-of-up-to-200-update-i-got-the-ath-m50s-i-hate-them-why-thoughts/30#post_7984148

 

Anyway, I don't enjoy loud music and I listen in the 60-65 dB range max. Sometimes I listen more in the 55-60 range. I do enjoy isolation, which is why I want to try out some ER-4Ps with the S adapter. I figure I can listen at very low volume and still get a nice level of background silence.

They grew on me.

The only time I worry about hearing damage is when I have an extended listen with my XB500s.  The bass makes my ears ring for a while after I take them.  Thank god I for my guilty sporadic pleasures (also highly dependent if I'm in a hip-hop/dance/electronic mood.)

Otherwise out of my collection, I'd say my IEMs are least damaging.  This may or may not have to do with Phonaks being a bit stingy with amplification (they're probably best served with an external amp rather than my iPhone).

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Originally Posted by Nepenthe 

I'm aware of the function of these hairs. Are you saying that the mere act of putting something in the ear can damage hearing because it damages the tiny hairs?

 

In other words, wearing passive earplugs (say, for motorcycle commuting) actually mechanically damages hearing rather than sonically?

The hair cells that translate the sound into electrical signals are located behind the eardrum, in the cochlea. You won't damage your hearing just by putting something into your ear canal.  There are certainly hairs in your canal, but those are different from the hairs that matter here 

Originally Posted by Aizura 
The hair cells that translate the sound into electrical signals are located behind the eardrum, in the cochlea. You won't damage your hearing just by putting something into your ear canal.  There are certainly hairs in your canal, but those are different from the hairs that matter here 

Whew! Thanks!

I wear earplugs every day on my two-wheeled commute (they cut the wind sound from the 95-105 dB range to the 70-75 dB range). Good to know.

I think, that is not true, because every headphones can damage your ears on high level sound. But researches of this problem could make a mistake, associated with some differences between tradition of using in-ear and on-ear types. In-ear earphones usually used by young people, who listen music outdoor. On-ear headphones more popular between adult people, who listen music at home. It is clear, that outdoor you must raise the level of volume. So, that is why some people think, that hearing damage is more often between users of in-ear headphones, I think.

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Originally Posted by Nepenthe 

I'm aware of the function of these hairs. Are you saying that the mere act of putting something in the ear can damage hearing because it damages the tiny hairs?

 

In other words, wearing passive earplugs (say, for motorcycle commuting) actually mechanically damages hearing rather than sonically?

No, most certainly not!

Stupid people will lose hearing first, no matter what they're using

Why do you think so? My grandpa was wery stupid, but he heard everything.