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post #316 of 708
Damm they look nice...
post #317 of 708

My UERM (3 years old) vs NT-6 (1 day old) played through Audioquest Dragonfly. All basic WAV files 44.1 / 16.

 

Comparsion music, mostly chosen by the best mastering engineers in particular age / music style:

Earth Wind & Fire, Michael Jackson, Bee Gees, ABBA (70’s, 80’s)

DJ Bobo, 2 Unlimited, Jamiroquai, Massive Attack, M-People (1990-2000)

Bassement Jaxx, Backstreet Boys, George Michael, Robbie Williams, Madonna (2000-2010)

Martin Garrix, Bassjackers, Nicky Romero (EDM 2013/2014) - those EDM songs has completely different dynamic range than any produced songs from last decades, so they reveal the capability of any CIEMS immediately.

 

HIGHS:

Someone says UERM has harsh (sharp?) highs, but in my opinion, they just extends little bit further than most of headphones on the market. NT-6 has very clean, balanced and extended highs, unfortunately UERM wins there. But you need to A/B them a lot, to hear this difference.

 

MIDS:

Same to me as UERM.

 

BASS:

Because of the tighter fit, better isolation and longer canals - NT6 produce somehow noticeable higher acoustic pressure inside your head. Bass extension and bass amount feels very much the same as my UERM. But from NT6 I can ‘feel’ it, instead from UERM where I just hear it. (Underline: Someone says UERM are bass light, but it is not true at all - if the song has the strong bass, UERM can play it for 100%. Unfortunately lot of producers are not able to do the right mastering.

 

Overall I guess both CIEMs are the best possible reference monitors on a market and they sits side by side on the throne. Can’t say which one is better. Sound signature is pretty much the same - linear / revealing / reference.

post #318 of 708

Thanks for sharing. This is quite different from AJ's comparison between UERM and NT6. maybe it's the source.

 

Give it a bit more time. I am sure you will be satisfied once the NT6 and your brain is burned in ;)

post #319 of 708

Sure, they have just a few hours of burn in time, so I guess it needs more time definitely.. But I'm really happy anyway! :) Also this is the 2014/May production piece, maybe AJ's was somehow different that time when produced (2012/June).

post #320 of 708
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Sure, they have just a few hours of burn in time, so I guess it needs more time definitely.. But I'm really happy anyway! :) Also this is the 2014/May production piece, maybe AJ's was somehow different that time when produced (2012/June).

Indeed, I don't understand why CIEM companies always make changes on sound of their products.

post #321 of 708
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Originally Posted by John Culter View Post
 

My UERM (3 years old) vs NT-6 (1 day old) played through Audioquest Dragonfly. All basic WAV files 44.1 / 16.

 

Hi John, thanks for the impressions. IMO, the dragonfly is not a great source to test out how detailed a phone is.  From my experience Dragonfly smooths out the details, so it's hard to know which phone is more detailed.  

 

I recommend you test with your most transparent source.

post #322 of 708
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Hi John, thanks for the impressions. IMO, the dragonfly is not a great source to test out how detailed a phone is.  From my experience Dragonfly smooths out the details, so it's hard to know which phone is more detailed.  

 

I recommend you test with your most transparent source.

 

Although that doesn't make his impressions any less valid. The source was the same with both CIEMs.

 

@John - Appreciate the impressions, thanks.

post #323 of 708
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Although that doesn't make his impressions any less valid. The source was the same with both CIEMs.

 

@John - Appreciate the impressions, thanks.

Why I think the source's capability to provide details for comparisons is important is, if the details are limited you cannot know how far the detail capabilities of a CIEM because of the source's limitations.  With a better source, you can notice which really provide what the source is feeding in terms of details I would Imagine as DragonFly's treble is smoothed out.  Think of cymbal detail variations, vocal textures, horn textures, and etc..

 

With CIEMs at this level, better source is warranted for accurate impressions.


Edited by SilverEars - 5/28/14 at 3:08am
post #324 of 708
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Why I think the source's capability to provide details for comparisons is important is, if the details are limited you cannot know how far the detail capabilities of a CIEM because of the source's limitations.  With a better source, you can notice which really provide what the source is feeding in terms of details I would Imagine as DragonFly's treble is smoothed out.  Think of cymbal detail variations, vocal textures, horn textures, and etc..

 

With CIEMs at this level, better source is warranted for accurate impressions.

You are definitely right, the source could be the weakest point in this case. But the reason of having those 'reference monitors' for me is the ability of sound mastering and the music production work on the go, during travel and in the places outside home / or studio. For this purpose Dragonfly serves very good as small usb thumb sized device. To carry some bigger rig with dac / amp is nonsense in this case. Otherwise I could stay at my studio listening to reference speakers in a well treated room without any need of a headphones at all :)

 

So the ability of work on the go with the Macbook Pro, tiny DAC and those CIEMs is a crucial for me. Anyway I believe better amp / dac could deliver better results, to hear the deeper difference between both products.

post #325 of 708

Thanks for your initial impressions as it gives us an idea of how the UERM stacks up with NT-6.  I did think the UERM sounded superb to my ears, and the graph is pretty good also as it's pretty linear like the NT-6.  

 

Hopefully, mine will be done soon so I can let you guys know how well these fare.  

post #326 of 708

So we are sure that NT6 has revisions? The latest graph I saw in this thread is simply awesome. The ones who want to achieve reference sound should definitely go for it I think.

 

Man, I wish I had connections in South Korea :frown:

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Man, I wish I had connections in South Korea :frown:

lol

post #328 of 708
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So we are sure that NT6 has revisions? The latest graph I saw in this thread is simply awesome. The ones who want to achieve reference sound should definitely go for it I think.

 

Man, I wish I had connections in South Korea :frown:

Why, they deliver world wide, even to John in Czech.  I wish I can get a hold of SE5, consider yourself a lucky European biatch.  :evil: I'm fat stinky American that has to resort to JHA and McDonald's  :ph34r: Oh yeah, UE is here too with Westone, and Noble... Hmmm I guess we got other burger joints too.  :D


Edited by SilverEars - 5/28/14 at 4:22am
post #329 of 708
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

So we are sure that NT6 has revisions? The latest graph I saw in this thread is simply awesome. The ones who want to achieve reference sound should definitely go for it I think.

 

Man, I wish I had connections in South Korea :frown:

+ 1

 

Btw you don't need any connections, just a huge patience when going through their website :))

post #330 of 708
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Why, they deliver world wide, even to John in Czech.  I wish I can get a hold of SE5, consider yourself a lucky European biatch.  :evil: I'm fat stinky American that has to resort to JHA and McDonald's  :ph34r: Oh yeah, UE is here too with Westone, and Noble... Hmmm I guess we got other burger joints too.  :D

Yeahh.. SE5 are my next target - luckily they are made in Poland, so I guess it is like 3 hours by car from my home - will try to visit the manufacturer in person :))

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